Mark 37 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I'm about to do an order with Fox, but I can't find any waterslide for West coast railways. I then done a quick google and still nothing. Are there any out thier or have I missed something? Regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercig studios Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hi Precision Decals do the transfers: http://www.precisionlabels.com/wcrc.html hope that helps M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 M, Thank you for that. Strange they never showed up in a web search. Regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Thanks again for the information on transfers. I've placed an order and await the arrival. I have placed an order for Railmatch West Coast Livery acrylic. As per a conversation on another thread, I prefer enamels. Does anyone out there know of an alternative supplier of this colour in enamel? I've looked at Precision Paint's and found BR maroon. Is this the same colour? I remember reading about a class 47 WCR's that was described as this colour. Best regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted May 24, 2011 Share Posted May 24, 2011 I think comparing the two shades, that WCRC is darker? NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 I wonder if adding a little matt or weathered black would give me the correct colour or even using matt black as the primer? Any ideas? Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hello all, I've now completed my first 37 respray. Now I'm wonder about doing some coaches. can you tell me if the coach colour is the same shade or is it standard BR maroon? Thanks for any advise you can give. All the best, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_R Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I recently picked a loose paint flake off a wcrc coach (it was already peeling off so i didnt consider i was doing any damage) and compared it directly against a BR maroon coach. I couldn't tell the difference so I'm going with the theory it's the same colour all be it done with modern paints. The striping is also the same being a yellow-gold and black line although the wcrc seems a bit thicker, although it is made of vinyl tape rather than printed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 As already mentioned, BR and West Coast Maroons are very different! I've got to agree with the the theory that the coaching stock is standard BR maroon. When I've seen Western Champion working with WCRC stock, the whole train is one uniform colour, with a dull brown 47 on the back A thought I've had to doing a train of WCRC mk1s is to take some RTR mk1s and just repaint the ends to maroon from black is probably the easiest way HTH jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hi, Thanks for the replies, I've a couple LMS maroon MK1 coaches that will soon be redundant, so thought I could respray them. I know the two are very different, but you can't always trust photos online of which I have seen coach colours the same as the loco's. Always better to ask first before going hell for leather at it and being wrong. With using the LMS coaches (silver roofs). I'll need a roof colour, but in my searches I've found three shades of grey under the tittle BR coach roof grey, two were the standard railmatch codes, but one started "RC". Can you tell me which code I actually need? Sorry for all the questions, but I'd like to get it right with decals costing £10 for numbers and another £10 for logos Thanks, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Mark, the carriages that are the same colour as the locos are the Royal Scotsman - one prestige train operated by WCRC, with the locos painted to match. As far as I'm aware, all WCRC stock in normal usage is BR style maroon, with the odd bit of chocolate and cream etc With regards to roof grey - I'd recommend using what looks right to you. The picture I posted earlier shows at least 3 shades. And when you take weathering into account... jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Hi Jo, The pictures I've found online surprisingly had no title but now you say it, it makes perfect sense. What a idiot I am , I've taken pics of it. In my defence it was steam pulled and I've the mother of all toothache today. I'm also blonde, does it show sometimes? Best regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_R Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Can anyone suggest a suitable 47 in RTR that is the correct spec to be repainted into on of the West coast locos? I don't care which one I just fancy a maroon 47 and would rather just paint an existing loco than have to modify and detail first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hal Nail Posted September 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hi, I think the Bachmann RES 47 would do for 47245 - still got the full tank and battery boxes, opaque marker lights at no.1 end and raised marker lights at no. 2 end. Loads of photos on class 47 site will confirm. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hi all, As mentioned above I have some LMS coach stock that I would like to respray but I'm not 100% sure if they will be suitable. I have read online that the WCRC has some stock but I've not managed to track down any other information. Can anyone help shed some light on this subject for me? Best regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I doubt that you would see any ex LMS coaches on the main line nowadays. The WCRC set which went to Scarborough with Duchess of Sutherland last Saturday was a mix of Mark 1s and 2s with a Met Cam Pullman and a Mk2 Pullman brake end (the only vehicle not in maroon BTW) thrown in. If you would like me to I could give you a consist and I even took a picture of every coach. 47237 which was taken off at Derby had an inset headcode panel at the fan end and flush at the other. 47804 which tailed the train has an inset panel at the fan end but I didn't get a pic of the other end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hi Bruce, Thanks for the information. Off to eBay for some mk1 & 2 coaches I think. Best regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 10, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2013 As mentioned above, the loco and coach shades are different. http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinelsey/8113896252/ I would concur that the WCRC coaches are BR maroon and the locos are a darker shade. I'm trying to track down a colour match for the locos and the best I've got so far is BS381c - 541 maroon. http://www.e-paint.co.uk/Lab_values.asp?cRange=BS 381C&cRef=BS381+541 Phoenix Precision do it in their range. Would other readers agree about the loco colour? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruston165 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Hi all, having contacts at WCRC Carnforth, the coach colour is not BR maroon, its got a more red tint to it, i havent done any coaches in WCRC livery so i havent expermineted to get the correct shade, however, i have done 5 or 6 locos in WCRC livery, i use Precision Paints Enamel Metropolitan Maroon, which is just a shade too brown, so, i add Precisions Loco Lining Red to take an edge off the Met Maroon, and bring out the red tint in the paint. I have had my models next to a wcrc loco and it aint a kick in the ars* off it. HTH Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruston165 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Hi all, having contacts at WCRC Carnforth, the coach colour is not BR maroon, its got a more red tint to it, i havent done any coaches in WCRC livery so i havent expermineted to get the correct shade, however, i have done 5 or 6 locos in WCRC livery, i use Precision Paints Enamel Metropolitan Maroon, which is just a shade too brown, so, i add Precisions Loco Lining Red to take an edge off the Met Maroon, and bring out the red tint in the paint. I have had my models next to a wcrc loco and it aint a kick in the ars* off it. HTH Lee PS, i get my WCRC transfers, numbers etc from r3sprays. www.r3sprays.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ta for the info. I've tracked down WCRC maroon Railmatch 2280 acrylic. (Ta Andi) As with any of the red based pigments, maroon is a PITA, especially as it seems to weather so quickly (just like NWR yellow....) As long as the locos look darker than the coaches, then it'll probably do me. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Not really wanting to bump an old topic, but this information seems to asked for regularly. Railtec models now do the WCR logos for coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
torqueofthedevil Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 ...and the full set of markings for 47826 with Scarborough Spa Express advertising Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu357 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I know this thread is old but I think its still relevant as I was looking for the info last week! I did an experiment, thin coat of Halfords Rover Damask red over black on the left, excuse the dust! Its definitely darker than the coaches, although they are your model railway village ones!! Lima, 33029 this uses a mixture of RAILTEC transfers and Precision decals + blue stars printed on crafty computer paper. all sealed with Halfords acrylic satin lacquer which didn't attack the transfers. I'm not saying its right but it was an easy way to get close. Hope someone else finds this useful. Stu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Ta for the info. I've tracked down WCRC maroon Railmatch 2280 acrylic. (Ta Andi).... Railmatch have stopped production of 2280, which kind of sabotages my plan to paint a Finney "Hall" in Hogwarts colours, unless there's a near-substitute available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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