The Border Reiver Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I have obtained my late friend's photos who never recorded numbers, dates or locations. Can anyone identify the location of this class 43 passing through a station and a rough date if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 4 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4 WR somewhere from the signals, and quite early in the HST careers, before the guards’ accommodation was moved into the mk.3 adjoining the power car; late 70s/early 80s. WR practice was to have the first-class accommodation at the Paddington end of the set, so this is probably an up train. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csvt2004 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Could be Liskeard looking towards Penzance. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, csvt2004 said: Could be Liskeard looking towards Penzance. seems likely: 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 11 minutes ago, csvt2004 said: Could be Liskeard looking towards Penzance. That was my first thought too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 minutes ago, melmerby said: seems likely: Conclusive in my opinion - field boundaries in the background match exactly. 18 minutes ago, The Johnster said: WR somewhere from the signals, and quite early in the HST careers, before the guards’ accommodation was moved into the mk.3 adjoining the power car; late 70s/early 80s. WR practice was to have the first-class accommodation at the Paddington end of the set, so this is probably an up train. The TGS was a Standard Class vehicle, so if the train included one it wouldn't be visible on this picture. I don't think anything visibly changed on the power car itself when the guard was moved out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 Thanks all for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted April 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4 4 hours ago, Edwin_m said: Conclusive in my opinion - field boundaries in the background match exactly. The TGS was a Standard Class vehicle, so if the train included one it wouldn't be visible on this picture. I don't think anything visibly changed on the power car itself when the guard was moved out. The 'Guard' lettering was removed I believe from under the former guard door in the power car. Presumably the lettering 'Guard' reappeared on the door in the TGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 34 minutes ago, kevinlms said: ... the lettering 'Guard' reappeared on the door in the TGS. Well, the lettering 'Guard' appeared on a new door on a new type of coach called a TGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 253039 were power cars 43147 and 43148. They entered traffic in May 1981 and seem to have lost their set numbers during 1984 so the photo, which is certainly Liskeard looking West, was taken at sometime between those dates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 19 minutes ago, Flood said: 253039 were power cars 43147 and 43148. They entered traffic in May 1981 and seem to have lost their set numbers during 1984 so the photo, which is certainly Liskeard looking West, was taken at sometime between those dates. Given how good condition the unit looks I would estimate nearer 81 than 84 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Well, the lettering 'Guard' appeared on a new door on a new type of coach called a TGS. Can't see any such lettering on the power car door, but at the resolution the photo is posted it probably wouldn't show up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob83a Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 At what point was the right hand platform extended or was the signal moved. the signal seems to be next to the second mk3, and there is no sign of the right hand platform. In the later photograph the right hand platform extends as far as the signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Bob83a said: At what point was the right hand platform extended or was the signal moved. the signal seems to be next to the second mk3, and there is no sign of the right hand platform. In the later photograph the right hand platform extends as far as the signal. According to "Diesels In The Dutchy" by John Vaughan the platforms were extended in 1981, so that near enough ties the photo down to 1981. The signal on the left is three lamp posts away from the brick building, in the original photo and the overhead view, so that hasn't moved. Edited April 4 by Flood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 But they're not the same lamp posts, of course, so the spacing could have changed !!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treggyman Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Hi In the original picture there is a 'ground signal' on the bracket signal platform..... There isn't one on the photo of Liskeard..... This is in the 'off' position meaning a train is signalled off the mainline unless it's being used as a calling on signal. At Liskeard the only pointwork past the bracket signal is the crossover used for running round or for trains from the Looe line to access the down main..... Also the signal arm signal above the train does not seem to be there in the picture of Liskeard..... It does look like LIskeard though...... Cheers Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Liskeard in 1980 before the sidings were lifted: Copyright Gerard Fletcher on Flickr Same signal, same lamp posts. June 1983 after the platform was extended. Copyright DJS Bailey on Flickr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 4 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4 35 minutes ago, treggyman said: In the original picture there is a 'ground signal' on the bracket signal platform..... Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 4 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 4 I think this is what Treggy has mistaken for a ground signal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 I have obtained my late friend's photos who never recorded numbers, dates or locations. This slide was the next in sequence to the one of a class 45 at Loughborough Midland station which I don't need identifying. It is a class 45/46 (I can't tell the difference) and it looks like it was taken from a train possiblty on the Midland main line around 1981. The the only identifying details are the farm buildings on the right. Can anyone identify the location 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5 22 minutes ago, The Border Reiver said: I have obtained my late friend's photos who never recorded numbers, dates or locations. This slide was the next in sequence to the one of a class 45 at Loughborough Midland station which I don't need identifying. It is a class 45/46 (I can't tell the difference) and it looks like it was taken from a train possiblty on the Midland main line around 1981. The the only identifying details are the farm buildings on the right. Can anyone identify the location I would guess that could be the sea or an estuary in the background and the signal is a BR(W)/GWR LQ one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Am I imagining things or is that first coach from the XP64 train ? ...... if so, someone might know where it might've ben seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Dawlish Warren? Looking across / up the Exe estuary? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted April 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, The Border Reiver said: I have obtained my late friend's photos who never recorded numbers, dates or locations. This slide was the next in sequence to the one of a class 45 at Loughborough Midland station which I don't need identifying. It is a class 45/46 (I can't tell the difference) and it looks like it was taken from a train possiblty on the Midland main line around 1981. The the only identifying details are the farm buildings on the right. Can anyone identify the location The Nissen Hut and it's later variant, ought to make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5 (edited) Could be taken from a train in the platform loop looking north, with the up main starter and possibly what is now Warren Golf Club on right? Edited April 5 by melmerby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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