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This loco is looking really good. The Warren Shephard bits make all the difference.

Thanks Steve,

 

I am seriously considering replacing the cylinders and slidebars too with Warrens substitutes. The W/M is not really up to it, but not as big an ask as the Nu Cast Garratt our "Metropolitan" is doing! Although I bought for under half price, it was still too much particularly as the Springside wheels had to be ditched.

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Thanks gents. I do have the correct "brass" Carr's product but it is not giving me anything like the finish on Ozz's axle. It has taken to the coupling and con rods more or less, but ignores other spots.

 

Think some gun blue is on the shopping list.

 

Hello LaScala,

 

all I have been trying to do is give you some help in all my replies. In the above quote you say "It has taken to the coupling and con rods more or less, but ignores other spots".

 

If you let me know what the "other spots" are I may be able to help you, but I need more info. from you.

 

If you don't want my help fair enough. I won't bother to post on here again.

 

Yours

 

OzzyO.

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Hello LaScala,

 

all I have been trying to do is give you some help in all my replies. In the above quote you say "It has taken to the coupling and con rods more or less, but ignores other spots".

 

If you let me know what the "other spots" are I may be able to help you, but I need more info. from you.

 

If you don't want my help fair enough. I won't bother to post on here again.

 

Yours

 

OzzyO.

No problem and always appreciate help. The Springside rods are milled brass (and a strong point of kit) hence I used the correct blackener. Likewise the frames which were the "other spot". I just don't like the inconsistent muddy mess that results. Might be somewhat realistic for the rods I suppose.

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No problem and always appreciate help. The Springside rods are milled brass (and a strong point of kit) hence I used the correct blackener. Likewise the frames which were the "other spot". I just don't like the inconsistent muddy mess that results. Might be somewhat realistic for the rods I suppose.

 

If it is of any help, I had trouble trying to blacken the rods of my 45xx springside model - they turned out brown and very patchy as if they were not reacting with the chemical properly. Basically they didn't blacken well at all and i have no problem blackening other brass stuff.

 

I noticed that you have left off the outside steam pipes so far- are you adding these later?

 

The adjusted safety bonnet now looks a lot better.

 

Regards

 

Tony

 

 

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If it is of any help, I had trouble trying to blacken the rods of my 45xx springside model - they turned out brown and very patchy as if they were not reacting with the chemical properly. Basically they didn't blacken well at all and i have no problem blackening other brass stuff.

 

I noticed that you have left off the outside steam pipes so far- are you adding these later?

 

The adjusted safety bonnet now looks a lot better.

 

Regards

 

Tony

 

Thanks

 

Outside pipes were not fitted to 4562 until after WW2 unless I'm mistaken.

 

I'm glad you had the same issue with the rods. They are one of the best features of the kit, really having a heavy look to them as they should.

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No problem and always appreciate help. The Springside rods are milled brass (and a strong point of kit) hence I used the correct blackener. Likewise the frames which were the "other spot". I just don't like the inconsistent muddy mess that results. Might be somewhat realistic for the rods I suppose.

 

 

Some manufactures use a grade of N/S that is almost yellow and can be mistaken for brass ( the fluid for brass will normally take on N/S, but not as well as the one for N/S), now I'm NOT saying that's happened here. First you have to have the metal well cleaned not just mechanical but also chemically. If the surface is polished it normally takes but you will have to do the following to get rid of any polish that's left. Use some thing like Meths., acetone or IPA. polished or not.

 

Different grades of brass react to the fluid in different ways some will take it well some will not take it at all, possible the worst is cast brass for not taking it.

 

I'm going to do a thread on metal blackening later today, to try and help everyone.

 

HTH

 

OzzyO.

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Have you given any thought to using premier component coupling rods?

I think warren advertises them on his web site.

I haven't as they look good are beautifully milled (not unnaturally a perfect match with the milled frames) and I can live with the hue. Ozz, you might be on the right track to some extent as it was the frames that I complained about the Carr's not taking to. I am certain they are brass of some description. but obviously it is not to Carr's liking.

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LaSacala,

 

I've just started a thread on metal blackening, it's in kit and scratch building at the moment but it may get moved to questions, hints and tips.

 

OzzyO.

 

Edit, I've just reread your last mess. the Carr's brass black that I used didn't like brass, but it did like steel?

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Very nice indeed. it's turned out a treat.

 

Thanks Kev and thanks for the "likes" along the way.

That's a great job LaScala. Given your user name how about splicing the triumphal march from Aida into the vid?

Good idea about the music Weaselfish, my nom de plume is related to the building rather than opera itself.

Runs and looks very good. You must be pleased with it?

I am but I would not repeat unless the purchase price was very low to allow heavy customisation. Also there is so much dead weight for the Mashima to drag around and that can't be beaten. Not as bad as Metropolitan's Nu-Cast project, but seriously obese all the same.

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It looks and runs lovely Hugh.

Thanks Rob,

 

I think it will be a good "layout" loco though, never a glass case model. It can certainly deal with 12-15 wagons. I'm glad I persevered with the vaccuum pump. It drove me silly and I did consider both giving up and gluing the bits. It is all soldered together in the end and clearances were eventually found.

 

As you can see from clip, my "plank" is only a nose in front of yours, just enough to shunt a train and prove everything works. I will add firebox glow as soon as I can get to the hobby electronics shop and possibly sound.

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As you can see from clip, my "plank" is only a nose in front of yours, just enough to shunt a train and prove everything works.

 

It's a bit more than than a nose in front mine at present but now I have my turntable kit I can start to make progress at last.

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