Horsetan Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I was chatting about what happened to the Chiltern Ironworks range only last year, in fact the owner simply lost interest and retains the entire range of wagon and loco kits. Apparently he is not interested in selling them on, nor re-releasing them. Bad news really as they were a useful range and you NEVER see them second hand. Bad news - seems downright selfish IMO I don't see any other reason. In this life, there will always be people like that. Accept the situation, and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 In this life, there will always be people like that. Accept the situation, and move on. Thought we had, until this thread was suddenly resurrected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 .... this thread was suddenly resurrected Yes, I wonder who was responsible for that, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
industrial Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Yes, I wonder who was responsible for that, then? So stop nagging then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 To get back to the original subject I do know that a kit manufactorer is developing a totally new kit for a Chaldron at the moment. However I'll let them announce it when its ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 What would also be nice is a new kit for a standard gauge side tipping Hudson type spoil wagon. Gordon A Bristol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 What would also be nice is a new kit for a standard gauge side tipping Hudson type spoil wagon. Gordon A Bristol I take it that you mean the steel ones? In which case that would be very welcome. I seem to remember someone doing a kit but cannot remember who. A kit for a wooden 'Manchester Ship Canal' style side tipper would also be welcome, IIRC Chilton Iron Works did those as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I take it that you mean the steel ones? In which case that would be very welcome. I seem to remember someone doing a kit but cannot remember who. Also Chilton Ironworks and, again, subject of an MRJ build article. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RThompson Posted October 19, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi all, thought you may interested in this 4mm scale kit from myself Now finished and to be released at Warley in a month is the Londonderry/Seaham Harbour Chaldron coal wagon. This features cast parts with etched nickel silver brake gear which is very delicate to represent the spacing between the layers. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crantock Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 But is there anything in that wagon that should put the fear of God into a scratchbuilder? The wheels are the hardest to achieve but you could follow Robert's example with Hornby/Bachmann spoked. Use tubes as bearings and grind off the points. I think the waggons used coach bolts rather than rivets. Could do in plasticard with brass offcuts for the brake ("convoy"?). hope this works its a bit long! http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/10/Chaldron.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/10/chaldron_wagons_seaham.htm&h=791&w=576&sz=59&tbnid=R4vg2sE2-MmfrM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=104&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dchaldron%2Bphoto%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=chaldron+photo&hl=en&usg=__0IQlYMfE-v9zla82os4cpva52rw=&sa=X&ei=7CCfTszRKcf48QOtoJGoCQ&ved=0CBUQ9QEwAQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Traxson Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) But is there anything in that wagon that should put the fear of God into a scratchbuilder? The wheels are the hardest to achieve but you could follow Robert's example with Hornby/Bachmann spoked. Use tubes as bearings and grind off the points. I think the waggons used coach bolts rather than rivets. Could do in plasticard with brass offcuts for the brake ("convoy"?). hope this works its a bit long! http://www.google.co...ved=0CBUQ9QEwAQ 2mm diameter inside bearing axles are available from "Alan Gibson", (obviously not with the hexagonal end though) so you don't even have to grind the ends off. Colin can probably supply suitable wheels too, only leaving you to make the bearings from suitable brass tube. Not sure why you should want to scratchbuild though when Robert has gone to the trouble of producing a kit? Phil T. Edited October 20, 2011 by Phil Traxson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 But is there anything in that wagon that should put the fear of God into a scratchbuilder? Surely something you could say about any kit!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 3, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2011 Just picked up two Hornby Rockets for very little and those wagons look very close to the ones in prints for the L&M so maybe some freight for a mini layout? I'll come and have a look at Warley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 (edited) There was a recent thread here http://www.rmweb.co....haldron__st__25 Edited November 3, 2011 by shortliner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 A bit more info on the Chilton iron Works kits. One recently landed on my doormat (type C4) and the instructions state that 4 types were available (descriptions copied straight from the instruction sheet): Type C1 North Eastern Railways chaldron diag. P1 (Also used by all the major colliery companies). Type C2 4T box chaldron from Lambton Collieries. Similar vehicles used elsewhere in N.E. but differing in detail. (Londonderry Collieries also used large numbers of boxes). Type C3 Lambton 4T chaldron. This type very common all over the North East. Pelaw Main Colliery used same design. Centre 3 straps originally timber curved to shape of side. Type C4 Another 4T Lambton Type, but similar vehicles used by other companies. I always thought that they did a Londonderry/Seaham type but it seems that I'm mistaken unless other waggons were introduced later. All kits were designed to be built to S4 and had etched chassis plates with simple compensation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) I've just noticed that Smallbrook Studios have a kit out: http://www.smallbroo...o.com/page3.php (scroll down) Anyone seen one? Edited July 19, 2012 by halfwit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RThompson Posted July 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2012 I saw one myself at the telford narrow gauge show last sunday and they looked ok but had what looked like standard Hornby wheels. Think it was a one piece casting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) but had what looked like standard Hornby wheels The website states that they come with " Dapol wheel sets and NEM tension lock couplings." I think they sound very lightweight in "vacuum cast in polyurethane resin" - I think I would prefer the weight and integrity of white metal. Edited July 20, 2012 by Kenton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RThompson Posted July 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2012 Ive just seen the price, (didnt take notice of the price at Telford), makes me seem like i'm seriously under charging! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hi Try Smallbrook studios have just ordered 3 they have a website they are 3d printed.phone o11 44 1983 520584 you will have to convert the the phone back to uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) A Smallbrook Studio N.E.R. Chaldron dropped through the letterbox today. The 3 main parts (body, chassis and wooden brake block) are nicely cast in resin, also included are 2 lengths of wire. Instructions are very good for such a simple kit. I ordered mine without the Dapol wheels or tension lock couplings which knocked a couple of quid off the price. Some pics; Note that the chassis has lead weight cast into it. The axles just clip into place. Wheels are Gibson from my own stock not the Dapol ones which are usually supplied. A little bit of flash is present on this end of the body casting, the other end is nicer. A couple of air bubbles are present but nothing that causes concern. The interior features plank and bolt head detail. Body and chassis together weigh 11 grams. I rather like this one. Apologies for the quality of the pics., resin is a pig to photograph. A full build will appear in my blog in due course, after I finish building my Chilton Iron Works one. Edited July 27, 2012 by halfwit 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Glad that you explained that the chassis has lead shot moulded into it. I wondered what the hell it was made from, looks like spotted dick!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hold on a second, is not the Smallbrook Studio chaldron wagon 7mm narrow gauge (00 track)? Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hold on a second, is not the Smallbrook Studio chaldron wagon 7mm narrow gauge (00 track)? No, and yes. The one which I bought, pictured above, is a 4mm scale model of a standard gauge waggon of NER origin. Smallbrook also use the hopper body on a different chassis to make a 7mm scale narrow gauge hopper waggon, which can be seen on this page: http://www.smallbrookstudio.com/page4.php (halfway down). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Chaldron variety; Left to right: Chilton Iron Works Lambton type, RT Models Londonderry/Seaham type, Smallbrook Studio N.E.R. type (unstarted). Note the greedy boards (extra planks to increase payload) on the Lambton waggon. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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