jonathan452 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 That may be one of the short-lived "Jumbo trains" from the mid-80s, which if I remember correctly did run as a shorter train west of Plymouth. Just found this as a further illustrative example-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcjcihlonBE&feature=endscreen&NR=1 I think it is also fair to say from memory that the "Jumbo trains" were rather scratch formed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Not Captain Kernow Posted August 7, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2012 Portions were certainly still being detached / attached at Plymouth in 1986. I can be sure of this because on our return from cycling from Exeter to Canterbury and back we joined a train for Camborne at Exeter St Davids and were assured our bikes would be fine in the spacious BG at the rear. During the journey while sat at Plymouth we watched the BG and some coaches pass where we were sat on the train complete with our bikes! We had to dash across to retrieve them and then try and get them squeezed in to the BSK on our train which was packed almost to the ceiling with mail bags. A helpful Royal Mail employee assisted us, despite about 10 other staff standing around telling him he should not be helping us and the union would not like it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 More "Cornish locals" this time a resplendent 50007 Sir Edward Elgar at Hayle with the 15.55 from Plymouth. This was before the orange cantrail stripe was added. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovedeath Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I think I am correct in saying this is Dr Death? I took this photo of him years ago at Cockwood Harbour !! http://www.rmweb.co....43730-dr-death/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Excellent stuff, Just need some GUVs now. If it is a shorter formation you are looking for the 06.35 Bristol - Plymouth was a short train that ran for many years. It was formed of about 4 or 5 Mk1s with, I believe, booked tail traffic of a BG or GUV or two, it was also used to sweep up any late running parcel vans for the west that missed connections earlier in the night, so could load heavier. I am not sure of the whole diagram, but I believe the stock also worked the 13.54 Penzance - Bristol, similarly with tail traffic. Here are some pictures taken at Exeter St. Davids Sorry for the poor quality on a rainy October day, 50044 is working 06.35 Bristol - Plymouth, there is an additional BG front, and 2 GUVs rear, 31/10/83. On the same rainy day the 07.10 from Barnstaple has arrived behind 33029, the train is 4 Mk1s, in the distance it looks like a GUV has been detached from the rear, 31/10/83. The 06.35 is shown again in July 1985 with 50047 in charge, still formed of Mk1s but partly hidden by 50014 which will work the 08.11 to Waterloo, 17/7/85. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted August 16, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2012 Picked up a bit late on this, but only scanned it yesterday... Don't know if this was a set with detached portion, but from Jan 1985, Little Bedwyn area, my notes say it was a Penzance-Paddington service. loco FO FO R?? TSO TSO TSO TSO BG then two non-air-con TSO, possibly a BFK and another BG [pic snipped] Just found this as a further illustrative example-: [pic snipped] Seeing these photos reminded me how often the 1st class coaches on the Paddington - Plymouth/Penzance trains were Mk2a/b/c with opening windows (either BFK alone or BFK + FK) whereas the 2nd class were air-cons. And the BFK is the one MK2a Bachmann hasn't yet done a rerun of in Blue/Grey... