Guest 838rapid Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 It has just been reported on Calender news (our local news) of a incident at Grosmont. Reports at the present time are vague,but they report a Male has been crushed between 2 vehicles and has died. The Incident happenend 90 minutes ago. My thoughts are with those involed. Sad news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Very sad new. As very few details are available can I request that any information is kept to links to news stories with no speculation, supposition or assumption and with due respect to anyone affected by any incident. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2012-05-21/man-crushed-in-railway-accident/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Latest news on the BBC website is that a man has died. Tragic as this is it does go to reinforce just what dangerous places railways are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Yorkshire Post has a little more http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/worker-killed-and-trains-halted-on-north-york-moors-steam-railway-1-4569738 RIP to the poor chap, at least he died doing something he obviously loved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 21, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2012 A sad day for the preservation movement http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-18150355 Thoughts to all involved. Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 My thoughts are with the volunteer's family and everyone at the NYMR at this sad time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblestripe Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Horrible news. R.I.P. and my thoughts are with his family and the good people of the NYMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 On WNXX another poster has posted the following: ''At the request of the railway, it has been asked that all keep their posting, facebook, twitter etc quiet until the NYMR release a formal statement'' Obviously this forum will take action as deemed appropriate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2012 On WNXX another poster has posted the following: ''At the request of the railway, it has been asked that all keep their posting, facebook, twitter etc quiet until the NYMR release a formal statement'' Obviously this forum will take action as deemed appropriate. i.e exactly as Andy has already said above in respect of RMweb. While this is undoubtedly a tragic incident for those involved and the bereaved, to whom I extend my deepest sympathy, it is worth remembering that such incidents can potentially have both civil and criminal legal consequences in which facts would become far more relevant than internet chatter and opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Way too many incidents recently. Many have been reported in various magazines and media. I forsee a clamping down by HMRI/RAIB which might ask questions about the workers on lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37255 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Which may be no bad thing, given the number of incidents lately... Shall just have to wait and see what the RAIB decide on that front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted May 22, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2012 I forsee a clamping down by HMRI/RAIB This is already underway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod5 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Please gents can we leave any talk about what has happened elsewhere and what is or should be likely to happen elsewhere out of this thread? Whilst you are all entitled to your opinions I don't think expressing them on here does anything to make a tragic situation any better and out of respect for the those involved can we just stick to posting as Andy has requested already. Very sad new. As very few details are available can I request that any information is kept to links to news stories with no speculation, supposition or assumption and with due respect to anyone affected by any incident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 22, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2012 NYMR website states that a normal service is in operation today, very sensibly (in my view) it appears that they have blocked comments in their 'news' section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 It is promising that they are operating a full green timetable service today - with only one tweet from them one hour ago. Once again though, thoughts are with anyone affiliated with the railway and the unfortunate individual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 5944 Posted May 22, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2012 Offical statement posted on NYMR website this afternoon. http://www.nymr.co.uk/2012/05/official-statement/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted May 23, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2012 Saw this on Ceefax initially - my first thought was how horrid for the poor chaps family. They certainly have my sympathy. The only other thought is that he died contributing to something he dearly loved - still doesn't change what is a great shame and a waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 838rapid Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 There is a update today on Calender news website www.itv.com/news/calendar/story/2012-05-21/rail-death-in-north-yorkshire/ It Includes a statement from the family. Very poigniant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted May 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2012 http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2012-05-22/tribute-to-killed-rail-worker/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Singpoint Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Latest update http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/current_investigations_register/120521_grosmont.cfm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Latest update http://www.raib.gov....21_grosmont.cfm Well, the time of the accident is quite a bit out, not a particularly good start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 1, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2012 Well, the time of the accident is quite a bit out, not a particularly good start. Alas the RAIB seems at times to be not particularly strong on 'detail'. On viewing a draft of one of their reports - re an incident on NR - I found three basic errors of fact (at least one of which might have had bearing on the circumstances of the fatality) and duly advised them; all were corrected in the final Report. It should not have been necessary for me to have to draw to their attention to such basic errors which could only have been a consequence of inattention (or lack of in depth examination of the site?) in the preparation of their Report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted June 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2012 Well, the time of the accident is quite a bit out, not a particularly good start. The initial press release says 'about 12.30' and RAIB say 'about 12.10' Neither of them are specific and is you take the word 'about' to mean 10 minutes either way then the accident could have occurred at 12.20 - but does that really matter? Surely what is important here is that the initial investigation appears to have identified an apparant fault in the loco that seems to have caused a sudden and unexpected change in direction. Note my use of the words 'appears', 'apparant' and 'seems to' as I don't want to be accused of prejudging the formal enquiry - see Andy post#2 and Mod5 #13 Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37255 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The apparent cause could prove to be quite controversial - whether it's judged as an alleged fault which should've been addressed on shed or an alleged driver error not to have known the risk and acted accordingly (ie to lock it in place). Glad I'm not the one who has to make that decision! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 The apparent cause could prove to be quite controversial - whether it's judged as an alleged fault which should've been addressed on shed or an alleged driver error not to have known the risk and acted accordingly (ie to lock it in place). Glad I'm not the one who has to make that decision! That is not the way it read to me. More that the lever was part of the design of SR locos and peculiar to them. If indeed that is the case then it is more of a question of training/instruction than a fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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