andytrains Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Madness or Way Out? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155230938234?hash=item24247c247a:g:FDIAAOSwzaJhIhuD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2022 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115453401326?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=7njDd0E0TKO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=mAE25Fz1QpK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Our friends Rocket Railways... it looks about as old as The Rocket... It's well worth checking the regulations on sale of second hand electrical equipment... makes for interesting reading 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, John Besley said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115453401326?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=7njDd0E0TKO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=mAE25Fz1QpK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Our friends Rocket Railways... it looks about as old as The Rocket... It's well worth checking the regulations on sale of second hand electrical equipment... makes for interesting reading As a seller wouldn't you at least clean it up a bit! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2022 ...and as a former qualified electrical safety and PAT tester I would not touch it with a well insulated twenty foot barge pole! 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, John M Upton said: ...and as a former qualified electrical safety and PAT tester I would not touch it with a well insulated twenty foot barge pole! Its ok, its firmly on the 12v side of things, no mains connection. Designed to give fine speed control for the early 12v Triang battery boxes. Its ideal as "set dressing" for the sort of collectors layout with grey "standard" Triang track. Not connected to anything and a more modern controller doing the work! You would think that a quick going over with a soft brush would have removed the excess grot, leaving a decent patina of age... Edited November 13, 2022 by Hroth 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, andytrains said: Madness or Way Out? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155230938234?hash=item24247c247a:g:FDIAAOSwzaJhIhuD Amazing what you can swipe on the way out of the car boot parking area. I remember a similar sign at art college had been altered to read Way Out Man! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, John M Upton said: ...and as a former qualified electrical safety and PAT tester I would not touch it with a well insulated twenty foot barge pole! As a fire alarm engineer the only reason I'd touch one as old as that is to gut it and build a retro controller with new parts (if I was totaly bored and nothing better to do) ... I've asked RR if it has a plug and lead to see what their response is 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, John M Upton said: ...and as a former qualified electrical safety and PAT tester I would not touch it with a well insulated twenty foot barge pole! As @Hroth has pointed out, it's 12V, but I do recall that if you are a business and selling secondhand mains items, you may be required to have them PAT tested. I know that we used to have to have all 110v power tools tested if we were using them on site or any employee was using them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2022 I guess that if that is what they go for, then fair enough, but oooo that postage cost. Is he sending it from Mars? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334547629962?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=LJMOQvC5Siq&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=oMX1GZ5VQyG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ikcdab said: I guess that if that is what they go for, then fair enough, but oooo that postage cost. Is he sending it from Mars? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334547629962?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=LJMOQvC5Siq&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=oMX1GZ5VQyG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Delivered by armoured car complete with outriders and close protection squad... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40152 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Paul H Vigor said: Where did this word 'bundle' come from? A bundle of rolling stock? I think not! Is it another creeping Americanism, akin to a ‘pack’ of bleach that I bought recently? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, John Besley said: As a fire alarm engineer the only reason I'd touch one as old as that is to gut it and build a retro controller with new parts (if I was totaly bored and nothing better to do) ... I've asked RR if it has a plug and lead to see what their response is It's no more dangerous than the electrics on my 70 year old motorcycles, if properly maintained, but other than a curiosity to complete your collection, why bother. Old Tri-ang trains still run better with a modern controller. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, MrWolf said: It's no more dangerous than the electrics on my 70 year old motorcycles, if properly maintained, but other than a curiosity to complete your collection, why bother. Old Tri-ang trains still run better with a modern controller. but the motorbike is 12v, you’d probably just get a tingle if it goes wrong, that thing could potentially kill you if you plugged it into the mains! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, 40152 said: Is it another creeping Americanism, akin to a ‘pack’ of bleach that I bought recently? I wouldn't mind if we got Americanisms such as cheap petrol, higher wages, better restaurants and (generally) friendlier people. But we get corporate jargon, gangsta rap and victim culture instead. 1 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, John M Upton said: ...and as a former qualified electrical safety and PAT tester I would not touch it with a well insulated twenty foot barge pole! Barge poles are normally 12ft! Hat, coat, door.......................🤣 Edited November 13, 2022 by andytrains 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, big jim said: but the motorbike is 12v, you’d probably just get a tingle if it goes wrong, that thing could potentially kill you if you plugged it into the mains! I was under the impression that we had already established it's a 12v input control box fed from a dry battery pack or mains transformer, in the way that a modern Gaugemaster Combi functions? My bikes are all 6v on the battery side. The ignition is run by a magneto at 10-20,000 volts, it's only about 0.3A, so it won't kill you, but it's not funny either, unless of course it happens to someone else! Edited November 13, 2022 by MrWolf 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, MrWolf said: I was under the impression that we had already established it's a 12v input control box fed from a dry battery pack or mains transformer, in the way that a modern Gaugemaster Combi functions? ah right. Didn’t spot that! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, MrWolf said: I wouldn't mind if we got Americanisms such as cheap petrol, higher wages, better restaurants and (generally) friendlier people. But we get corporate jargon, gangsta rap and victim culture instead. They had - Ronald Regan, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash we had Liz Truss, no hope and no cash 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, big jim said: but the motorbike is 12v, you’d probably just get a tingle if it goes wrong, that thing could potentially kill you if you plugged it into the mains! If you actually managed to connect it directly to the mains, you'd deserve your Darwin Award! Just now, andytrains said: Barge poles are normally 12ft! Hat, coat, door....................... Ours were painted with 12" bands to judge water depth. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, big jim said: ah right. Didn’t spot that! Nor me at first, @Hroth the historian knew what it was. It looked like something that my grandfather "forgot" to give back to Marconi in 1945 to me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, John Besley said: They had - Ronald Regan, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash we had Liz Truss, no hope and no cash They also have Stevie Wonder, we are in a state of No Wonder. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hroth said: If you actually managed to connect it directly to the mains, you'd deserve your Darwin Award! someone would give it a go! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Twenty years before the daft experiments on Sam's trains my friend soldered some thin two core speaker cable to the motor of a Lima diesel shunter and connected a plug to the other end with wire wrapped around the fuse holder. (This was pre RCD cutouts in houses) He laid some tracks across the kitchen lino and flicked the switch. The shunter shot off like a rocket, literally, with sparks flying, dragging the cable behind it until it smashed into the kitchen doorstep. That was the end of that experiment. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Twenty years before the daft experiments on Sam's trains my friend soldered some thin two core speaker cable to the motor of a Lima diesel shunter and connected a plug to the other end with wire wrapped around the fuse holder. (This was pre RCD cutouts in houses) He laid some tracks across the kitchen lino and flicked the switch. The shunter shot off like a rocket, literally, with sparks flying, dragging the cable behind it until it smashed into the kitchen doorstep. That was the end of that experiment. Eeep! I'm surprised it got anywhere before the armature exploded in red hot fragments, OR the speaker cable melted! Edited November 13, 2022 by Hroth 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, John Besley said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115453401326?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=7njDd0E0TKO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=mAE25Fz1QpK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Our friends Rocket Railways... it looks about as old as The Rocket... It's well worth checking the regulations on sale of second hand electrical equipment... makes for interesting reading I've got oneof them in a box, but mine's not in such good condition! I don't the rules on second hand electrical equipment apply to these, low voltage in and out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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