class37418stag Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Hiya Wath diesel depot have only one enter from headshunt ? I am not sure Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Just noticed this question, Andrew, and I think it deserves a bounce. I've found some stuff on Flickr straight away. Here's a typical example from the superb 53A Models collection, but I'm sure others, especially the Woodhead Route specialists, will be able to do better at answering your question more precisely. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/3731802734/in/photostream/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Andrew, Funnily enough I have had exchanged a few mails over the subject of Wath Diesel depot with a good friend Vic Smith. It is not often realised that the Diesel depot was completely seperate from the Electric depot. Its construction was completely different (BR(E) house style like a small Tinsley or Stratford and it was situated in the middle of the yard near the site of the old steam turntable without any road access. It is not mentioned in the D&E On Shed series by OPC and is often confused with the electric depot which took over its diagrams when it closed probably around 1971. Photos are very rare but here are two: http://www.abrail.co.uk/Images/Wath%20Diesel%20%20J%20Hall.jpg http://www.abrail.co.uk/Images/Wath%20Diesel%20Chris%20Bush.jpg Now the real question is do you really mean the Diesel depot Andrew or the Electric one? Cheers Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Just picked this thread uip through searching on Google, RE: The Diesel Depot, I understand that at one time it once had a large allocation (pre Tinsley opening) I can see from the combine volumes of the time some loco's allocated there, 41C I believe? some 37's and 47's alongside of course a collection 08's, is there a handy website which would allow one to search this sort of info or is it a case of the old fashioned method of pen and paper and going through th ebook, to find out the allocation list for a given year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 31, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Just picked this thread uip through searching on Google, RE: The Diesel Depot, I understand that at one time it once had a large allocation (pre Tinsley opening) I can see from the combine volumes of the time some loco's allocated there, 41C I believe? some 37's and 47's alongside of course a collection 08's, is there a handy website which would allow one to search this sort of info or is it a case of the old fashioned method of pen and paper and going through th ebook, to find out the allocation list for a given year? A good place to start. http://brdatabase.info/index.php Mike. Edited to include link. Oooops. Edited January 1, 2013 by Enterprisingwestern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Hi How much would it cost to model this shot http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingfisher24/4911281242/in/faves-allan5819/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 31, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2012 HI Tony I missed the photos you posted of the depot until today, thank you it looks a great ER glasshouse shed to model. Like many I have confused the well photographed electric shed with being the same place as the diesel depot. I have seen photos in the past and dismissed them as a mistake by the person writing the caption and thought them to be of Darnell shed. I did look at the Old Maps website after reading your earlier post. The 1/2500 maps either predate the diesel depot or post date it so track plan remains unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 When I was an apprentice, we had a supervisor at Frodingham, formerly at Wath, who referred to the Electric Depot as the Maintenance Shed and the Diesel Depot as the Service Shed, given that the Electric (Maintenance) Shed was more comprehensively equipped this makes sense in as much as heavier work would have been carried out there on the diesel allocation and the Diesel (Service) Shed concentrating on lighter work carried out during layovers; Fuel, A Exams etc. I would have thought it the other way around, the three road Diesel depot looking much more likely to have been for heavier work? and the electric depot for as intended electrics, I believe, but need some proof etc to confirm, that the 3 road Diesel depot closed when the electric depot was de-electrified to make way for diesels and the two never worked side by side? Unlike Tinsley which had the heavy repair shed and running shed near to the yard for fuel etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Hi How much would it cost to model this shot http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingfisher24/4911281242/in/faves-allan5819/ You would need to buy a lot of pantographs to replace the crap Heljan ones! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 RE: the yard, just looking at a very very faint diagram, were the Eastern Departure roads numbered with one fan (the one closest to the mainline) as even numbersd and the other fan odd numbers? rather a straight 1 to 31 across all of the roads? Also has anyone any ideas when A and B boxes were closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I would have thought it the other way around, the three road Diesel depot looking much more likely to have been for heavier work? and the electric depot for as intended electrics, I believe, but need some proof etc to confirm, that the 3 road Diesel depot closed when the electric depot was de-electrified to make way for diesels and the two never worked side by side? Unlike Tinsley which had the heavy repair shed and running shed near to the yard for fuel etc. Hi 18B, As a casual visitor in the mid 1970s (after the diesel depot had closed but when the EM1's were still active), the electric depot always had a mix of diesels (mainline and shunting) and electrics on shed. The actual 2 road shed always seemed to have diesels in it and reminded me of a mini Reddish with no raised platforms and plenty of room to work around locos. I would have thought major maintainance was within their capability. It also had road access for spare parts, whereas the former diesel depot had to have all supplies come by rail. I recall classes 37, 31, 25 and 45 all being in the shed. Funnily enough I cannot recall a re-fuelling point but that must be my memory! Cheers Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 1, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2013 Hi How much would it cost to model this shot http://www.flickr.com/photos/kingfisher24/4911281242/in/faves-allan5819/ Depends how much the Judith Edge kit will be. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2013 Just found another photo of Wath Diesel Depot http://www.rail-online.co.uk/ImageView.aspx?id=1cdd5348-b5a8-4774-9dcd-8ad95572c7e1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrush Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Also has anyone any ideas when A and B boxes were closed? Wath 'A' Sidings box closed July 1981, Wath 'B' Sidings box closed 9 July 1982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter A Hall Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Until recently I had never appreciated that two post steam era BR depots had existed at Wath-upon-Dearne. Being a 70's spotter I was familiar with the two road depot that started out as an electric depot in 1951 but by the 1970's had been de-wired and was used for diesel maintenance. From preliminary research, which has included the recently published 'On Shed part 4' I have concluded the three road diesel maintenance depot in the centre of the yard probably came into use in October 1963. At about the same time the electric depot ceased to service and maintain electric locomotives and became a diesel servicing shed. Main line locomotives were allocated to 41C from 10/63 - 5/68 with only Class 08's subsequently. From this I am deducing, possibly wrongly, that the Diesel Maintenance Shed closed in 5/68 and the servicing (former electric shed) became a servicing and maintenance depot. Need to delve further but does anyone know of any articles or other reliable references on the topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveloco1 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Hi Guys Just spotted this. I lived in Hemsworth not many miles from Wath Shed and mainly cycled there or drove there later when I got my first car, fairly frequently usually on a sunday from about 1970 until the depot closed. I never knew there was a diesel depot as well. When we visited, with little difficulty from management, we always visited the electric shed. EM1s parked in a long line under the wires, there were no wires in the shed itself. We accessed from the west (road crossing) end of the yard and cycled down a cinder track which came out on the access road to the to the depot. Class 08, 31, 37 and 47s were noted there hidden from the road over the bridge by the depot buildings. Last time I visited it had been taken over by what appeared to be a chemical industry concern. I've a few photos if anyone's interested but the quality is not brilliant as they are scans of photographs Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I only have a photo of the former electric depot, by then de-wired apart from a siding: E26052_Wath by Robert Carroll, on Flickr What look like fuel tanks are alongside the shed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter A Hall Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 The fuelling point at the former electric depot was, I believe, at the side of the shed behind the Class 37 in the previous posters photograph. What I believe to be the fuel tank can be seen. I doubt if this facility existed when the shed first opened in 1951 but the tank is visible in a c1962 picture when the shed was still seemingly wired. Possible dates for its installation could be 1953 when diesel shunting locomotives were first used in the yard and 1961 when mainline diesel locomotives first saw use in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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