Cliches on layouts

[The Johnster]

Isn’t that a tram?

[BachelorBoy]

On 07/05/2023 at 02:32, Chris M said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ridgeacre or Ridgacre? Perhaps the lawyers should appealed against the order given the inconsistent spelling?

[Chris M]

27 minutes ago, BachelorBoy said:

 

Ridgeacre or Ridgacre? Perhaps the lawyers should appealed against the order given the inconsistent spelling?

Whoops! The "e" was errant. Ridgacre is correct. The Ridgacre branch was fully closed as per the notice (but not until 2019), the track lifted, some items rescued for preservation or use on other layouts and the rest was binned.

 

[Chris M]

A Metcalfe brewery is an important cliche for many layouts.

 

Extra cliche for putting the layout builders name on the brewery.

 

Of course I wouldn't do anything like that......well not now. 😉

Edited August 21, 2023 by Chris M

[Donw]

There is no way something you haven't seen modelled can be a cliche. A cliche is a good idea that so many copy that it becomes over used. whenever you come up a good layout idea it may be the seed of a cliche.

 

Don

[009 micro modeller]

5 hours ago, BachelorBoy said:

Ridgeacre or Ridgacre? Perhaps the lawyers should appealed against the order given the inconsistent spelling?

Perhaps one is the name of the place and one is the station name (as with Harringay/Haringey)?

[john new]

Cliffe, Yorkshire and Cliff Common on the adjacent railways.

[newbryford]

On 31/07/2023 at 20:43, St. Simon said:

 

I’m not sure if we’ve covered this, but what about train cliches?

 

I’m thinking of NR Test Trains on modern layouts is probably one of the current train cliches? (I’m only think this in that I’m choosing trains for an exhibition and realised my test train is probably a cliche!)

 

 

I couldn't possibly comment..........

 

 

 

 

[Hroth]

4 minutes ago, newbryford said:

 

I couldn't possibly comment..........

 

 

 

 

 

You need to put some Fyffes transfers on those!

 

[newbryford]

Should this be on a bridge?

 

 

[papagolfjuliet]

On 07/05/2023 at 00:29, Pacific231G said:

I've seen grounded wagon bodies used as agricultural sheds in both North America and France- rather as old ISO containers are often used now. There have been a few restaurants based on Wagon Lits restaurant car bodies- there are or were a couple on top of one of the retaining walls of the Batignolles cutting maybe half a mile outside the Gare St, Lazare. I did once stay in a motel in Pennsylvania  whose restaurant was a former Pennsy dining car but, though static,  that was still on its wheels on a length of track. So too were the motel's cabins that were all ex Pennsy Cabooses. Its name "The Red Caboose Motel" (look it up) should have been a clue!

 

A few American diners probably were grounded bodies but the vast majority were built for the purpose by a number of specialist companies, particularly in te 1920s and 30s. Some of these came over here but I don't  think there are many left. The long narrow shape enabled them to be prefabricated and shipped by rail or truck to their site. The archetypical stainless steel design was inspired by "streamliner" trains like the Burlington Zephyr and thousands were built. I've eaten in the diner car of the polar Bear Express in northern Ontario and it had more or less the same layout as a typical roadside diner. I suspect though that its layout was inspired more by roadside diners than the railway version.  I think traditonal American dining cars followed the same basic design as European ones with a separate kitchen at one end and seating  on both sides of an open saloon. The typical; prefabricated diner layout of a long counter with stools on one side with cooking facilities behind it and table seating on the other side is often too wide for even American RR loading gauge so would have had to be shipped as a wide load by road. 

Their decline in America seems to have come with the expansion of branded fast food joints like McD, Burger King, Taco Bell etc.

 

There used to be a typical American Diner on the A40. Fortunately, it's closed down now and a block of flats built on the site. I say fortunately having been there a couple of times but this link explains why

http://www.cheeseburgerboy.com/2014/02/starvin-marvins-greenford.html 

 

In the Prototype For Everything Department, the New York Subway car now at Quainton was originally imported to the UK for use as an American diner on Teesside.

 

https://www.brc-stockbook.co.uk/nycar.htm

Edited November 11, 2023 by papagolfjuliet

[009 micro modeller]

On 27/10/2023 at 14:08, newbryford said:

Should this be on a bridge?

 

 

I’m not sure the ‘adaptations’ actually make it look more like a bus. It looks a bit like a Merseyrail yellow 507/508 now though.