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted August 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2012 An interesting formation was the experimental XP64 set that was used in the late 70s/early 80s (IIRC) on the daily 1705(?) Plymouth>Cardiff service with a 47 on. I remember seeing it every day on late turn. Never really bothered with it and now wish that I had taken some snaps! Anybody got any? It's one that I would like to model, using 'Southern Pride' kits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Saturday 31 August 1985 (not counting Wat - Exe or HST services)Exeter (11.38 - 11.54)1A43 47575: 18608, 18958, 17033, 18961, 18733, 18704, 18615, 7196, 17042, 18408, 189191C23 50041: 9467, 5797, 5471, 5400, 6616, 5847, 5812, 13572, 9466Dawlish (12.13 - 12.24)1A48 50032: 18945, 18928, 18809, 13443, 17062, 18603, 18926, 18764Exeter (12.38 - 16.00)1V67 45105: 92194, 3293, 3302, 3194, 3241, 1972, 5957, 5894, 5816, 59301A50 47626: 18925, 18631, 18911, 35471, 13318, 18794, 18971, 93083, 931461E22 47102: 35316, 4983, 5000, 4999, 4875, 4861, 4993, 7189, 7232, 4873, 50041C29 47140: 18622, 18593, 13438, 17064, 18734, 24834, 187261V10 33011, 33050: 3738, 18942, 4389, 3993, 3845, 35010, 13401, 3748, 39181V71 45121: 92114, 5428, 5421, 5420, 5418, 5604, 6409, 6527, 31931E64 47232, 35183, 7160, 5037, 3833, 4941, 4864, 5044, 5034, 4965, 7215, 354821M83 50013: 92022, 5500, 6405, 5678, 5881, 5312, 3418, 5523, 6524, 6414, 30851V73 47338: 35339, 7188, 4945, 4973, 4880, 4947, 4963, 4933, 7187, 352811B36 47567: 18933, 18597, 18609, 18619, 17060, 13412, 19016, 18375, 18601, 18604, 187231C34 50034: 9478, 5809, 3408, 13566, 6611, 5785, 5695, 13567, 920411O86 47551: 4392, 3837, 4033, 3919, 21274, 21273, 18920, 189061A59 50023: 92063, 17132, 5443, 5445, 3301, 5855, 5811, 5865, 5619, 1945, 3281, 13477, 920591V76 50019: 3124, 5798, 5986, 5470, 1816, 13595, 5254, 6052, 5848, 922121A61 50044: 5667, 5860, 5774, 13610, 1881, 5734, 5494, 5524, 920811V80 45110: 9435, 5042, 5331, 5283, 6511, 13584, 13460, 13469, 13452, 94191M45 47418: 3127, 5933, 5830, 5817, 1860, 13593, 5770, 5550, 6123, 921341V81 47627: 13473, 13511, 13215, 17118, 13512, 3393, 13530, 134791A64 50041: 9466, 13572, 5812, 5847, 6616, 5400, 5471, 5797, 94671A69 47140: 18726, 24834, 18734, 17064, 13438, 18593, 186222B78 33014: 18709, 7075, 35197, 18611, 187441C46 50047: 9469, 5949, 3363, 13577, 6618, 5871, 5707, 13596, 94741M28 45105: 5930, 5816, 5894, 5957, 1972, 3241, 3194, 3302, 3293, 92194Dawlish (16.12 - 16.45)1V85 relief 1V32 45003: 5008, 4961, 4946, 4966, 35465, 4996, 4979, 49301V85 47480: 9426, 13471, 13563, 13588, 13525, 6520, 5303, 5332, 94291M65 47551: 3193, 6527, 6409, 5604, 5418, 5420, 5421, 5428, 92114Exeter (17.00 - 17.20)1A79 47468: 92041, 13567, 5695, 5785, 6611, 13566, 3408, 5809, 94781E32 45121: 9419, 13452, 13469, 13460, 13584, 6511, 5283, 5331, 5042, 94351C51 50001: 84024, 7224, 3766, 5031, 5030, 5041, 5043, 4900, 50251V86 50008: 35336, 7996, 7220, 13314, 18626, 18711, 18804 (25 mins late)Newton Abbot (17.45 - 18.49)1C52 50038: 6037, 5751, 6160, 5758, 17097, 3405, 6113, 5862, 5859, 1671, 3410, 13561, 9205445003 etc ECS2C49 50047: 9474, 13596, 5707, 5871, 6618, 13577, 3363, 5949, 946947306: 80591, 93164, 93212, 93256, 93188, 93366, 93215, 84431, 846111A84 50048: 18805, 18982, 18686, 7210, 13435, 35188, 18882, 18612, 189271V88 50029: 92239, 6526, 5368, 3426, 5376, 5545, 52971M82 45110: 3375, 1657, 13534, 13531, 13539, 17144, 55831A43 10.45 Paignton - Paddington1C23 09.07 Paddington - Paignton1A48 11.45 Paignton - Paddington1V67 07.59 Nottingham - Paignton1A50 09.32 Penzance - Paddington1E22 10.05 Newquay - Newcastle1C29 10.18 Paddington - Paignton1V10 09.14 Brighton - Penzance1V71 08.20 Liverpool - Paignton1E64 09.55 Penzance - Leeds1M83 10.15 Penzance - Liverpool1V73 08.38 Manchester - Newquay1B36 13.00 Paignton - Swansea1C34 11.10 Paddington - Paignton1O86 10.50 Penzance - Brighton1A59 11.05 Penzance - Paddington1V76 09.36 Liverpool - Penzance1A61 11.35 Newquay - Paddington1V80 08.20 Bradford - Paignton1M45 11.32 Penzance - Manchester1V81 09.17 Leeds - Penzance1A64 13.55 Paignton - Paddington1A69 14.48 Paignton - Paddington2B78 16.05 Exeter - Barnstaple1C46 13.17 Paddington - Paignton1M28 15.04 Paignton - Nottingham1V32 10.30 York - Plymouth1V85 09.23 Newcastle - Penzance1M65 16.08 Paignton - Liverpool1A79 16.23 Paignton - Oxford1E32 16.43 Paignton - Leeds1C51 14.15 Paddington - Paignton1V86 13.44 Birmingham NS - Paignton1C52 14.27 Paddington - Penzance2C49 17.45 Paignton - Exeter1A84 15.40 Penzance - Paddington1V88 13.25 Manchester - Paignton1M82 16.00 Penzance - Derby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Wow, what a day !! what we have lost interest wise as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Looking through the rakes it is interesting (for me) to see how many had a considerable amount of first class coaches. Obviously these would have been declassified, remember those white "for the use of second class passengers" labels? There is only one rake of completely first class stock but 1V81 does include a Mk2f FO in the mix of Mk2a/b/c FK coaches and a dual braked Mk1 FK! 1M82 is virtually all first class with only the buffet and a Mk2c TSO for a bit of interest. The additional holiday trains are still Mk1 stock and whilst the majority of the traction is Class 45, 47 and 50 it is pleasing to note no heat Class 47s still in use. I dare any model railway group to make a layout with all these trains represented. Aside from the vast amount of space, time and cost; one of the problems is the same as we have on modelling Kirkhill in 1980 - all the public would notice is lines and lines of blue and grey stock and not appreciate the subtle differences shown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggesford box Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I know one day a coach turned up on the 0300 Exeter - Barnstaple mails/0713 Barnstaple - Exeter mixed that seemed to be neither a MK1 or a MK2, this would have been 1979/81. I cannot remember what classification of coach it was but can only assume at this distance in time that it must have been one of the XP64 coaches. My one abiding memory if it serves to prove or disprove this is that it had door mats inset into the floor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossfell5 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Saturday 31 August 1985 (not counting Wat - Exe or HST services) Exeter 1A43 47575: 18608, 18958, 17033, 18961, 18733, 18704, 18615, 7196, 17042, 18408, 18919 1C23 50041: 9467, 5797, 5471, 5400, 6616, 5847, 5812, 13572, 9466 Dawlish 1A48 50032: 18945, 18928, 18809, 13443, 17062, 18603, 18926, 18764 Exeter 1V67 45105: 92194, 3293, 3302, 3194, 3241, 1972, 5957, 5894, 5816, 5930 1A50 47626: 18925, 18631, 18911, 35471, 13318, 18794, 18971, 93083, 93146 1E22 47102: 35316, 4983, 5000, 4999, 4875, 4861, 4993, 7189, 7232, 4873, 5004 1C29 47140: 18622, 18593, 13438, 17064, 18734, 24834, 18726 1V10 33011, 33050: 3738, 18942, 4389, 3993, 3845, 35010, 13401, 3748, 3918 1V71 45121: 92114, 5428, 5421, 5420, 5418, 5604, 6409, 6527, 3193 1E64 47232, 35183, 7160, 5037, 3833, 4941, 4864, 5044, 5034, 4965, 7215, 35482 1M83 50013: 92022, 5500, 6405, 5678, 5881, 5312, 3418, 5523, 6524, 6414, 3085 1V73 47338: 35339, 7188, 4945, 4973, 4880, 4947, 4963, 4933, 7187, 35281 1B36 47567: 18933, 18597, 18609, 18619, 17060, 13412, 19016, 18375, 18601, 18604, 18723 1C34 50034: 9478, 5809, 3408, 13566, 6611, 5785, 5695, 13567, 92041 1O86 47551: 4392, 3837, 4033, 3919, 21274, 21273, 18920, 18906 1A59 50023: 92063, 17132, 5443, 5445, 3301, 5855, 5811, 5865, 5619, 1945, 3281, 13477, 92059 1V76 50019: 3124, 5798, 5986, 5470, 1816, 13595, 5254, 6052, 5848, 92212 1A61 50044: 5667, 5860, 5774, 13610, 1881, 5734, 5494, 5524, 92081 1V80 45110: 9435, 5042, 5331, 5283, 6511, 13584, 