Chameleon Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 We will be running a small(ish) exhibition in the not too distant future and are in need of exhibition insurance, probably in the region of £200k plus the usual public liability etc. Does anyone have any recommendations or experience in this and are able to point me in the right direction of a suitable company? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted March 14, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2012 I think you will find that most Clubs use the Magnet Insurance scheme. You can get a quote on-line and membership of CMRA will often result in a discount that is more than the annual subscription. A copy of the policy is also there to see the details. http://www.modelrailwayinsurance.co.uk/ http://www.cmra.org.uk/ Been using them for years for clubrooms and two exhibitions each year (except one year when we forgot to set it up ) However I don't recall ever having to claim. The exhibition insurance covers layouts in transit (other vans are available) and so your exhibitors are covered home to home. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I endorse Mike's recommendation. We use Magnet for RMweb events, Tony Bound (Magnet's MD) thoroughly understands the exhibition organiser's needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I use them too - very helpful and efficient! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Nottingham Show has used Magnet for years, from the days when it was set up by John Dennison. Edit: a few years ago we were offered the chance to take Deepcar to the NRM as part of a 'cab-it' event. The NRM didn't carry exhibition insurance at the time so we asked Magnet about it and they gave us an extension on our clubroom policy, at no charge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted March 14, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yes we also use them at Stafford exhibitions and clubroom insurance and have done for years We have had to claim on one occasion recently for a exhibition claim and it was dealt with most efficiently Highly recommend Magnet Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have just sent Magnet a cheque for over £500 in respect of Trainwest. They have the big advantage of understanding the requirements of model railway exhibitions. They also pay up when they have to - only twice in 20 years but nevertheless a good sign. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 The subject of exhibition insurance has been raised in one of next month's magazines, the comment (from a well known exhibition manager) makes the point that although insurance is still required for the purposes for public liability, layouts and associated items (eg stock, controllers, etc) are probably covered on the owners home policy under the away from home criteria, and do not need to be duplicated. Although there is an obvious cost saving in an era of what businesses would refer to as "difficult trading conditions" when already tightened budgets have to be constrained even further, previous comments on this thread are testament to the advantage of having specialists to contact when things go wrong, instead of relying on an uneducated loss adjuster who may think that rare or unique items can be replaced on a like-for-like basis with a trip to the local model shop. There is also the question of items not being covered on a household policy, such as a layout owned by a club (although when we took a layout to a well known museum who were organising a mini show but were unable to provide cover, our insurers waived the fee for extending the policy). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2013 Many household policies have very restricted cover for items taken away from home, various conditions have to be observed concerning security. I don't think an exhibition would always be covered - it certainly was not when I checked with the house contents policy I had when I used to exhibit. David Edited to insert a missing word. D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 in one of next month's magazines, the comment (from a well known exhibition manager) makes the point that although insurance is still required for the purposes for public liability, layouts and associated items (eg stock, controllers, etc) are probably covered on the owners home policy under the away from home criteria, and do not need to be duplicated. I find that quite worrying; assuming that exhibitors are clearly advised I can imagine the concern over whether their own cover is sufficient or the cost of providing their own cover could be a deterrent to individuals taking layouts out on the road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted October 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2013 I find that quite worrying; assuming that exhibitors are clearly advised I can imagine the concern over whether their own cover is sufficient or the cost of providing their own cover could be a deterrent to individuals taking layouts out on the road.Yep, if the exhibition isn't sorting insurance that covers the layout and stock from the moment it passes my front door until it gets back into the house then it stays in the house. Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I have Magnet's private layout insurance and there is a big over lap with exhibition cover. But like Dagworth I will not take anything of mine to an exhibition unless the exhibition has full door to door cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted October 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2013 Do check with your insurers. I have declared my collection to my broker - who then revealed he was an LGB fiend! - and as the individual items were within the single article limit (normally around £1,500) there was no issue. HOWEVER Be aware that some insurers may classify it as a 'collection' and may therefore charge additional premium. If you can, get the items insured as separate items; £1,500 is a lot for an individual model...but not for a full collection. Be realistic with your valuations as being under-insured could leave you out of pocket. Also note that if you have a loss, your household insurers may contact the exhibition's insurance for a contribution (or vice versa). If you make a claim you will be asked to declare any other insurers that may have an interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I look at it this way. By taking out a policy with Magnet I am insuring myself in my role as Exhibition Manager. If an exhibit belonging to someone I have invited suffers loss or damage, I have the peace of mind to know that I can pay for its repair or replacement by making a claim on the policy. If you organise an exhibition and have not taken out proper insurance, an exhibitor who suffers a loss might hold you personally liable. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2013 Geoff, did your policy do the ( mentioned ) above cover from 'door to door' (so to speak)? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Geoff, did your policy do the ( mentioned ) above cover from 'door to door' (so to speak)? Phil I gave used Magnet many times and the answer to your question is yes it does. Nigel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted October 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2013 As far as I know Magnet have an exclusive deal with thier insurance copmany and no other policy gives the full range of cover that their exhibition policy covers. Some years ago our club secretary tried to stitch a similar policy together via his broker, in an attempt to save money. It proved impossible. Magnet perform a good service and I would endorse the comments above about not trusting household policies. I've just re done my household policy to cover my O gauge stuff when I take bits of Green Ayre out for testig in church halls. Tony Bound was very helpful and I saved some money compared with my previous insurer. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 The subject of exhibition insurance has been raised in one of next month's magazines, the comment (from a well known exhibition manager) makes the point that although insurance is still required for the purposes for public liability, layouts and associated items (eg stock, controllers, etc) are probably covered on the owners home policy under the away from home criteria, and do not need to be duplicated. Although there is an obvious cost saving in an era of what businesses would refer to as "difficult trading conditions" when already tightened budgets have to be constrained even further, previous comments on this thread are testament to the advantage of having specialists to contact when things go wrong, instead of relying on an uneducated loss adjuster who may think that rare or unique items can be replaced on a like-for-like basis with a trip to the local model shop. There is also the question of items not being covered on a household policy, such as a layout owned by a club (although when we took a layout to a well known museum who were organising a mini show but were unable to provide cover, our insurers waived the fee for extending the policy). Hmm, interesting! Not so long ago we took our layout to a show 'organised' by a magazine. It was only when looking over the scant information supplied for something else after the event did I reallse the layout, stock, etc was only covered whilst in the exhibition hall! If a vehicle had been involved in a crash and damage caused to anything it probably wouldn't have been covered. Scary thought! The layout belongs to the club, the stock to individual members. The stock either being in the van or individual cars, not necessarily the owner of the stock. in future!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukedog Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 The Cradley Heath Club have just joined the CMRA and have just staged their first ever exhibition. We used Magnet insurance for the simple reasons that we got our CMRA discount, the cover was more than enough for our needs and was dealt with promptly and efficiently on line by Magent. I have no hesitation in recommending Magnet to any exhibition manager. Cheers! Frank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nickwood Posted October 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2013 The Cradley Heath Club have just joined the CMRA and have just staged their first ever exhibition. We used Magnet insurance for the simple reasons that we got our CMRA discount, the cover was more than enough for our needs and was dealt with promptly and efficiently on line by Magent. I have no hesitation in recommending Magnet to any exhibition manager. Cheers! Frank Frank, I think I'm right in saying that individual members of any club associated with the CMRA will also get the discount if they wish to insure their own layouts with Magnet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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