bigwordsmith Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Hi Dave Love the inspection coach I wonder how long you spent trying to make a 1:76 cup of teA before deciding that there is a limit to how much details you need:-) Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Been following this for ages, just oozes with atmosphere, the shot of the McRat, i had to do a double take. Keep up the fantastic work. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Hi Dave, Great work on the inspection coach. What colours did you use for the interior? They look about right to me. Cheers Peter. PS How do you get the body off? Thanks Peter. I sprayed the interior with Railmatch Sleeper Grime (!). I then painted the chairs maroon. I don't have any good photos of any inspection saloon interiors but I thought they looked OK. As regards the body, before you do anything else, unclick the handrails next to the doors on either side from the body. These seem to be fairly firmly attached to the underframe but they can be prised out of the body relatively easily with a pair of tweezers or similar. After that it's just a question of unclipping the body along the bottom of the body next to the frame with a thumbnail or piece and/or plasticard. There are no screws if I remember rightly. Hope that helps! Cheers Dave Hi Dave Love the inspection coach I wonder how long you spent trying to make a 1:76 cup of teA before deciding that there is a limit to how much details you need:-) Peter Hmmm, a cup of tea. I hadn't thought of that Peter. Not a bad idea actually!! Cheers Dave Edited November 9, 2014 by Waverley West Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Waverley West Posted November 9, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I've just been catching up with your thread and stunning pics. The pics always remind of the time I spent a couple of weeks in the early 80s at the Carlton Hotel, with a room overlooking Waverley station. I thought you might like this pic. A pair of 20s arriving on a late running service from Inverness. (If my memory serves me correctly) Class 20s at Edinburgh Waverley.jpg Mal Fantastic shot that Mal. Many, many thanks for posting. It's given me an opportunity for a bit of variety on my Inverness services, which have invariably been in the hands of a 40, 47 or 2 x 26s plus the occasional 37 so far. In fact, by sheer coincidence I happened to be down at Waverley West this evening when what should arrive but a late running Inverness service behind 2 x 20s... Unfortunately, I couldn't quite try and reproduce your shot as I haven't modelled the wall in the background (yet). You don't happen to have any other shots of Waverley from that time, do you?? He says greedily. Cheers Dave EDIT: I've just realised that I'd positioned the train coming out of Tunnel W, when it should have been coming out of Tunnel X (second from the left) judging from Mal's photograph. Doh! Edited November 9, 2014 by Waverley West 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Waverley West Posted November 9, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Hi again folks, Here as promised are a few shots of the latest project to emerge from the WW works... 58050 58050 will now undergo trials on various coal flows to Longannet and Cockenzie power stations via Waverley West. Cheers Dave PS This loco has had various livery omissions corrected, including the missing black grilles and missing black doors and the cab door handrails/guards painted properly. The Coal Sector logo was replaced with a Fox Transfers version. This was followed by renumbering and fitting with etched nameplates, BR arrows and depot plaques. All rounded off with a garnish of varnish and the usual WW weathering and a Howes sound chip, which sounds very nice with a base enhanced speaker tucked inside. Edited November 9, 2014 by Waverley West 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Fantastic shot that Mal. Many, many thanks for posting. It's given me an opportunity for a bit of variety on my Inverness services, which have invariably been in the hands of a 40, 47 or 2 x 26s plus the occasional 37 so far. In fact, by sheer coincidence I happened to be down at Waverley West this evening when what should arrive but a late running Inverness service behind 2 x 20s... 2 x 20 4 BW.jpg 2 x 20 2.jpg 2 x 20 3.jpg 2 x 20 5.jpg Unfortunately, I couldn't quite try and reproduce your shot as I haven't modelled the wall in the background (yet). You don't happen to have any other shots of Waverley from that time, do you?? He says greedily. Cheers Dave EDIT: I've just realised that I'd positioned the train coming out of Tunnel W, when it should have been coming out of Tunnel X (second from the left) judging from Mal's photograph. Doh! Thanks Dave, I'm glad you liked the pic. It certainly was unusual to see those 20s at the time. It was early evening and I was just about to return to my hotel. I've found a few pics of 27s on the Dundee service. 27012 27020 27037 Mal 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 58 looks great David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Thanks Dave, I'm glad you liked the pic. It certainly was unusual to see those 20s at the time. It was early evening and I was just about to return to my hotel. I've found a few pics of 27s on the Dundee service. 