13460, 13469, 13452, 9419 1M45 47418: 3127, 5933, 5830, 5817, 1860, 13593, 5770, 5550, 5123, 92134 1V81 47627: 13473, 13511, 13215, 17118, 13512, 3393, 13530, 13479 1A64 50041: 9466, 13572, 5812, 5847, 6616, 5400, 5471, 5797, 9467 1A69 47140: 18726, 24834, 18734, 17064, 13438, 18593, 18622 2B78 33014: 18709, 7075, 35197, 18611, 18744 1C46 50047: 9469, 5949, 3363, 13577, 6618, 5871, 5707, 13596, 9474 1M28 45105: 5930, 5816, 5894, 5957, 1972, 3241, 3194, 3302, 3293, 92194 1V85 relief 45003: 5008, 4961, 4946, 4966, 35465, 4996, 4979, 4930 1V85 47480: 9426, 13471, 13563, 13588, 13525, 6520, 5303, 5332, 9429 1M65 47551: 3193, 6527, 6409, 5604, 5418, 5420, 5421, 5428, 92114 1A79 47468: 92041, 13567, 5695, 5785, 6611, 13566, 3408, 5809, 9478 1E32 45121: 9419, 13452, 13469, 13460, 13584, 6511, 5283, 5331, 5042, 9435 1C51 50001: 84024, 7224, 3766, 5031, 5030, 5041, 5043, 4900, 5025 1V86 50008: 35336, 7996, 7220, 13314, 18626, 18711, 18804 Newton Abbot 1C52 50038: 6037, 5751, 6160, 5758, 17097, 3405, 6113, 5862, 5859, 1671, 3410, 13561, 92054 45003 etc ECS 2C49 50047: 9474, 13596, 5707, 5871, 6618, 13577, 3363, 5949, 9469 47306: 80591, 93164, 93212, 93256, 93188, 93366, 93215, 84431, 84611 1A84 50048: 18805, 18982, 18686, 7210, 13435, 35188, 18882, 18612, 18927 1V88 50029: 92239, 6526, 5368, 3426, 5376, 5545, 5297 1M82 45110: 3375, 1657, 13534, 13531, 13539, 17144, 5583 1A43 10.45 Paignton - Paddington 1C23 09.07 Paddington - Paignton 1A48 11.45 Paignton - Paddington 1V67 07.59 Nottingham - Paignton 1A50 09.32 Penzance - Paddington 1E22 10.05 Newquay - Newcastle 1C29 10.18 Paddington - Paignton 1V10 09.14 Brighton - Penzance 1V71 08.20 Liverpool - Paignton 1E64 09.55 Penzance - Leeds 1M83 10.15 Penzance - Liverpool 1V73 08.38 Manchester - Newquay 1B36 13.00 Paignton - Swansea 1C34 11.10 Paddington - Paignton 1O86 10.50 Penzance - Brighton 1A59 11.05 Penzance - Paddington 1V76 09.36 Liverpool - Penzance 1A61 11.35 Newquay - Paddington 1V80 08.20 Bradford - Paignton 1M45 11.32 Penzance - Manchester 1V81 09.17 Leeds - Penzance 1A64 13.55 Paignton - Paddington 1A69 14.48 Paignton - Paddington 2B78 16.05 Exeter - Barnstaple 1C46 13.17 Paddington - Paignton 1M28 15.04 Paignton - Nottingham 1V85 09.23 Newcastle - Penzance 1M65 16.08 Paignton - Liverpool 1A79 16.23 Paignton - Oxford 1E32 16.43 Paignton - Leeds 1C51 14.15 Paddington - Paignton 1V86 13.44 Birmingham NS - Paignton 1C52 14.27 Paddington - Penzance 2C49 17.45 Paignton - Exeter 1A84 15.40 Penzance - Paddington 1V88 13.25 Manchester - Paignton 1M82 16.00 Penzance - Derby For the record 1V85 Relief was 1030 York - Plymouth 1V32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 25, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2012 1V10 33011, 33050: 3738, 18942, 4389, 3993, 3845, 35010, 13401, 3748, 3918 That has inadvertently provided a partial answer to a long-standing query of my own. I have been seeking formations of the coaching stock used on this service and while the specific query related to the out-and-back Brighton - Exeter set which was berthed in Hove yard overnight this information has been very helpful. Thank you. In case anyone suggests two Cromptons is super-power for load 9 they were restricted to load 8 west of Salisbury when working singly due to the banks at Honiton (1:80 against down trains) and Exeter (1:37 against up trains). It was easier to keep the two locos paired when they worked beyond Exeter though they were often replaced with WR motive power there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 For the record 1V85 Relief was 1030 York - Plymouth 1V32 Thanks for that. ...It was easier to keep the two locos paired when they worked beyond Exeter though they were often replaced with WR motive power there. The two 33s were removed at Exeter with 50002 taking the train forward. Likewise 47551 was removed at