Peterborough North

[great northern]

Rob,

 

The WD would not usually derail if passing through the points when they are set against it.  Instead, the stretcher bars would be broken, the point rodding and the lever in the signalbox would vibrate, (rather alarmingly) and the S&T would be cursing the Bobby for extra work they would be having to carryout afterwards. 

 

As for the Signalman and the Driver, they would have been asked to write reports on how the train managed to smash the points.  The Signalman cannot clear the Signal in rear of the points, due to Interlocking, (No idea if you have any Gilbert?), so did the Driver of the WD fail to stop?

 

Those who know me, are aware of my Fulltime employment.

 

Paul 4475

No interlocking Paul, too complicated for me to cope with. This area often makes people think the road is set agianst the loco, but actually there was no problem, and the WD was able to trundle on until it could get onto the Up slow on the other side of Crescent Bridge.

[Flying Fox 34F]

I figured that Interlocking would be too much. It can be interesting trying to work it out.

As for your tandem point in the photo, it does look like the switch rail is set for a move over the main to main crossover.

Any chance of another photo with a locomotive sat slightly further back?

 

Paul 4475

[great northern]

I figured that Interlocking would be too much. It can be interesting trying to work it out.

As for your tandem point in the photo, it does look like the switch rail is set for a move over the main to main crossover.

Any chance of another photo with a locomotive sat slightly further back?

 

Paul 4475

I'll do that tomorrow Paul, and I'll also do a shot with the tandem set the other way, to show the difference.

[great northern]

I'll do that tomorrow Paul, and I'll also do a shot with the tandem set the other way, to show the difference.

It occurs to me that I can show this now.

The real thing, from a slightly different angle. The tandem is set for the B1 on the right, which I presume has reversed from the Up main. Deltic, and annoyed driver, held at signals. Photo copy right of Andrew C ingram.

[Clearwater]

It occurs to me that I can show this now.

tandem.jpg

The real thing, from a slightly different angle. The tandem is set for the B1 on the right, which I presume has reversed from the Up main. Deltic, and annoyed driver, held at signals. Photo copy right of Andrew C ingram.

But happy trainspotters - did they bribe the signal man to ensure they got a deltic start up right next to them?

 

David

[Flood]

Sorry to say Gilbert but on your photo of the WD the tandem is set for the left hand road not the middle one.

[great northern]

Sorry to say Gilbert but on your photo of the WD the tandem is set for the left hand road not the middle one.

This fools so many people. In my shot, the WD is sitting over the second part of the tandem, and obscuring its setting. If you look at the prototype shot in post 10304, both parts can be seen. In that image, the first part, at bottom centre of the picture, is set for the left hand road, but the second part, at the end of the platform, is set straight, not for the crossover, so when the first part is changed, Deltic has a clear road. I will take some more photos in the morning to try to clear this up once and for all.

[great northern]

And now, I think, time for another photo, hopefully less contentious.

Another shot for the coach fans.

This is a shot I've returned to many times, but far less since those broken columns were put in, and obscured the view. On reflection though, I still think it makes a nice image, so here it is.

[Flood]

This fools so many people. In my shot, the WD is sitting over the second part of the tandem, and obscuring its setting. If you look at the prototype shot in post 10304, both parts can be seen. In that image, the first part, at bottom centre of the picture, is set for the left hand road, but the second part, at the end of the platform, is set straight, not for the crossover, so when the first part is changed, Deltic has a clear road. I will take some more photos in the morning to try to clear this up once and for all.

In the image in post 10304 I would say that the first part of the point is set for the right hand road but I agree the first part is not set for the middle road.

 

In the WD image the first part is set for the middle road (correct for the WD) but the second part isn't.

 

[great northern]

I am feeling deprived. Deprived of some pages of the thread, deprived of water - we have a burst main apparently - and as often happens deprived of light for photography. Rather aimlessly pointing the camera, and muttering, I suddenly had one of those "what would happen if..." thoughts. Here is the result, if it will post.

Heavy cropping again, and I rather like the view through the overall roof. And I shopped just about every gap in the beast.

[great northern]

In the image in post 10304 I would say that the first part of the point is set for the right hand road but I agree the first part is not set for the middle road.

 

In the WD image the first part is set for the middle road (correct for the WD) but the second part isn't.

 

WD.jpg

Sorry Graham, I've been getting confused again. I thought we were talking about the first part of the tandem, which is the one that normally confuses people. The second part does look to be set for the crossover, as you rightly point out. That leaves just one more conundrum. After taking these photos I drove the WD on through the station, and back into the fiddle yard. With the crossover set against it, I should not have been able to do that, as I would have got a short circuit, which I don't remember happening. All very strange.

[great northern]

I'm getting totally disorientated, what with turning taps on and nothing coming out, and images on here which keep coming and going. Here is another shot of Sir Murrough Wilson, now standing at the end of Platform 2, waiting for the off. I don't think you've seen this one, but if you have, apologies.

