Early Risers.

[iL Dottore]

One other thing: Roman slavery was colour blind - slaves coming from all over the empire (and from beyond the borders). Just like Roman citizens, Roman slaves could be of any race, creed or sex. Some nationalities were prized more than others for certain slave roles (e.g. Greek slaves as tutors and scribes).

[TheQ]

Many British ( including Ireland at that time) slaves were taken from around our coasts to North Africa..  up till the early 1800s

 

 

Spinny thingy err

 

 

Spins😀 

Edited May 13 by TheQ

[Compound2632]

On 11/05/2024 at 19:57, Ozexpatriate said:

thanks to the former member of Parliament for Cambridge in 1689 and 1701 (or was it Leibniz?)

 

Leibniz has never been a constituency represented in the British Parliament (or English Parliament, as it was then)...

Edited May 13 by Compound2632

[Hroth]

1 hour ago, Gwiwer said:

Something Dr SWMBO has always found comforting. She often listens to the shipping forecast on her way to sleep. 
 

I use it for watch-keeping purposes these days. 
 

“Distant (Signal) West: West-south-west 4; 13; 998 steady; rain in past hour; misty or fine later; slight; moderate to good occasionally very poor.”

I've not listened to the Shipping Forecast for ages, Nowadays I try to be well asleep by time "Sailing By" appears over the horizon...

 

Just checked our "actual" forecast...

 

Easterly or southeasterly 4 or 5, occasionally 6 at first in west, decreasing 2 to 4 later. Smooth or slight, becoming slight or moderate for a time. Rain. Moderate or good, occasionally poor.

 

It applies to Fraggle Rock too.  🙃

 

 

(It helps to remember the sequence of the information phrases too:  Wind direction and strength, Sea state, Weather, Visibility)

 

Edited May 13 by Hroth
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[iL Dottore]

7 minutes ago, TheQ said:

Many British ( including Ireland at that time) slaves were taken from around our coasts to North Africa..  up till the early 1800s

 

 

Spinny thingy err

 

 

Spins😀 

Indeed.

Curious isn't it that nearly all the current "narratives" about slavery in the 1700s fail to mention that, or the role of the Arab slave traders or even mention those African kingdoms that became incredibly rich by "acquiring" slaves from the African interior and selling them on to European and American traders (the African interior was a death trap for all White Europeans at that time due to disease that the locals could tolerate [if not immune to] but were fatal to whites).

If the purpose of such historical revision is to "shine the spotlight of truth and illuminate the hidden corners of history" they are doing a p*** poor job of it.

[Erichill16]

55 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Leibniz has never been a constituency represented in the British Parliament (or English Parliament, as it was then)...

Wasnt he a baker, or am i thinking of his brother?

[Ozexpatriate]

1 hour ago, iL Dottore said:

Some nationalities were prized more than others for certain slave roles (e.g. Greek slaves as tutors and scribes).

With great consequence to Western religion.

 

CNN was running the following around Easter:

 

CNN: Opinion: How ‘God’s ghostwriters’ transform our understanding of the Bible

 

The author extrapolates on the documented contributions of a presumed enslaved scribe name Tertius who wrote Paul's letter to the Romans. One can imagine literate Greek slaves doing the actual writing part of most of the New Testament.

[Hroth]

6 minutes ago, Erichill16 said:

Wasnt he a baker, or am i thinking of his brother?

 

Its not very nice to get butter on your kecks...

 

[Compound2632]

4 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said:

One can imagine literate Greek slaves doing the actual writing part of most of the New Testament.

 

Quietly shaking their heads over Paul's bad Greek?

[Compound2632]

11 minutes ago, Erichill16 said:

Wasnt he a baker, or am i thinking of his brother?

 

Hard to differentiate between the two. 

[Ozexpatriate]

1 hour ago, iL Dottore said:

Curious isn't it that nearly all the current "narratives" about slavery in the 1700s fail to mention that, or the role of the Arab slave traders or even mention those African kingdoms that became incredibly rich by "acquiring" slaves from the African interior and selling them on to European and American traders ...

I don't know what narratives you are reading. The Island of Gorée is a UNESCO World Heritage Site - and visited by a sitting POTUS. The role of the slave ports in West Africa is not just well documented but well understood - certainly here. The white slave traders certainly had African accomplices. 

 

As to Mediterranean slavery and the Barbary Corsairs - their impact is well known to any US history student who paid attention. The hymn of the Marine Corps mentions the "Shores of Tripoli" in the first line. The Treaty of Tripoli (1796) is one of the first US treaties not involving the revolution and military actions of the US defending its interests as a sovereign nation.

 

Edited May 13 by Ozexpatriate

[Ozexpatriate]

17 minutes ago, Erichill16 said:

Wasnt he a baker, or am i thinking of his brother?

Curious, I looked up the name:

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The brand name Leibniz comes from the philosopher and mathematician Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (1646–1716). The only connection between the man and the biscuit is that Leibniz was one of the more famous residents of Hanover, where the Bahlsen company is based. At the time when the biscuit was first made there was a fashion of naming food products after historical celebrities (such as Mozartkugeln).