Exeter from 1O86 and the two 33s were added for the journey back to Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 25, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2012 The two 33s were removed at Exeter with 50002 taking the train forward. Likewise 47551 was removed at Exeter from 1O86 and the two 33s were added for the journey back to Brighton. Again that was quite normal. A Brighton crew worked the train to Salisbury where they were relieved by Salisbury men whose duty was Exeter and back with the same loco(s). By 1985 the "Brighton" crew might have been borrowed from somewhere else. There was one year when the service was formed 47/7 and Mk2 stock off the Waterloo roster which worked e.c.s to and from Brighton with London men. The full listing for Exeter shows just how things have changed. I spent a few summer Saturdays on St. Davids and the sea wall around that time and until the early 90s. The arrival of "HSTs on everything and units on everything else" more or less killed off the interest even if we still got the occasional loco-hauled working and then the DVT sets. In some ways the replacement by Sprinters of the dank, festering and creaking Mk1 rake used for the Barnstaple duty was a good thing but it was another nail in the coffin of character. I'm sure all who witnessed the transition from steam to diesel in the area some 25 years before will have similar feelings about that change. Spotters are relatively rare on St. Davids now where once there would have been upwards of 50 there for a summer Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 How times have changed. You would need a large fiddle yard to hold all the stock for even just a couple of hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggesford box Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Bit late in the day but regarding Riverciders comment about a GUV being detached from the rear of the 0710 from Barnstaple, it might be the returning paper van. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
demufounder Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 In case anyone suggests two Cromptons is super-power for load 9 they were restricted to load 8 west of Salisbury when working singly due to the banks at Honiton (1:80 against down trains) and Exeter (1:37 against up trains). Ah so that might explain 33010 and 50024, working in tandem, on the load 9 12.20 Exeter to Waterloo on 22 January 1983. I recall that the 50 would assist the 33 with getting away from stations and on uphill grades but for the rest of the time it just idled. 33018 was not so lucky on 12 November 1983 as it had to cope with load 9 alone on the 12.20 Exeter. From a performance point of view the use of a 33 and 50 allowed that train to run from Gillingham to Tisbury, including the 1 in 100 climb to Semley from a standing start, in under 9 minutes start to stop whereas the solo 33 was over 2 and a half minutes slower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 In case anyone suggests two Cromptons is super-power for load 9 they were restricted to load 8 west of Salisbury when working singly due to the banks at Honiton (1:80 against down trains) and Exeter (1:37 against up trains). It was easier to keep the two locos paired when they worked beyond Exeter though they were often replaced with WR motive power there. I seem to recall hearing that if a single class 33 had to work with load 9 the ETH would be switched off/isolated to get a train up the bank to Exeter Central. I don't know how true that was, or if it is even practical to do so? A single 33 was permitted to take 360 tonnes up the bank unassisted, so load 9 would be touch and go. