two tone green Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Yep, I think you could well be right. Another one off Mr Watermans list. 45 & 40 next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Darn Im on holiday for Telford ( really should communicate better with my wife ) I will look for the pictures with interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Me too. That makes two of us from Wales on holiday when Telford is on. Does that mean Wales will be shut then. Sorry, back on topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Me three! Don't think the north west will be closed in my absence, though! I shall certainly be interested in seeing just how good a job Heljan have done with one of my all time favourite diesels - they certainly do seem to keep getting better and better! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Heljan's Facebook page and website now have a picture of the Western in side, front and 3/4 view. http://www.Heljan.dk/webkontrol/modul/filarkiv/visfil.asp?id=3060 Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 UMMM cant quite decide on those pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Will the production run have the front valance attached to the bodyshell Brian ?.........the join looks rather clumsy on the pre-production pics. Cheers Phill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The fairing is on the chassis and yes there is a joint problem but I know what needs doing to rectify it. A report has been sent to Heljan on issues with this pre-production model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Now I am back from a weekend break here are some pictures of the Western that I tested on my garden line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Now I am back from a weekend break here are some pictures of the Western that I tested on my garden line. Interesting images. There seem to be a number of issues with this one in my opinion, the most obvious being the height of the valences, in particular they should all be at the same height above rail level. The footholes in the front valence sides don't come high enough, the foot hole under the cab doors should be offset towards the front of the loco not in the centre. The lock for the cab door should be above the handle and not in the crack, the horn shold be inclined slightly down at the front and it seems the roof profile at the front whilst better than the 4mm version is still a long way from the correct shape. They also have a mould line running all the way along the front of the roof beyond the roof panels. The rubber block in the middle of the bogie is an odd shape and the brakes look very skinny. Sorry if I offend anyone's sensitivities with these comments, but having crawled all over 1010 taking measurments a few years ago, they are a bit too glaring to let pass without some observations. Regards Mark Humphrys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'm no expert on Westerns (a fraction before my time actually) but the glazing (virtually flush) looks much better than that on the forthcoming Class 31 already! (which was a backward step after the good job they did on their recent Class 33 glazing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
campaigner Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 My first impressions are good, not quite perfect but certainly good enough for me when that hits the shelves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 Thanks for posting the pictures Brian. Could I ask what revisions you have pointed out to Heljan and what have they said they are going to change before production? Thanks Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard carr Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Brian It looks very good and cetainly captures the overall look and feel of one, even if there are some small detail deficencies. I might even buy one although I doubt one ever got to Newcastle except maybe on a railtour. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 From some angles it looks very, very nice but the centre valance depth (or lack of) as Mark points out does leap out to my eyes, as does that 'joint' above the buffer beam. Interesting that they've tooled it up without headboard clips too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 On closer inspection of the Westerns bogie moulding I noticed that the central rubber mouldings that should have a dividing line around it's centre have been put in backwards! I have turned them round now, looks a bit better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Thanks for the great photos Brian. Looking at the ones of the instrument panel and cab rear bulkhead it looks like there are SMC LED's for cab lights and instrumentaion lighting. Yes? It does look nice though. Still stuck in the south of France on holiday and will miss Telford. Do please post any news on the Western, 31 and new releases if you can. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 In answer to the last question, yes the Western does have LED's in the rear bulkhead for the cab lights as per the prototype. If these bother you when running just pull the wires out of the PCB. Today I gave it a run on the old Holiday Haunts layout, a Western on the sea front again! I put a video of it up on You-tube a couple of days ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS6R4O0qsX8&list=UUXGIxY_z3Y5_oQlvYp7gqaw&index=1&feature=plcp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2012 In answer to the last question, yes the Western does have LED's in the rear bulkhead for the cab lights as per the prototype. If these bother you when running just pull the wires out of the PCB. Today I gave it a run on the old Holiday Haunts layout, a Western on the sea front again! Good job it wasn't yesterday or I would have been most upset about missing it (having completely overlooked what teh date was until it was a bit too late ). BTW that PerWay bloke seems to have noticed the wonky buffer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Thanks for the update on the cab lights Brian. Candidate for function outputs on the V4 XL Decoder so not wasted by any means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1963 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 In answer to the last question, yes the Western does have LED's in the rear bulkhead for the cab lights as per the prototype. If these bother you when running just pull the wires out of the PCB. Today I gave it a run on the old Holiday Haunts layout, a Western on the sea front again! I put a video of it up on You-tube a couple of days ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS6R4O0qsX8&list=UUXGIxY_z3Y5_oQlvYp7gqaw&index=1&feature=plcp Always great to see a 1000 on the sea wall. There can be no better association than Westerns and Devon Sea walls. Now do I upgrade to O gauge or stick with the OO and Dapol's soon to be released model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
campaigner Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Both ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 The last week I have been painting the Heljan 7mm Western pre-production model to see what it's like with a bit of yellow on it! I have added a set of Shawplan nameplates on it as well. Just waiting to see when they send over a second model with all the mods on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldlugger Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Very nice indeed Brian. I wouldn't say no to one of these, just to look at as I don't have an O gauge layout! Is there any indication of when they will be on sale, how much and who will sell them? Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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