GC Jack Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Just picked a partly built DJH kit of the Duke on ebay. Couple of questions. Did the tender have oval buffers and what was the shed plate it carried before it was taken out of service? Many thanks, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Deffinitely round headed buffers on the tender. As far as I know, it was a Crewe North (5A) engine all its working life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted December 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2011 And still carries 5A to this day I've got a DJH example to rebuild for the vicar, will be appearing on my blog once I make a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC Jack Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Thanks guys.I'll look out for the blog. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2011 Are you modelling it as BR steam (pre-1968) or as preserved? Note - as preserved it has had some very visible modifications to the tender. Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Are you modelling it as BR steam (pre-1968) or as preserved? Note - as preserved it has had some very visible modifications to the tender. Cheers, Mick Added to that, it's carried three different tenders in its life. OTTOMH, the DJH catered for the later BR one - the BR1J. Aside from the obvious preservation modifications, there is little difference between the BR1E it was built with and the one it has now, which I believe was originally behind a 9F? Basically, it's a BR1C modified to have a vast water capacity. HTH, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The DJH BR1J is quite the unfriendliest mix of etched and cast components that I've ever come across. There's a whitemetal cross-piece, for example, that is supposed to act as a brace for the tender rear. I wouldn't have chosen whitemetal for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The DJH BR1J is quite the unfriendliest mix of etched and cast components that I've ever come across. There's a whitemetal cross-piece, for example, that is supposed to act as a brace for the tender rear. I wouldn't have chosen whitemetal for that! Not to mention some of the most comprehensive instructions around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC Jack Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Thanks to all for the latest. I am modelling it before preservation, 1960's, so can you advise me of the detailed changes please? The tender has a coal pusher I assume that is correct? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92220 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Thanks to all for the latest. I am modelling it before preservation, 1960's, so can you advise me of the detailed changes please? The tender has a coal pusher I assume that is correct? Jack Hi Jack Yes, BR1J with a coal pusher from October 1957. Tim's right about the other tenders too. Preservation one is a BR1C from 92134 converted to a BR1E and then extra water tanks added on the rear top behind the coal space I think. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted December 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2011 Hi Jack, for 1960's you will need a BR1J tender, yes it has a pusher. AWS battery box on the RHS ahead of the cab and filthy Note 71000 did not have metal cabside numbers until preservation EDIT: ahha! 92220 beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I mentioned somewhere else on the forum when comparing Ramrig's DJH DoG with a Hornby Brit that the models are the same length whereas DoG should be a scale foot longer. DJH seem to have got the longer firebox OK but have shortened the boiler for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 AFAIK the BR1J tender coupled behind 71000 was the only one ever built? It had a steam powered coal pusher. The loco was dubbed a "coal scoffer" by enginemen. And yes, ordinary "(transfer?), numbers until preservation, brass nameplates and a 5A shedplate all her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted December 11, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2011 Yes the 1J was made specifically for the Duke. But then the 1E was one of a kind too I think. The current tender was first converted to a 1E by removing the coal partition. It has subsequently been made more like a 1J with a much enlarged water tank and extended rear raves For those interested here's a shot of the DJH version next to the Golden Arrow resin body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 11, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2011 All this talk about D0G made me go and find a pic of my DJH kit I built in the late 1990's. Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC Jack Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 I suspect that DJH shortened the boiler to fit the Brit chassis. A professional kit builder told me that there is a compromise in the DJH West Country. I have one but I can't see it. Lovely shot of your kit Mick excellent work. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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