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2012 I seem to recall hearing that if a single class 33 had to work with load 9 the ETH would be switched off/isolated to get a train up the bank to Exeter Central. I don't know how true that was, or if it is even practical to do so? A single 33 was permitted to take 360 tonnes up the bank unassisted, so load 9 would be touch and go. cheers The Drivers - or some of them at any rate - used to turn off the ETH when getting away from some stations, especially on a rising gradient! I was quite amused the first time I saw it done but it did help them keep time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted September 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2012 We regularly went to Cornwall on a Summer Saturday train which had run in various guises for years. It used to be around 8am from Wolverhampton HL just after electrification, getting to New St via the Grand Junction, to depart about 0840. It returned from Penzance at about 1600 IIRC. In the early 1970s the stock included some of the oldest maroon liveried Mk1 coaches around, but in later years it graduated to West Coast sets, first starting from Derby and then from Milton Keynes using a Manchester Pullman set. All but the last coach was declassified, that one becoming known as the "Staff Coach" because it was almost exclusively used by BR Management Grades going on holiday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
demufounder Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 A single 33 was permitted to take 360 tonnes up the bank unassisted, so load 9 would be touch and go. A typical 9 coach Waterloo rake worked out at about 287 tons empty and you'd then need to factor in the number of passengers. On the day I mentioned before it was a standard rake about a third full so an estimated trailing load of 300 tons (I've no idea whether the ETH was on or off). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2012 A typical 9 coach Waterloo rake worked out at about 287 tons empty and you'd then need to factor in the number of passengers. On the day I mentioned before it was a standard rake about a third full so an estimated trailing load of 300 tons (I've no idea whether the ETH was on or off). Factor in the rail conditions as well. 287t tare / 300t full on a dry rail might just work but not if it were damp. Exeter tunnel isn't one of the wettest around but finding a damp spot in there can still cause a loco under full power to suddenly lose all grip with potentially disastrous consequences. That is where a shove from the back becomes more helpful than two "up front" as the banker may retain its adhesion being somewhat farther back at the moment of slip. Load 9 certainly went up the bank behind single 33s on many occasions but not without due consideration. A well-loaded summer Saturday train could be above 360t gross for example. I have even seen the driver insist on the train being stopped far enough back along the platform at St. Davids to gain enough speed for a run at the bank - having also due regard for the sharp curve as well. I'm sure those rails have been straightened a little by one or two SR men over the years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterbournecm Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Saturday 31 August 1985 (not counting Wat - Exe or HST services) Exeter (11.38 - 11.54) 1A43 47575: 18608, 18958, 17033, 18961, 18733, 18704, 18615, 7196, 17042, 18408, 18919 1C23 50041: 9467, 5797, 5471, 5400, 6616, 5847, 5812, 13572, 9466 Dawlish (12.13 - 12.24) 1A48 50032: 18945, 18928, 18809, 13443, 17062, 18603, 18926, 18764 Exeter (12.38 - 17.00) 1V67 45105: 92194, 3293, 3302, 3194, 3241, 1972, 5957, 5894, 5816, 5930 1A50 47626: 18925, 18631, 18911, 35471, 13318, 18794, 18971, 93083, 93146 1E22 47102: 35316, 4983, 5000, 4999, 4875, 4861, 4993, 7189, 7232, 4873, 5004 1C29 47140: 18622, 18593, 13438, 17064, 18734, 24834, 18726 1V10 33011, 33050: 3738, 18942, 4389, 3993, 3845, 35010, 13401, 3748, 