43179 Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 Hi Charlie - On my first baby warship I fitted the valances to the chassis as they were intended - nightmare! On this model I've fixed them directly to the body instead . So much quicker and easier to do. I'd take some more pictures but the body is drying at the moment as i've just painted out the incorrect silver window frames tfn Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Look forward to those, let me know if the chasis drops out if you pick it up by the body though! (Yes I realise that probably doesn't help!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted May 20, 2012 Author Share Posted May 20, 2012 Morning! Here's a better shot now with the valances - I've also given the whole bodyshell a coat of Klear so the green has has a bit more depth and gloss to it - this was another thing that originally put me off the model. Hi Charlie - fitting the valances to the body doesn't seem to effect the clips that hold the body/chassis together -so it wont fall apart - but it does mean you have to be a it more careful removing the bodyshell. Tfn Jon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWJ Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I've also given the whole bodyshell a coat of Klear so the green has has a bit more depth and gloss to it - this was another thing that originally put me off the model. That makes a world of difference, Jon. Dapol's paint finish always looks too 'flat' in my eyes. This now has the kind of rich colour you'd get from a Bachmann model. Cheers, Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Evening - well 10 months ago I started this top with a the pair of EWS barrier vehicles - and now its about time I showed what they look like now - almost finished! The original GUVs have vertical window bars printed onto the glazing , but the newspaper conversions had horizontal bars - so out with the T-cut , polish the printed bars off and add new ones from Nickel Silver wire. I made a little jig to glue them at the correct spacing etc - but it was still very very time consuming . The paintwork has been faded in patches using a mix of varnish and NSE white , plus rail white - I worked on the roofs mostly (although I forgot to photo that bit!) as I didn't want to go too mad and ruin my EWS paint job , after the amount of work thats gone into it! How lucky that in the time its taken to build them , we now have a nice class 67 too 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaytee Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Wow.. Hmm, maybe one day, I don't trust myself with transfers not to mention a project like this. Really great stuff this, I've got an NSE GUV which could use similar modifications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) Good Morning - Im back , with another GUV based Project 889202 - a Pullman baggage car: http://www.departmentals.com/photo/889202 First Job is to fill all the windows and the central door shut lines plus some of the bodyside vents. The chalk boards and end strapping is also carefully carved off. On the roof the central rainstrip is removed and the footsteps on the solebar. Sanding everything down has been a long process as it had to be done carefully to avoid damaging the remaing door hinges , bump stops and other small raised detail. Next a guide coat to show up any faults with the filling a couple of areas need a bit more attention a more filling and the bare bits are given a bit more primer to blend them back in (this time i use a high build primer) Now its ready for a coat of red primer before some Pullman Umber tfn Jon Edited May 29, 2015 by 43179 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 Another vehicle was also be getting some Pullman treatment - a Mk3 Sleeper representing 10569 http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=3512 So far the model has been fitted with Shawplan Window frames - and I've made a start reworking the coach ends to include the tail lights and cut out for the ETH jumper. As you can clearly see I've cut one end off the roof too , in order to splice a new section in - this is to omit the large square vent and re position the roof hatch. Note in the photo the roof is on the wrong way round - The end of the vehicle nearest the camera is where the reworked roof section will be, oh, and the coach is just balanced on some spare bogies for the photo, just in case its looking a bit precarious! The GUV is now in red primer , and hopefully you cant see any trace of the former doors or windows tfn Jon 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Afternoon, Time to get some more paint on things: The mk3 has its coat of Pullman cream - Ive also given the gangway doors a coat of primer so they can be sprayed yellow as they should be. Apologies for the dodgy picture - also in the works are a pair of Hornby 67s - One has been renamed and renumbered to 67005 Queens Messenger - Both have had their roofs painted grey , as Hornby forgot to do this!. The missing yellow spots will also be added to the cab roofs - another naughty Hornby error. More on the 67s next time tfn Jon 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig G Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'm glad you resurrected your thread Jon as I've always found your projects not only done to an exceptionally high standard but also of a very interesting subject matter. Keep up the good work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Nice to see you back on RMweb Jon, I always enjoy looking at your projects. Especially class 50s! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Plus one to that! Always fantastic attention to detail, a real inspiration! Though add 10 to the loco class :-D jo Edited June 4, 2015 by Steadfast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Jo, I don't think Jon likes Brush 60s as much as we do! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Good evening - Jo , MR Grimley - my favorite locos generally tend to be ones with fitted ploughs - so that'll include 60s then. They certainly had some of the best names. Some of my favourite lumps of metal aren't on rails though - and the reason for taking a while to post this is I've been away visiting Duxford with mrs43179 - so you're going to have to see some aircraft first: (wont bore you with anymore) The GUV is back and now in pullman umber I've replaced the original buffers with some extended versions from RT models - i think they look quite nice. This vehicle also needs some rubbing plates added. The mk3 is also coming on - in this shot you can see the cut-n-shut to model the roof accurately - these Lima roofs like to curl upwards - that's why my finger is in the photo! I've added etched central locking valves from Hurst Models - as none of the Lima mk3 body shells have them. I have the central locking lights themselves to add later as well The royal 67s now have the yellow spots added to the cab roofs - I couldn't seem to find a transfers listed for these anywhere - so in the end i just sprayed them - using a punch to cut a circle out of masking tape. thats all for now jN Edited June 7, 2015 by 