RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2011 Seeing yet another release of the Graham Farish N Gauge Pannier Tank, which dates from 1970, on a major retailers website got me wondering if there are any other major RTR items still in production of a similar or older vintage? I'm sure there must still be some ex-Triang bits in the Hornby range, particularly the Thomas stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Probably some pieces in the railroad range too. How about the Hornby B-sets, are those still the toolings they inherited from airfix? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Just a guess, but I expect there are still some Lionel items still being made. also some Tyco HO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 http://www.google.co...ved=0CGIQ8gIwAA Surely this is a contender? And they're asking just shy of forty notes for it on the High Street Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The Athearn Ready-to-roll (not Genesis) F7A tooling dates back to being a "Globe Models" kit from 1954, although it's had a few tweaks over the years! http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/athearnlocomotives/id115.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 http://www.google.co...ved=0CGIQ8gIwAA Surely this is a contender? And they're asking just shy of forty notes for it on the High Street Definately - I can track that back to Triang circa 1957 so a decent contender for this side of the water? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Probably some pieces in the railroad range too. How about the Hornby B-sets, are those still the toolings they inherited from airfix? Those are 1980s tooling, so not even close to being in the running. The Hornby Colletts are much older, and they really aren't in the running either. The Hornby Mk1 must be up there, though. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2011 Seeing yet another release of the Graham Farish N Gauge Pannier Tank, which dates from 1970, on a major retailers website got me wondering if there are any other major RTR items still in production of a similar or older vintage? Most of the other items suggested so far now are used in budget or toy ranges where as the Farish 94xx is still in the main range with the RRP being a fraction under £64. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Those are 1980s tooling, so not even close to being in the running. The Hornby Colletts are much older, and they really aren't in the running either. The Hornby Mk1 must be up there, though. Adrian Indeed it must. I'd say we could trace the parentage of Dapol's SR PMV, Banana van and Blue Spot fish van back a long way too. I think the fish van was released in time for Christmas 1961. On a different tack, I notice some of Hornby's Skaledale range share more than a passing resemblance to the inherited Airfix kits, the bus garage aka supermarket, Faulkner's Electrical shop and the Airfield Control Tower all look like they started off with someone in the Chinese factory reverse-engineering a master from a made-up kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I'd say we could trace the parentage of Dapol's SR PMV, Banana van and Blue Spot fish van back a long way too. I think the fish van was released in time for Christmas 1961. I'm no expert on Dublo but I'd think there are a few older wagons than those, bodywise at least - the Blue Spot and CCT (not PMV) were relatively late introductions, marketed with the plastic chassis only AFAIK, and the banana came on the 10ft wb metal chassis but only the one with 'see through' brakegear, whereas the cattle van, grain wagon and standard planked Vanfit at least, and possibly also the gunpowder van, appeared in the days when the pushrods were cast with infills above them, and no brake lever. I dont know if Dapol still do the SD 5-plank and steel High Goods, but they're of similar vintage. Incidentally if you look at Dapol's website and their current OO wagon pricelist, the first entry B345A is described as a 'Nanana' van B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold LH&JC Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2011 What about Hornby's Dean & Caledonian singles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Belgian Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about Hornby's Southern Utility van, which has just been released in the "Imperial Airways" train set. It was released as R226 in 1958 (53 years ago!!!) and hasn't changed since, except for its wheels and couplings. JE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2011 How accurate are the 4mm wagons and coaches that are still in production? I know that the product that started this thread could at best be described as inaccurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2011 How old is the tooling for the Gordon within the Thomas the Tank engine range? As that uses the old Scotsman tooling so must be quite old. Annie and Clarabel coaches they must be quite old as I have a blue one that was produced by Triang. (That was used for busy services!) Regards, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 What about Hornby's Dean & Caledonian singles? 1961, I think. How old is the tooling for the Gordon within the Thomas the Tank engine range? As that uses the old Scotsman tooling so must be quite old. I think that is the second-generation tender-drive tooling rather than the original Triang loco-drive tooling. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2011 I think that is the second-generation tender-drive tooling rather than the original Triang loco-drive tooling. Adrian Thanks for that Adrian, Yeah it is tender-driven, although mine packed up years ago! One of those little jobs that is awaiting repair. (And probably will still be waiting until I have children of my own) Regards, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about Hornby's Southern Utility van, which has just been released in the "Imperial Airways" train set. It was released as R226 in 1958 (53 years ago!!!) and hasn't changed since, except for its wheels and couplings. JE That's the one I thought of immediately. I don't know about the age of Trix toolings but one or two items in the Bachmann range stem from it - the bulk grain wagons, for instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How accurate are the 4mm wagons and coaches that are still in production? I know that the product that started this thread could at best be described as inaccurate. The ex Hornby Dublo Banana van has one of the best body mouldings around (the chassis is another matter, but it can be replaced by the Red Panda one). It does suffer from some very odd made up liveries though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about Dublo coaches? http://www.coopertrains.com/coopertrainscoaches.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Colin Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2011 Are the Hornby lineside huts still in production (fogman's hut plus 2 larger ones in a set of 3)? I had a set on my first layout back in the 50s, not sure when they first appeared. Apart from a colour change they're exactly the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Belgian Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about Dublo coaches? http://www.coopertrains.com/coopertrainscoaches.html Did Meccano Ltd make their coaches from etched nickel silver? Surely these are just repros "in the style of Hornby Dublo". JE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2011 Did Meccano Ltd make their coaches from etched nickel silver? Surely these are just repros "in the style of Hornby Dublo". JE Gosh, 120 quid plus for a faux Hornby Dublo coach. Get a whole rake of Bachmann MK1s for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Brinkly Posted May 4, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about Dublo coaches? http://www.coopertra...inscoaches.html I am really shocked that people would want to buy modern Tinplate items! I had no idea that they were still being produced, albeit under a different name, but still. I can completely understand collectors/modelers wanting to purchase the original models, but modern ones that is a surprise. Regards, Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Did Meccano Ltd make their coaches from etched nickel silver? Surely these are just repros "in the style of Hornby Dublo". JE Just using modern materials, for example, the Devious Diesel in production today is not made of the same plastic as back in 1958......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Triang hand crane? Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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