27012 27012 at Waverley.jpg 27020 27020 at Waverley.jpg 27037 27037 at Waverley.jpg Mal You spoil me, Mal. Some more great shots there and some very useful details. Many thanks! Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hi Dave, I really like the inspection saloon, looks good being pulled by a 26. As for 58050, very nice indeed. I remember seeing her at Toton whilst still on test, think it was undergoing the SEPEX testing and kept away from the main shed. It still had the cast Railfreight plates on the front but painted black. Looked very smart. You have done a great job on her, looks right at home chez Waverley West! I am looking forward to seeing and hearing about the progress on the depot floor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks Dave, The inspection coach is a little way off being worked on but thanks for the info. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Hi Dave, I really like the inspection saloon, looks good being pulled by a 26. As for 58050, very nice indeed. I remember seeing her at Toton whilst still on test, think it was undergoing the SEPEX testing and kept away from the main shed. It still had the cast Railfreight plates on the front but painted black. Looked very smart. You have done a great job on her, looks right at home chez Waverley West! I am looking forward to seeing and hearing about the progress on the depot floor. Cheers Alex. 58050 has quickly become a favourite on freight through WW, despite Edinburgh being well away from its normal stamping ground of course. I always fancied an ex works version of it but I decided to weather it in the end. I have bought one of the latest Coal Sector releases though, so that may end up being the ex works version instead. I also have a "Test Car 6" test coach in the works at the moment, which I think will go very well with the 58s in particular. I've seen a photo of it at the head of an HAA MGR rake with a 58 at the helm. I thought it would make an interesting formation and be a biit different. The inspection coach, rerailing coach, tribometer train and test coach should all make for a bit more variety on WW now. Red/blue 97201 is now nearly ready for release from the works too and looks very smart. Cheers Dave Edited November 11, 2014 by Waverley West Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks Dave, The inspection coach is a little way off being worked on but thanks for the info. Cheers Peter. No worries, Peter. You're welcome. I know only too well what it's like having a queue for workbench projects! Another thing I should have mentioned though is that the glue on the glazing on mine was very variable. Some windows were glued in very flimsily while others seemed like they were set in concrete. If you don't want to take the windows out, I recommend you handle it very carefully! Cheers Dave Edited November 11, 2014 by Waverley West Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) I am looking forward to seeing and hearing about the progress on the depot floor. Hi again Alex, The depot floor has been cut to shape and primed and is now ready to glue down. I think I have come up with a paint mix (using Woodland Scenics acrylics) which will give something close to the colour and finish I am looking for. I've done some test areas on the old depot floor which I removed and am quite pleased with the results. More on this soon I hope. Once the depot concrete is down, I will be able to finish off the ballasting in the depot area, which will be a big step forward as regards the general appearance of the depot I think. Then it will be on to the buildings, which I'm both "nervous" and excited about at the same time. I'm just hoping that my buildings end up as square as yours! Cheers for now, Dave Cheers Dave Edited November 11, 2014 by Waverley West Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridangel77 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 That 58 looks fantastic running through the tunnel. i must get one in that livery when Heljan re-release them soon. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 That 58 looks fantastic running through the tunnel. i must get one in that livery when Heljan re-release them soon. Terry Cheers Terry. I got my latest one from Hattons, who have some in stock at the moment (originally from Olivia's I think, who commissioned the run and are also selling them at the moment). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridangel77 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Cheers Terry. I got my latest one from Hattons, who have some in stock at the moment (originally from Olivia's I think, who commissioned the run and are also selling them at the moment). Oh right, i did not know hattons had them. I'm off to have a look at hattons now...thanks for the info matey, keep the photo's coming. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Waverley West Posted November 11, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) Hi folks, A few attempts at atmospheric shots tonight... Light and shade at play on the side of a coal-stained 26004... Starburst effect at Waverley... 