43179 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hi Jon, you are right, the 60s certainly had some great names! Don't worry about posting aircraft photos....Ah the Victor....lovely! The Phantom in 74 Squadron markings that is there is rather nice too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 Hi - so , some more on the mk3 here is rebuilt end of the roof, fully painted. Its often commented that the roof on lima mk3s is too flat , it may be the case , there is definately something about the lima mk3 profile that tends to throw things out when you come to paint it, especially around the cantrail area. I think more of an issue is the roof ribs. Lima coaches have the right number of ribs, but they are spaced too far apart and therefore the 'outer' ribs sit too near the cantrail. On this model ive removed the ribs nearest the cantrail. I think it improves the look of the coach, what do others think? How many people spotted the roof had 11 ribs instead of 13 Another cruel close up: Ive chopped the coach end moulding in order to model the gangway a bit more accurately. The rounded rubber surround on mk3 gangways is very distinctive- its just stuck on with blu tac at the moment so i could photo it. Im still using the door glazing to hold the roof on at the moment , but this will be changed to shawplans glazing later. Thats all for now Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 ... (wont bore you with anymore)...Who's bored? Nice photos. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 Ok one more from Duxford The main reason (for me) to visit has to be the TSR-2 although it always seems a bit penned in by the other aircraft. Displayed between Concorde and the Vulcan does sortof seem appropriate though... Royal class 67s. I like these a lot - but its a real shame Hornby couldn't give them a glossier finish -Matt weathering applied to a matt bodyshell often ends up looking like dust to my eyes - so for the 67 I've just worked on the underframe and roofs. If I had some original formula Kleer I'm sure they would have looked fantastic all shiny! Anyway , i think it looks a little more interesting when a loco has been part cleaned, and makes a nice change in model form. tfn Jon 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 And now for something small and grey and ugly! I must admit I was never a big fan of the real class 33s, but In model form Heljans 33/2 is one of my favorites - the 'Slim jim' must be the best executed of all the 33 sub classes including the retooled 33/0. My 'ugly' comment refers to the mainline freight logos - they never really suited class 33s The plan with this model is to backdate it remove the headlights and turn it into construction sector 33207 and try out the retooled bogies and bufferbeams from the new 33/0 Here is 33207 https://www.flickr.com/photos/33106/13886424987/in/photolist-na6ymt-ryZhrS-szMvcu-sPC6Nc-pqZ9cZ-qCapBY-ammsta-rn42fu-aThbvP-nBc8uE-h1SDyy-hZptaw-ehHNx3-dsxGaY-bAJSDk-o4A6F9-kCH4r3-ke4hVm-qLrAzg-bUHVD4-bVKsnU-fncDzf-jtniT2-jG5gxY-8wYmho-qbam5k-bVzq3F-kPojgV-af8tVs-omJdyR-rAGgkz-rzZfYe-rS9PEK-mMknej-pZgxYa-e9oRaj-9TvU6U-pNnpmy-jV4bhk-jV6D7N-jV4FCx-c6h2eU-oD7BiT-ke4iaQ-8wVmJZ-fecrzj-m6uL2q-oeV13m-rrqrDQ-oYf31D on the real loco the black windscreen surrounds extends below the cabfront beading and stops just short of the handrails - or to put it another way - the Yellow warning panels stops just below the beading. On the Heljan model of course it had to be different - the yellow extends right up behind the handrails and stops on the beading. So out with the filler to remove the high intensity headlight, yellow paint for the warning panel and I then resprayed the lower edge of the black windscreens. here's a close up shot a bit further down the line when i was putting transfers on - I decided the lamp irons had to go as they weren't fitted very well and woudl be changed for new ones later. An etched shedplate from Modelmaster makes it looks nice too. More soon Jon 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 Here is 33207 looking a bit more complete - The bogies from the new 33/0 and the bufferbeams are a straight swap and look rather nice. Plates and Plaques are from Fox - the old logos and numbers simply come off with thinners and a cotton bud. The original Heljan model of 33204 came with the wrong style fuel tanks with the early 'cut out' in them . I've just filled this with a block of plasticard. Next up is a dose of heavy weathering. Jon 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Along with the class 33 I've also been working on a 47328. This is a vitrains model , originally in 47347 in Metal Sectory livery - with a 'flush' cabfront at the no1 end that made it perfect to transform into 328. I'm not sure if you could just apply new sector logos over the existing ones - I didn't attempt it . Instead I removed the original logos with some of the finest wet n dry paper and plenty of Cif mixed with washing up liquid. Vitrains logo printing wont come off with thinners like Bachmanns and Hornbys will - instead you need to use something abrasive , very carefully! I'n a few places the while bodyshell began to show through so i had to do a bit of patch painting. Its fairly easy to feather into the vitrains paintwork though - Ive always found the colors are quite accurate and fairly easy to match with Railmatch or Precision paints. Hopefully you cant see where i had to 'patch up' the paint! I do like the Stratford Plaques on this one . Unfortunately they were short lived on the real loco. The loco has been lowered by milling down part of the chassis where the bogies bear on. Hopefully next time will be a picture of it weathered. TFN Jon 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Nice work Jon. Aggregates... yum! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Your Vi 47 is looking great! I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out. The one good thing about Vitrains is I'm learning how to feather in with Railmatch paints! (Nameplates always seem to be oversized) Cheers Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Good evening Guy - I thought yellow and blue squares might get your attention Here is the 47 so far - I've run out of time today but its nearly finished apart from a very light pass of brake dust/grime in a couple of places on the lower bodysides, and some black streaks will be added in a few places (where I've already added some grime from the raintrips on the cantrail.) The little steps that fit below the bufferbeam will be added last as they're fragile I do love the transformation you get with a vitrains 47 when all the bits go on Jon 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 A little detail I almost forgot - The 'new' bogies from the Heljan 33/0 have a different (older style) speedo cable , that is wrong for 33207 as I'm modelling it. Luckily I still have the original sideframes with the correct rectangular speedo - and its a straight swap , as the holes for the mounting pins are identical on the new bogies. now its ready for weathering .. Jon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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