[The Blue Streak]

Gilbert, It seems the missing / Reappearing / Missing again photo's and posts are gradually coming back.

Andy Y is on to it with the Boffins.

[Market65]

That photo showing the station from the south end, looking through the overall roof is stunning. It reminds me of a photo in an old Trains Illustrated magazine. Very nostalgic.

 

With warm regards,

 

Rob.

[great northern]

Fifteen hours without water now, and the estimated time for it to come back on just keeps getting put back. And so to bed without a shower all day, and not even able to brush my teeth. We shall have another picture anyway.

The 1230pm KX- Newcastle heads North behind a Grantham A3, while a K3 is held at signals with a Colwick- KX Goods Class F. There was a very tight margin between this goods train and the preceding Up Newcastle, which had stopped at Platform 2, so I reckon this happened quite often. I doubt the goods would have been sent round the Up slow and allowed to cross in front of the express. Photos of what is behind the tenders of both locos to follow tomorrow.

 

AND, I have water.

[St Enodoc]

Fifteen hours without water now, and the estimated time for it to come back on just keeps getting put back. And so to bed without a shower all day, and not even able to brush my teeth. We shall have another picture anyway.

A3 and K3 1.jpg

The 1230pm KX- Newcastle heads North behind a Grantham A3, while a K3 is held at signals with a Colwick- KX Goods Class F. There was a very tight margin between this goods train and the preceding Up Newcastle, which had stopped at Platform 2, so I reckon this happened quite often. I doubt the goods would have been sent round the Up slow and allowed to cross in front of the express. Photos of what is behind the tenders of both locos to follow tomorrow.

 

AND, I have water.

You could brush your teeth with gin...

[gresley]

Fifteen hours without water now, and the estimated time for it to come back on just keeps getting put back. And so to bed without a shower all day, and not even able to brush my teeth. We shall have another picture anyway.

A3 and K3 1.jpg

The 1230pm KX- Newcastle heads North behind a Grantham A3, while a K3 is held at signals with a Colwick- KX Goods Class F. There was a very tight margin between this goods train and the preceding Up Newcastle, which had stopped at Platform 2, so I reckon this happened quite often. I doubt the goods would have been sent round the Up slow and allowed to cross in front of the express. Photos of what is behind the tenders of both locos to follow tomorrow.

 

AND, I have water.

Good Morning Gilbert,

 

You will be in trouble from the Spotters' Union !!!!   Neither that A3 nor the K3 can be identified. in the picture in 10315.   You'll have to do better than that.

 

Gresley

[great northern]

Good Morning Gilbert,

 

You will be in trouble from the Spotters' Union !!!!   Neither that A3 nor the K3 can be identified. in the picture in 10315.   You'll have to do better than that.

 

Gresley

The spotters can see the numbers, no problem. They are standing on the platform aren't they? Oh, hang on though, you mean the spotters on here?   Actually, I did wonder if I'd get any complaints.

[great northern]

This morning's picture is once again of the train, rather than the locomotive, which is already out of sight past Spital Bridge. One value of this shot is that it reminds me that I haven't painted the roofs on that lovely new triplet set yet.

I thought I'd shopped some more, but apparently not. I'll do so later.

[trw1089]

Ooo eck, that triplet is looking mighty fine!  Must be all the hard work by a certain duck and the GM (GB) of PN...

[great northern]

And here, in this haven of peace and quiet, where discord is a word without meaning, things meander along in their customary way. The Up Newcastle has now departed, so the K3 has the road, and is able to pull away past the spotters, who probably aren't very interested in it, or anything black and nameless for that matter.

Before the Down Newcastle disappeared though, our cameraman was able to get a shot of most of the rest of its train.

 

Please do tell me if you are getting tired of these "train only" images.

[Market65]

Hi. I will never tire of your photo's whether there are trains in them or not. Those latest two are superb, and memories from all those years ago flood back with a vengeance! More please!

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Clive Mortimore]

The spotters can see the numbers, no problem. They are standing on the platform aren't they? Oh, hang on though, you mean the spotters on here?   Actually, I did wonder if I'd get any complaints.

Hi Gilbert

 

I won't be complaining as my Ian Allan ABC spotters books have numbers that start with a D.

[New Haven Neil]

Hi Gilbert

 

I won't be complaining as my Ian Allan ABC spotters books have numbers that start with a D.

 

D20, D49.....no, not Peaks.....

[thegreenhowards]

And here, in this haven of peace and quiet, where discord is a word without meaning, things meander along in their customary way. The Up Newcastle has now departed, so the K3 has the road, and is able to pull away past the spotters, who probably aren't very interested in it, or anything black and nameless for that matter.

K3 1.jpg

Before the Down Newcastle disappeared though, our cameraman was able to get a shot of most of the rest of its train.

A3 coaches 2 JPG.jpg

 

Please do tell me if you are getting tired of these "train only" images.

Gilbert,

 

I love seeing the coaches. Only problem is it reminds me how many I've got to build!

 

Andy