RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted March 21, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2011 Can anybody please point me in the direction of any photographs of old style containers being lifted on or off a wagon or trailer? My own library has failed me and Mr Google can't seem to oblige either. I'm trying to find out if they were lifted using any sort of a frame, or were chains from the roof-top lifting rings simply slung over the 'ook of the crane? Many thanks, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 IIRC, the lifting rings on the four chains were slung over a hook and the container lifted off the conflat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Is http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/5-unit/unitload1.htm (no pix but descriptions) any good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted March 21, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21, 2011 I found this picture t'other day which may be some use, container being transferred from a Conflat to a flatbed lorry:- http://southernrailway.net/search/display_pic.php?search_fd0=33376 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Have a look at this:- http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Booklet_BR20427_Issue.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 These images will help; Arthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted March 22, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2011 Brilliant guys. Just what I needed. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Those are cracking photos, Arthur. I wonder if they could somehow be transferred to the BR Road Vehicles thread? Do you know where the first and third one were taken? I remember a forklift like the one in the last shot at Swansea (Hafod) goods depot- I think it lasted until the depot shut in the 1970s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Good photos, now it raises a question from me how did they hook the chains on? I haven't seen a ladder anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Good photos, now it raises a question from me how did they hook the chains on? I haven't seen a ladder anywhere. Being official photographs posed by B R, they just removed the ladder from the shot. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Being official photographs posed by B R, they just removed the ladder from the shot. Merf. Sorry, except the Freightlifter forklift, which had a ladder attached to the machine which is visible in the photo. Merf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Those are cracking photos, Arthur. I wonder if they could somehow be transferred to the BR Road Vehicles thread? Do you know where the first and third one were taken? Hi Brian, as Merf mentions, the first and third are BR publicity shots and I'm not sure that locations are given but I will check tomorrow. Not much help but the second is a BICC publicity shot and is Leigh, Lancs, where they had a factory. It does seem sensible to include them in the BR vehicle thread so I'll just re-post them there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Having worked for the cartage dept at Bristol, 1959-63, I can say that the most usual way that the chains were attatched were by a man holding on to the chains and being lifted by the crane off the ground and on to on to the roof of the container. Then staying on the roof untill the container was positioned on the road vehicle, he would then unhook the chains and be lowered back to the ground holding on to the chains. He also obtained a better grip by wrapping his legs around the chain. This is absolute fact as I done this myself on many occasions while working as a vanguard at Temple Meads. Regards, Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted October 9, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 9, 2012 Can anybody please point me in the direction of any photographs of old style containers being lifted on or off a wagon or trailer? My own library has failed me and Mr Google can't seem to oblige either. I'm trying to find out if they were lifted using any sort of a frame, or were chains from the roof-top lifting rings simply slung over the 'ook of the crane? Many thanks, Bob. Probably a 4 leg sling. Could be wire rope http://www.ashleysling.com/bridle-slings-four.htm or chain http://www.liftsafesolutions.co.uk/id143.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DavidLong Posted October 9, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 9, 2012 Having worked for the cartage dept at Bristol, 1959-63, I can say that the most usual way that the chains were attatched were by a man holding on to the chains and being lifted by the crane off the ground and on to on to the roof of the container. Then staying on the roof untill the container was positioned on the road vehicle, he would then unhook the chains and be lowered back to the ground holding on to the chains. He also obtained a better grip by wrapping his legs around the chain. This is absolute fact as I done this myself on many occasions while working as a vanguard at Temple Meads. Regards, Keith. Sounds like you were working under the usual draconian health and safety rules then Keith :-) David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 And I always thought these containers had a big ring in the centre for the hook! Isn't that the way Meccano portrayed them on theirs - either Hornby 'O' gauge or H-D, not sure which? Another illusion shattered. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Great pics there! Does anyone know what 4mm scale cranes are available to use on a layout set in the 50's 60's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 And I always thought these containers had a big ring in the centre for the hook! Isn't that the way Meccano portrayed them on theirs - either Hornby 'O' gauge or H-D, not sure which? Another illusion shattered. Stewart Dublo ones had a ring screwed into the roof while the 0 gauge ones had a ring attached to four pieces of chain - rather more prototypical. The less said about the lithographed sides and roof the better, but it was the tinplate era. There were working cranes too in both scales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Great pics there! Does anyone know what 4mm scale cranes are available to use on a layout set in the 50's 60's? Corgi do a Coles 6-tonner in various liveries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sounds like you were working under the usual draconian health and safety rules then Keith :-) David Yes indeed, especialy seeing I was a 15/16/17 year old vanguard [ drivers mate ]. On the parcels side of the railway you were a vanboy, but on the "superior" cartage dept , working on freight, [usually 8 ton artics] you were a vanguard. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Probably a 4 leg sling. Could be wire rope http://www.ashleysli...slings-four.htm or chain http://www.liftsafes...o.uk/id143.html Yes, it was the 4 leg chain that was used at Temple Meads, and probably most other depots. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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