3918 1V71 45121: 92114, 5428, 5421, 5420, 5418, 5604, 6409, 6527, 3193 1E64 47232, 35183, 7160, 5037, 3833, 4941, 4864, 5044, 5034, 4965, 7215, 35482 1M83 50013: 92022, 5500, 6405, 5678, 5881, 5312, 3418, 5523, 6524, 6414, 3085 1V73 47338: 35339, 7188, 4945, 4973, 4880, 4947, 4963, 4933, 7187, 35281 1B36 47567: 18933, 18597, 18609, 18619, 17060, 13412, 19016, 18375, 18601, 18604, 18723 1C34 50034: 9478, 5809, 3408, 13566, 6611, 5785, 5695, 13567, 92041 1O86 47551: 4392, 3837, 4033, 3919, 21274, 21273, 18920, 18906 1A59 50023: 92063, 17132, 5443, 5445, 3301, 5855, 5811, 5865, 5619, 1945, 3281, 13477, 92059 1V76 50019: 3124, 5798, 5986, 5470, 1816, 13595, 5254, 6052, 5848, 92212 1A61 50044: 5667, 5860, 5774, 13610, 1881, 5734, 5494, 5524, 92081 1V80 45110: 9435, 5042, 5331, 5283, 6511, 13584, 13460, 13469, 13452, 9419 1M45 47418: 3127, 5933, 5830, 5817, 1860, 13593, 5770, 5550, 5123, 92134 1V81 47627: 13473, 13511, 13215, 17118, 13512, 3393, 13530, 13479 1A64 50041: 9466, 13572, 5812, 5847, 6616, 5400, 5471, 5797, 9467 1A69 47140: 18726, 24834, 18734, 17064, 13438, 18593, 18622 2B78 33014: 18709, 7075, 35197, 18611, 18744 1C46 50047: 9469, 5949, 3363, 13577, 6618, 5871, 5707, 13596, 9474 1M28 45105: 5930, 5816, 5894, 5957, 1972, 3241, 3194, 3302, 3293, 92194 1V85 relief 45003: 5008, 4961, 4946, 4966, 35465, 4996, 4979, 4930 1V85 47480: 9426, 13471, 13563, 13588, 13525, 6520, 5303, 5332, 9429 1M65 47551: 3193, 6527, 6409, 5604, 5418, 5420, 5421, 5428, 92114 1A79 47468: 92041, 13567, 5695, 5785, 6611, 13566, 3408, 5809, 9478 1E32 45121: 9419, 13452, 13469, 13460, 13584, 6511, 5283, 5331, 5042, 9435 1C51 50001: 84024, 7224, 3766, 5031, 5030, 5041, 5043, 4900, 5025 1V86 50008: 35336, 7996, 7220, 13314, 18626, 18711, 18804 Newton Abbot (17.30 - 18.49) 1C52 50038: 6037, 5751, 6160, 5758, 17097, 3405, 6113, 5862, 5859, 1671, 3410, 13561, 92054 45003 etc ECS 2C49 50047: 9474, 13596, 5707, 5871, 6618, 13577, 3363, 5949, 9469 47306: 80591, 93164, 93212, 93256, 93188, 93366, 93215, 84431, 84611 1A84 50048: 18805, 18982, 18686, 7210, 13435, 35188, 18882, 18612, 18927 1V88 50029: 92239, 6526, 5368, 3426, 5376, 5545, 5297 1M82 45110: 3375, 1657, 13534, 13531, 13539, 17144, 5583 1A43 10.45 Paignton - Paddington 1C23 09.07 Paddington - Paignton 1A48 11.45 Paignton - Paddington 1V67 07.59 Nottingham - Paignton 1A50 09.32 Penzance - Paddington 1E22 10.05 Newquay - Newcastle 1C29 10.18 Paddington - Paignton 1V10 09.14 Brighton - Penzance 1V71 08.20 Liverpool - Paignton 1E64 09.55 Penzance - Leeds 1M83 10.15 Penzance - Liverpool 1V73 08.38 Manchester - Newquay 1B36 13.00 Paignton - Swansea 1C34 11.10 Paddington - Paignton 1O86 10.50 Penzance - Brighton 1A59 11.05 Penzance - Paddington 1V76 09.36 Liverpool - Penzance 1A61 11.35 Newquay - Paddington 1V80 08.20 Bradford - Paignton 1M45 11.32 Penzance - Manchester 1V81 09.17 Leeds - Penzance 1A64 13.55 Paignton - Paddington 1A69 14.48 Paignton - Paddington 2B78 16.05 Exeter - Barnstaple 1C46 13.17 Paddington - Paignton 1M28 15.04 Paignton - Nottingham 1V85 09.23 Newcastle - Penzance 1M65 16.08 Paignton - Liverpool 1A79 16.23 Paignton - Oxford 1E32 16.43 Paignton - Leeds 1C51 14.15 Paddington - Paignton 1V86 13.44 Birmingham NS - Paignton 1C52 14.27 Paddington - Penzance 2C49 17.45 Paignton - Exeter 1A84 15.40 Penzance - Paddington 1V88 13.25 Manchester - Paignton 1M82 16.00 Penzance - Derby Superb stuff - almost exactly the rakes / locos I run on my Sandy Hill layout. Thanks again for the detail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB17005 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Only slightly off topic , but am I right in thinking that the WAT-EXD were worked exclusively by 50s during this period ? or did the occasional 33 still turn up ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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