kintbury jon Posted December 31, 2011 Author Share Posted December 31, 2011 Cheers for the ideas. I may go for the 73 option, they can be picked up cheaply enough with the body having resale value. I may test put the power of a 73 / DMU hauling three made up Bratchell coaches before purchasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 OK things have changed somewhat but some progress... The 150 kits were not as good as i'd hoped and did not match the Bratchell centre car sides at all. Instead, I thought sod it and purchased two Bachmann 150's in Arriva livery for a good price. They have just arrived and I have done some dismantling to see what can be done with them. Picking out the glazing out of the DMSL, i'm delighted to see that the glazing fits into the Bratchell body exactly. I think that the bodies look good together, the main difference being the difference in the sliding door windows (correct for the 150 though the 455 had smaller windows). I have two motor coaches at the moment but only require one. By luck a Lima mark 2 chassis seems to fit well but would require bogies and various mods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWJ Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Starting to look like a 4-car EMU, Jon, and a good bit of luck with those windows! You could probably sell your spare chassis on Ebay for a decent price; that's what I intend to do with mine. As for your Lima chassis, I'm sure this will be fine once the correct 'motor' bogies and underframe equipment have ben fitted. If you do run into difficulty, a simple chassis could be made from a sheet of thick plastic. Cheers, Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'm planning to use the Lima chassis for the intermediate trailer coach. I'll need to ge hold of some suitable bogies for it though. Class 156 trailer bogies would do - they may be available as spares though as it's now a Hornby product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Couldn't resist trying it out. Formation is: 1) Standard class 150 Dummy car (lighting is connected to the motor coach) 2) 150 motor coach with Bratchell bodyshell on top 3) Lima chassis with Bratchell bodyshell on top (taped together!) 4) Standard class 150 Dummy car (no lighting) Lots to go and I will need 6 extra pieces of glazing. I may end up not glazing one side of the motor coach until I source them (though it will be a while before I get to that stage!) MOV05139.MPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I think that the bodies look good together, the main difference being the difference in the sliding door windows (correct for the 150 though the 455 had smaller windows). If you model (45)5920 that one has the deeper windows on all the doors, 5918 has deeper windows on the vestibule (cab) doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Thanks for that. I'm going to use one of Jim SW 455 kits and use etches to cover over the larger windows. A least I know two units not to number it to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I'm planning to use the Lima chassis for the intermediate trailer coach. I'll need to ge hold of some suitable bogies for it though. Class 156 trailer bogies would do - they may be available as spares though as it's now a Hornby product. The power car bogies are quite different to the other trailer coaches, the nearest 'close' approximation being the Class 158/Mk.3 DVT bogies; not an exact match, but they would fool most people having the correct twin springs per axlebox and a similar frame shape. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 I bought a set of Bratchell motor bogie frames for the motor coach. Thanks for letting me know though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 EDITED: Sorry about the duplicate post; I was suffering a minor connection problem at the time. Interestingly, this post has an earlier time than the 'earlier' post above! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I like this, Jon. I have been thinking along the same lines, having a spare 150 myself. What I have been toying with is to reduce that massive chassis weight on the motor coach, perhaps cutting it down to around one quarter of the chassis length. Will have to have a closer look. I like this, Jon. I have been thinking along the same lines, having a spare 150 myself. What I have been toying with is to reduce that massive chassis weight on the motor coach, perhaps cutting it down to around one quarter of the chassis length. Will have to have a closer look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 5, 2012 Author Share Posted January 5, 2012 Aah but it's one less interior that I have to sort out! I'm using the two trailer interiors for the driving coaches but will need to make up an extra one for the intermediate trailer. Interesting to see that Bachmann made a mess of the seating as it's 3+3 instead of 2+3. The seating bay nearest the cab will also need rotating 90 degress though that's all way down my list at the moment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I'm sure you will be able to get some seating units to suit, or adapt the existing ones. It shouldn't be too hard to get extras if you do choose to shorten the chassis block. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 Right, a little progress today with one of the DTSOs. Thanks to Jim SW, I have a pack of parts to detail the unit. As some of you may have noticed the class 150 has different sized doors to the 455, I am using the etched doors to plate over the Bachmann doors. First picture shows the filed down parts: And the second photo shows the etched doors on top. (Spot the place where I slipped with my filing to the right of the single door!) Very happy with the outcome. Note that the Arriva logos have beeen removed, they come of very easily by gently scratching with a flat edge from a knife. Progress will be slow now as work starts to take over. Due to the success of selling the unwanted parts from the two 150's. I have bought a third 150 (through the forum) and hope to make use of the trailer chassis, interior plus some of the glazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Third 150 arrived today. Have raided a few bits off it already! The trailer chassis is going to go with one of the Bratchell TSO bodies. Have removed a fair chunk of the underframe parts and think it looks a lot better. Have got to the stage where i'm not sure which other bits to remove! Am not worried if a few bits are in the wring place but would like a reasonable representation of the 455 chassis. Have got plenty of side photos of the MSO, does anyone have any close up photos of the TSO or DTSO? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Third 150 arrived today. Have raided a few bits off it already! The trailer chassis is going to go with one of the Bratchell TSO bodies. Have removed a fair chunk of the underframe parts and think it looks a lot better. Have got to the stage where i'm not sure which other bits to remove! Am not worried if a few bits are in the wring place but would like a reasonable representation of the 455 chassis. Have got plenty of side photos of the MSO, does anyone have any close up photos of the TSO or DTSO? Hi, These 2 pics are both from the DTSO. Hope they help. Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 Very helpful - thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Very little done but I guess it might be ready for painting time. Both DTSOs are complete. Doors have been replaced and the window in the front door has been inserted. Before I paint though I need to add the door buttons as 455's have them on both sides of the doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 This project had come to a halt as i've been dabbling in a bit of French n-gauge, but this weekend I did a bit of painting. Have sprayed the bodies white and also the blue. The masking for the blue isn't good so i'll need to touch various bits with white paint. I think i'll do it at the end after the red and grey stripes have been added (by hand). Painting has always been a weakness of mine but hopefully it will look a bit better when sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWJ Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Hi Jon, Looking good! Wish I'd done one of these instead of a 325... If it's not too late, there are still some Class 150 details remaining on the lower bodyside (I think they are fuel filler caps etc.) which you might want to remove depending on the level of detail you'd like to achieve. Cheers, Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Thanks for that. I had filled in a few bits but missed these! I do wonder whethe I haven't gone low enough (in terms of height) with the blue but will see how it all ends up when I apply the red and grey. I plan to hand paint the red and grey stripes as I have found the transfers more problematical (and expensive!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Splendid idea !! This an excellent source of SR emu u/frame components - http://www.southernp...ml/emuparts.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted March 21, 2012 Author Share Posted March 21, 2012 Addition of red and grey stripes. I do realise that they should be curved - may try and create this when I tidy up the messy bits. Quite pleased at the moment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 22, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2012 First repaints had angled stripes so don't worry about the curves or lack thereof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGrange Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Thats good, will be interesting to see how you get on with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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