 

[Compound2632]

Ah, so the same principle as Fig Newtons, then?

[PhilJ W]

14 minutes ago, Ozexpatriate said:

With great consequence to Western religion.

 

CNN was running the following around Easter:

 

CNN: Opinion: How ‘God’s ghostwriters’ transform our understanding of the Bible

 

The author extrapolates on the documented contributions of a presumed enslaved scribe name Tertius who wrote Paul's letter to the Romans. One can imagine literate Greek slaves doing the actual writing part of most of the New Testament.

Jesus Christ was executed by the Romans and almost certainly under Pilates orders. Crucifixion at that time was a special punishment reserved for Enemies of Rome. 

It was said that a Roman governor had to make three fortunes, one for the emperor, one for his sponsors and finally one for himself. Part of that enterprise was the money changers in the temple, Pilate was taking his cut from the money changers so must have been really p1ssed off when JC entered the temple and upset the tables.

[DaveF]

I got a few more photos scanned.  The second load of washing stopped mid cycle, looking at the machine's timer I think I had caught the touch sensitive screen as I washed my coffee mug.  Fortunately it restarted when I touched the right spot.  

 

After lunch I went out as planned and bought a few useful things in Dunelm Mill and looked at bedlinen and curtains for future reference.  I did find a new baking tray and polythene bags!  I had a walk around Currys and thought about a new TV for the railway room/office but the old one works and I don't often have it on so why change it.  I don't need a smart TV in there, there is a PC and a laptop on the bench.

 

At the garden centre I found a long handled hand fork along with soome slow release fertiliser granules for the tubs.  Then I bought a few plants and had a good look at slow growing conifers which I will probably buy in the autumn.  For the first time I didn't feel exhausted while I was out.

 

Tonight there is not much on TV so I may scan photos, or watch football or just read again.

 

David

[PhilJ W]

1 hour ago, iL Dottore said:

One other thing: Roman slavery was colour blind - slaves coming from all over the empire (and from beyond the borders). Just like Roman citizens, Roman slaves could be of any race, creed or sex. Some nationalities were prized more than others for certain slave roles (e.g. Greek slaves as tutors and scribes).

 

1 hour ago, TheQ said:

Many British ( including Ireland at that time) slaves were taken from around our coasts to North Africa..  up till the early 1800s

Many of the Barbary pirates were European but operating from the Barbary Coast.

1 hour ago, iL Dottore said:

Indeed.
Curious isn't it that nearly all the current "narratives" about slavery in the 1700s fail to mention that, or the role of the Arab slave traders or even mention those African kingdoms that became incredibly rich by "acquiring" slaves from the African interior and selling them on to European and American traders (the African interior was a death trap for all White Europeans at that time due to disease that the locals could tolerate [if not immune to] but were fatal to whites).
If the purpose of such historical revision is to "shine the spotlight of truth and illuminate the hidden corners of history" they are doing a p*** poor job of it.

There was a two way slave trade between northern Europe and the Black Sea using the River Volga. Mainly young Scandinavian women southwards and male Africans northwards. Most of the women going south were very young, 12-15 years old and most of the Africans heading north were eunuchs.

[Winslow Boy]

3 hours ago, Tony_S said:

I think I would have quite liked a career as a grounds maintenance operative. 

Sorry looks like you've got a brain cell, your able to make a decision which is evidence of self determination, so I'm afraid you'll have to be a gardener instead.

[Tony_S]

5 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said:

Sorry looks like you've got a brain cell, your able to make a decision which is evidence of self determination, so I'm afraid you'll have to be a gardener instead.

Actually I think people often assume I am more capable than I am so when I can’t do something they think I am being “difficult”. If I don’t understand  something, I will ask. This seems to be quite annoying to some people. 

Aditi knows to be specific in the gardening tasks, after I once pruned the wrong clematis. My task today was quite simple, to put all the tools away. Aditi was rushing in after being bitten by mosquitos. She seems to be more susceptible each year. When we first moved to Essex the mosquitos caused unpleasant reactions but I am less bothered now.

Tony

[Winslow Boy]

Here's a photo of the only iris in flower. I do like them but unfortunately they don't do very well here which is a disappointment.

 

This one is called Edith. Unfortunately I can't remember the rest of its name other than it's for a well known breeder of them.

10 minutes ago, Tony_S said:

Actually I think people often assume I am more capable than I am so when I can’t do something they think I am being “difficult”. If I don’t understand  something, I will ask. This seems to be quite annoying to some people. 

Aditi knows to be specific in the gardening tasks, after I once pruned the wrong clematis. My task today was quite simple, to put all the tools away. Aditi was rushing in after being bitten by mosquitos. She seems to be more susceptible each year. When we first moved to Essex the mosquitos caused unpleasant reactions but I am less bothered now.

Tony

That is one of things I used to drum into my staff and contractors. If you don't know ask. But it was very difficult sometimes.