47644 sets off from Haymarket for Waverley... Northbound HST sat at Platform 19 Waverley... And finally for now 40142 glints in the sunlight... Cheers Dave Edited November 12, 2014 by Waverley West 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Looking at Waverley makes me want to go into my shed and rip it all up and try again its superb the locos look fantastic and overall the detail is brilliant thanks you certainly inspire me to try harder.sdddddddd m, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The last word in that post should be thanks,the cat walked over the keyboard and had a stretch !!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Mr WW, Like others have said, superb layout. I wouldn't say no one else has achieved the "is it real or is it model" look before, but no one has done that as consistently as you have. I think one of the first things you've clearly got right when you started is the track. I did read which ballast and paints you used to get that look- and it clearly works very well indeed (although I've lost that page now somewhere in the nearly 60 pages). What I would like to ask you, if I may, is which of the several techniques did you use to ballast? glue first then ballast over or ballast first then spray glue/water mix? Apologies if you've already gone through that- I have been working odd hours and on some late nights I must admit to have been watching the photo's greatly and the text going straight over my head. I have seen a few other layouts that are also real inspirations, but I don't think any of them can claim the "is it real???" title like WW can. Derek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Looking superb as always David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Hi Dave, I can see why it has become a favourite of yours! I remember the photos of 58s on test with a Test car on the front of a rake of HAAs. Also remember seeing a test car sandwiched between two 58s on the Ratcliffe to Fletton fly ash workings. I look forward to seeing 97201 and your test car in action.I plan to get a model of test car 6 to have with 60001 and 60002 on test at Boxenby. I know what you mean about being nervous but also excited both at the same time, I share your sentiments! Many a time have I felt that way ahead of attempting certain parts of my project…. Always nice to see an Eastfield Large Logo 47! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Looking at Waverley makes me want to go into my shed and rip it all up and try again its superb Hi lms, Nooooo! Just get some natural light on your layout, crouch down pretending you're 24mm (scale 6') tall, take some photos with maximum depth of field as if you were taking photos of the real thing and you're halfway there! Add in some subtle weathering with carefully chosen colours and some smoke and mirrors and there isn't much more to it than that. This shot was taken with unballasted track for example... Incidentally, your cat's post was far more eloquent and better argued than some I've seen on here. The spelling was better too. Cheers Dave Edited November 12, 2014 by Waverley West 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Mr WW, Like others have said, superb layout. I wouldn't say no one else has achieved the "is it real or is it model" look before, but no one has done that as consistently as you have. I think one of the first things you've clearly got right when you started is the track. I did read which ballast and paints you used to get that look- and it clearly works very well indeed (although I've lost that page now somewhere in the nearly 60 pages). What I would like to ask you, if I may, is which of the several techniques did you use to ballast? glue first then ballast over or ballast first then spray glue/water mix? Apologies if you've already gone through that- I have been working odd hours and on some late nights I must admit to have been watching the photo's greatly and the text going straight over my head. I have seen a few other layouts that are also real inspirations, but I don't think any of them can claim the "is it real???" title like WW can. Derek Dear Mr Derek, Thank you for your kind words. I laid the ballast loose and then wet it with a plant sprayer. I then applied the usual mix of PVA and water plus a drop of washing-up liquid using a syringe. After covering the nitty gritty bits of points, I then spray the track with a mixture of Railmatch aerosols - Sleeper Grime, Roof Dirt, Weathered Black and Frame Dirt mainly, all depending on the location (i.e. darker where locos stand, etc.). Hope that helps! Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Thanks Dave I'm sure you are probably cheesed off with people keep on asking similar questions. I knew the colours you used, but was interested in the method. Whilst I am sure I could never reach your standard, it is certainly something to aim for. I shall think of several of your photos as I am working along on my own project. Derek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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