Linners Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Is anyone aware of any images relating to the newly proposed coach releases? I have looked on the Dapol website but I can't find anything relating to these. I'm more interested in the suburban kits as I but can't be sure what the suburbans look like? I'm presuming that they will not be the same as those produced by Bachman. Linners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Hello, photo can be found here. http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/296884_290478784303210_214563285228094_1118367_1403715255_n.jpg For general info, Dapol seem to put their most up-to-date news on Facebook now. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dapol-Ltd/214563285228094 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 That looks like the old Airfix offering. I think they should be very popular since there is a real shortage of RTR LMS Suburbans. Over the years I have collected several Airfix coaches and upgraded them. Here's how I did it: http://bmrcm.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/LMS-Suburban-Coaches.pdf John 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I believe that they are the old Airfix ones. Nice to see them getting a new lease oflife, especially as there are more suburban locos to haul them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Thanks Guys, I appreciate your help. Brossard,many thanks for the link on how to detail these - I'm looking to do a bit of kit bashing when I get hold of the brake version. Linners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Glad to help Linners. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted October 21, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2011 A quote from that facebook page linked to in post #2: "We have now re-furbed the first of the old Airfix OO Stanier coach tooling." So this tooling was never sold to Hornby.Did Dapol retain any other Airfix RTR tooling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 So this tooling was never sold to Hornby.Did Dapol retain any other Airfix RTR tooling? This is a good question and I do not know the answer. I am not even sure if the toolings were unique. Several of Dapol's early N gauge models were shrunk from the Airfix 00 toolings (1400, Autocoach, B-sets) despite the fact that Hornby own these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 What is really needed is a Push Pull coach (other than the GWR example). John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linners Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 What is really needed is a Push Pull coach (other than the GWR example). John I whole heartedly agree - It was not just the GWR that operated these, and with increased detailing of locomotives and interest in smaller train formations surely these coaches beg to be produced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 This is a good question and I do not know the answer. I am not even sure if the toolings were unique. Several of Dapol's early N gauge models were shrunk from the Airfix 00 toolings (1400, Autocoach, B-sets) despite the fact that Hornby own these. Wasn't there one of the Stanier Corridor variants that Hornby haven't made? If Dapol still have those, I think they'd go great guns at around this price point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted October 22, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2011 Did I miss the announcement of these? This sounds excellent, and even the RTR price is highly competitive. What refurbs have been done to the tooling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Wasn't there one of the Stanier Corridor variants that Hornby haven't made? If Dapol still have those, I think they'd go great guns at around this price point. They do a 60' Composite. Not quite to Hornby standard (unsurprisingly given the decade or two between the models) but useful enough. For post-48, I think I'd just hang fire and substitute the forthcoming Bachmann porthole version though... (or go the Comet route) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Nevard Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 These scrub up well with a bit of extra work, one can also replace the moulded handrail on the ends with wire and replace the prism like glasing with Gem Flushglaze. The final outcome is that you have a set of unique carriages that are not like every body else's down the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I have all the bits from Comet to make a pair of push pull coaches using the old Bachmann Period II (or was it Period I?) underframes and roofs. The disappointing thing is that I messed up the Comet sides when I tried to drill holes for the hinges. (A mystery to me why the hinge holes aren't etched in along with the holes for handles and door stops). I am inspired by David Jenkinson's book on scratch building coaches to have a go with 0.020" plastic card using the duff Comet sides as templates. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 These coaches to D1736 and D1737 were Period II Inter-District coaches, hence the provision of lavatories. None from Lots 529/30 were ever converted to push & pull use. The compartment sizes in the lavatory brake third were the same as on non-corridor brake third and some cuttin 'n shuttin should produce a reasonable copy of a push pull driving trailer. However, with so much work involved, wouldnt it be simpler to attach the correct etched brass sides and driving trailer end to the Dapol roof? In fact, seeing as the chassis has to be rebuilt, why not solder together a coach kit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Coachman, I am aware that the Diag modelled by Airfix/Dapol was wrong for the Push Pull conversion. As I said, I did get the appropriate sides but screwed them up. I could get new ones but I thought I'd stretch myself a bit and try some in plastic card - I have more confidence that I can the hinges right with this material. Cheers John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Appears to be in inexpensive way of building a rake of coaches What you get for £8.95... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartp Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Appears to be in inexpensive way of building a rake of coaches What you get for £8.95... Ta. Not even worth hunting them down on Ebay to convert to something else at that price. I don't even have to dis-assemble them ! Edited November 2, 2011 by stuartp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Appears to be in inexpensive way of building a rake of coaches What you get for £8.95... A very clever idea - supplied as a kit to assemble yourself and at a bargin price. Well done -- Dapol. I hope the introduction is a great success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 A very clever idea - supplied as a kit to assemble yourself and at a bargin price. Well done -- Dapol. I hope the introduction is a great success. Takes me back to the days when Triang and Trix used to sell some of their models as 'kits'- due to the strange nature of purchase-tax, these were exempt (or at least subject to a much lower rate), and were thus considerably cheaper than the fully-assembled model. Triang called this range 'CKD' (Completely Knocked Down), a term coming from the motor (and possibly aviation) fields, where things would be exported in crates, rather than fully assembled. Dapol are doing a range of unpainted wagon bodies, which merit a look, as well. I bought a dozen or so last week, which are going on to Parkside underframes- things like LMS planked vans, Banana vans and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 The interiors sold on their own would interest me. Is this feasable if purchasing a quantity Dapol? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free At Last Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 There are lots more coaches to come. There is the 57 foot non-corridor brake, 60 foot corridor composite and 60 foot corridor brake (for these we just need to get the tooling sorted for the corridor connectors). There will be 4 livery versions for each,- so another 14 coaches to come in total. In addition, as has been suggested, we will probably do an unnumbered version of each as well so modellers can add different numbers at their leisure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 You can buy components from Replica. They do the 64' suburbans, among other things. http://www.replicarailways.co.uk/ John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 You can buy components from Replica. They do the 64' suburbans, among other things. Thanks but I do already. But Dapols non-corridor lavatory interiors are not on offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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