Edited May 13 by Winslow Boy
Photo on phone

[PhilJ W]

Afternoon all from Estuary-Land. At long last I've got rid of that pesky fly. It has been in my house for almost a week. Usually the spiders are very efficient at getting rid of them but there seems to be very few of them this year. It finally met its end* under a heavy book just now. *Probably quite literally, it was a heavy book.

[PupCam]

Evening All

 

3 hours ago, Gwiwer said:

I use it for watch-keeping purposes these days. 
 

“Distant (Signal) West: West-south-west 4; 13; 998 steady; rain in past hour; misty or fine later; slight; moderate to good occasionally very poor.”

 

I'm loving the Distant (signal) West shipping forecast!  😀 Will it be a regular feature?

 

1 hour ago, Compound2632 said:

Hard to differentiate between the two. 

 

And to carry on the the mathematics theme just a bit longer.  I wonder what do you get if you integrate two brothers  ......... ?

 

ION

 

Friend came to collect his scaffold tower this morning so the pile of what looked like scrap metal at the bottom of the garden has gone.   A very useful tool and an interesting experience.  Just so long as I don't have to repeat it anytime soon.

 

The little Beeza is poorly.  More specifically the gearbox and even more specifically the kick starter return spring is kaput.       A replacement spring is being procured via the Bay.  I had hoped a complete dismantling would not be required. 

 

 

A forlorn hope as it turns out.  First stage now the side of i is off is to dispose of a  pint of  semi-fluid grease which is packed into it.   Yuk!

 

Down the pub tonight for a catch-up with a model flying chum who lives not a million miles from the White Elephant roundabout.

 

TTFN

 

 

[jamie92208]

5 hours ago, Coombe Barton said:

How do you tell and extrovert mathematician?

They're looking at your shoes rather then their own.

 

And of course there's the constipated one who worked it out with a pencil. 

 

Jamie

[jamie92208]

After that last post I'll try to do better.  A busy day has been had.  Last night a minor miracle occurred.  I helped Beth make up her dossett boxes for the next fortnight, and even though I thought I was becoming like Robert, we remain friends.  This morning I was out early and sorted out the Physio appointment. The rest of the morning was spent fitting an automatic door to the new hen hut.  Not finished yet.  A quick lunch then took Beth to her first Physio session.  It went well and he was very pleased with her as she has been excersing at home.  Now we are into three sessions per week for the next 6 weeks.  

 

When we got home, calendars were marked up, then I finally finished a 1500 piece jigsaw that's been defying my efforts for a few weeks.  Then a shepherd's pie was made and seems to have been enjoyed.  Now a phone call to no1 son in an hour. 

 

As to calculus, or was it the calculus.  I did it for A level but never really understood it.  

 

Ttfn. 

 

Jamie

[polybear]

11 hours ago, Tony_S said:

If no one misbehaved , why was he chucking dividers around then? 

There’s always one that never learns….

 

10 hours ago, jjb1970 said:

I am really excelling myself next month. I got an invite to a meeting in Germany to discuss reducing GHG emissions (what else?) organised at short notice. So I cancelled my existing flight to Tokyo and booked a flight Singapore - Frankfurt - Tokyo - Singapore. I get home on Saturday morning and then fly to Copenhagen to talk about the urgent need to emit less. My daughter gave me an ear bashing last night, I told her not to blame me, I have no real desire to spend a large part of the month flying around. I have to say, it is ridiculous.

 

The thing I was slightly annoyed about other than the obvious of such a meeting being called at short notice is I had to cancel my Tokyo trip with Asiana as they're an excellent airline and will soon disappear into Korean Air. I now fly with Air China, another airline I like but I fear this was my last opportunity to fly with Asiana. Their food offering is superb, well it is if you like Korean food. 

  
Think of the Air Miles - they’ll come in very handy when you’re retired.  Ask a Bear how he knows….

 

9 hours ago, BSW01 said:

I did calculus, differentiation and integration at college, we were taught be an ex-rocket scientist, so he made learning it all quite easy. 

  
Bear’s college maths tutor was strongly rumoured to be ex-SAS; he was certainly ex Army, knew a lot about weapons and had apparently done Mercenary work too.  He was one tough SoaB that took sh1t from no-one.

 

8 hours ago, iL Dottore said:

The thing is there are some simple ways of reducing emissions without undue sacrifice. One of which is to stop eating out of season fruit and vegetables. Do you really need out of season asparagus, strawberries or avocados flown in from god knows where?

 

Many people (Bear included) wouldn’t have a clue if they were in season or not; the easy way would be to stop shops from selling them.

 

1 hour ago, Tony_S said:

 

Aditi knows to be specific in the gardening tasks, after I once pruned the wrong clematis. 

Bear once watered Momma Bear’s Clematis with petrol; that’s bad, apparently….

 

1 hour ago, PupCam said:

The little Beeza is poorly.  More specifically the gearbox and even more specifically the kick starter return spring is kaput. 

Bump start it??

[Winslow Boy]

Naughty Bear.