Andrew Peters Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 As the title says I am looking for information on the GWR camping coaches. I am hoping to build 1 of the converted 55ft clerestory first/second class coaches, and would like an idea of what they looked like inside. I have some vehicle numbers: W9909W, W9901W these were 6 berth camping coaches. Any help greatfully recived Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePipersSon Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 The Wild Swan book - Camp Coach Holidays on the GWR - ISBN 1874103534 - has some photographs of interiors, but no plans as far as I can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 For Camping Coach interiors, GWR etc., have a look at 'Scenes from the Past : 30 (Part Two)' 'CAMPING COACH HOLIDAYS' by Andrew MacRae (Foxline). Part One covers mostly ex LNWR coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I saw an article or book recently with photos and plans of the interior of GWR camping coaches, but I don't recall what it was. I do know that it is somewhere in the house, so I'll have a look tonight. I seem to recall that the berths were bunk singles (2 bunks per compartment), and the main area was created by removing some of the compartment dividers. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Peters Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 Cheers guys, will have to have a look to see if I can get any of those book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 There's a two minute film clip on British Pathe at http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=53893 that might be of use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Probably not much help but one of the British Transport Films is all about camping coaches (in a wonderful 'Here's some fine young fillies enjoying some smashing ginger beer' style), although I can't remember for the life of me which one it was or if it was even GWR specific. Lots of interior shots though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 The book I was thinking of was "Odd Corners of the GWR" by Kevin Robertson. He has a chapter on camping coaches with both interior and exterior photos of a number of different types. There is also a plan, although probably not a particularly usefull one for you since it is of one of the early 4-wheel coaches. The early coach is interesting in that the you had to go outside to get to the sleeping compartments, where later coaches had interior access. Some of the interior photos are, I think, of the series you are interested in (certainly a clerestory). Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Peters Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Cheers guys. This is all helping me with my layout design idea. B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveBedding Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 As the title says I am looking for information on the GWR camping coaches. I am hoping to build 1 of the converted 55ft clerestory first/second class coaches, and would like an idea of what they looked like inside. I have some vehicle numbers: W9909W, W9901W these were 6 berth camping coaches. Any help greatfully recived Andrew As a starter for 10, from the two running numbers given here's a bit of initial information: Running Number 9901 Originally - 58' Tri-Composite Brake Van, Diag E72, Lot 1030, No: 7492 (Lot and original number questionable?) Converted - 1952 Running Number 9909 Originally - 54' Corridor 3rd, Diag C17, Lot 1020? (though possibly 927?), No: 3243 Converted - 1952 There is a useful table in M Harris' Great Western Coaches from 1890 (Chapter 10 Miscellany) and JH Russell's A Pictorial Record of Great Western Coaches - Part 1 1838-1913 has a drawing of the interior of Diag C17 as built; this may be of use for dimensions of the original partitions and form a basis for a conversion. I've had a quick look and it appears that Worsley Works has the artwork for a C17 etched body in 3mm - it may be worth contacting them to enquire about reducing it down to 2mm? Hope this is of help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Peters Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Steve, Great information, converstion dates are interesting as they are later than dates give for coaches being at Winscombe they might have been on other sections of the Chedder valley line then. Will have to look at some of the pictures and see if I can find any other numbers. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoovered Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 For Camping Coach interiors, GWR etc., have a look at 'Scenes from the Past : 30 (Part Two)' 'CAMPING COACH HOLIDAYS' by Andrew MacRae (Foxline). Part One covers mostly ex LNWR coaches. Page 94 has a photo of one of the coaches you are looking for and page 84 has a plan of a western region 8 berth camp coach, it might give you an idea of the layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isambard Kingdom Brunel Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Issue 61 of GWR Journal has a photo of a camping coach at Llanfyllin, I would love to find out what type of coach that was so I can feature it on my model of Llanfyllin. Due to copyright I can't put the photo on here Apologies to Andrew for hijacking his thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Peters Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 For Camping Coach interiors, GWR etc., have a look at 'Scenes from the Past : 30 (Part Two)' 'CAMPING COACH HOLIDAYS' by Andrew MacRae (Foxline). Part One covers mostly ex LNWR coaches. Page 94 has a photo of one of the coaches you are looking for and page 84 has a plan of a western region 8 berth camp coach, it might give you an idea of the layout. Cheers, will definatly have to go on the search for a copy of this book then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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