RMweb Premium Welly Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 21, 2012 ^^^ OMG - that's possibly the worst looking floater ever! Who wants to cruise on a line with "Grim" in it's name?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Seen at the Olympics. HMS Ocean I believe. Functional might be better than ugly. Quite impressive sitting at Greenwich. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 Seen at the Olympics. HMS Ocean I believe. Functional might be better than ugly. Quite impressive sitting at Greenwich. Bernard And according to past crew members a ship which is banned from entering harbour at Malta due to the appalling noise it engines make! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Oh I think those Grimaldi Line Ro-Ro ships are quite colourfull compared to this slab of grey at Southampton yesterday. I went down yesterday to see HMS Oceanin Marchwood but I got there 30 mins too late, oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 Oh I think those Grimaldi Line Ro-Ro ships are quite colourfull compared to this slab of grey at Southampton yesterday. I went down yesterday to see HMS Oceanin Marchwood but I got there 30 mins too late, oh well. Here you go then Brian - another view of a Grimaldi ro-ro crossing the bows of the THV Patricia off Bull Point in the Bristol Channel on Sunday 9 Septr, as seen from the bridge of the Patricia (best near broadside view I could get although it was only making 6 knots - sorry but pic has also appeared in another thread already) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30801 Posted September 21, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2012 OMG - that's possibly the worst looking floater ever! Who wants to cruise on a line with "Grim" in it's name?! When you think about it it's not that much worse looking than a modern cruise ship. It goes to places other cruise ships don't. Plus it's Italian and although the cabins are spartan the meals are five courses of magnificance. It's beginning to sound like a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 When you think about it it's not that much worse looking than a modern cruise ship. It goes to places other cruise ships don't. Plus it's Italian and although the cabins are spartan the meals are five courses of magnificance. It's beginning to sound like a good idea. It does look like an awfully long drop if you ever need to use the lifeboat, though... Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Lifeboat launch? You might like this one then http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff252/markindurham/?action=view¤t=CopyofFreefall480.mp4 Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Bon Accord, I think that the word that you seek is 'comely' this adjective was reserved for the ship's that may not have been the biggest but were always pleasing to the eye. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Lifeboat launch? You might like this one then http://s236.photobuc...Freefall480.mp4 Mark That's only a little drop compared to the height of the one in the photo(s) above. I assume they don't freefall lifeboats from the top of the ro-ro ships, although deployment may be 'interesting' if there is any significant list. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Bon Accord, I think that the word that you seek is 'comely' this adjective was reserved for the ship's that may not have been the biggest but were always pleasing to the eye. Tim Tim, To which ship are you referring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Bon Accord, How many comely vessels are featured in this thread? Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Bon Accord, How many comely vessels are featured in this thread? Tim Well that's very much a matter of taste, hence the question! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 That's only a little drop compared to the height of the one in the photo(s) above. I assume they don't freefall lifeboats from the top of the ro-ro ships, although deployment may be 'interesting' if there is any significant list. Adrian Actually they do! Freefalls are becoming more and more common, and they are in fact a requirement on newbuild bulk carriers. Most designs are certified to be dropped from a height of 40 metres (130ft), although some have been designed to be sited at (and thus dropped from) greater heights, but those boats are primarily found on specialised ships and oil rigs. The largest freefall boat I've encountered had a capacity of 60 men, however I have read about proposed 100 man boats with some suggestion that they could be employed on cruise ships, but the general consensus is that they're completely impractical for passenger use. The concept of a freefall is that they are a simple and expeditious method of abandoning ship, however that's all they're designed to do as they are a wholly unsuitable craft for survivors to spend more than a few hours in, never mind a longer endurance - in that sense the design relies on the assumption that you'll be picked up relatively quickly (as does much of current life saving thinking). They're very much a 'marmite' concept - some people detest them with a passion, others love them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Jim, I would never dare to define which ship has merit (or not) surely beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Regarding 'freefall' lifeboat deployments - all very well if the stricken vessel is actually upright, what happens if said vessel is on it's side or worse? Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Regarding 'freefall' lifeboat deployments - all very well if the stricken vessel is actually upright, what happens if said vessel is on it's side or worse? Cheers, John E. I think the concept of freefall is based on a steep angle aspect that is semi immune to a list plus these lifeboats are now quite frequently stern launched. As to the idea of safety being a short term solution, I think that the number of ships lost a long way from land in deep water is tiny in comparison with ones lost close to land in relatively shallow waters. I also believe that these modern ships have an automatic satellite link and if one of the crew flushes the toilet wrongly, this error is transmitted to the owners. I exaggerate but the point about the ship being monitored continuously is valid. It is entirely possible that a red light flashes up in the International centre in Falmouth (?) if such a ship gets into trouble anywhere in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 A few postings back I mentioned the Ulstein X bow and possibilities for further developments. Here is a proposal for a US Coast Guard ship so fitted. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8454/8003938536_1f46f4b327_o.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 22, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2012 A few postings back I mentioned the Ulstein X bow and possibilities for further developments. Here is a proposal for a US Coast Guard ship so fitted. http://farm9.staticf...f46f4b327_o.jpg Someone turned the plans upside down before they stuck the bow on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyRob16 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Grimaldi Lines' 'Grande Togo' berthed at Hamburg. Good Looking????............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Chandpara....British India Line looking at the funnel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30801 Posted September 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2012 Grimaldi Lines' 'Grande Togo' berthed at Hamburg. Good Looking???? Maybe not, but you can be sure it's safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Chandpara....British India Line looking at the funnel? Oh yes! One of the finest of all the British shipping companies, sadly merged into 'big' P&O when that august company (cough) decided that painting the hulls yellow and funnels blue would somehow make them more money, whilst the loss of individual identity of the old companies and therefore loyalty from their (very different) crews would be an insignificance. It all went full circle of course, as in recent years (that b******) Lord Sterling had P&O spilt up into its constituent parts and sold off, the end result being that the once invincible P&O has ceased to exist too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I sailed on the Nevasa, and of course who could ever forget the Uganda! Not me anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I sailed on the Nevasa, and of course who could ever forget the Uganda! Not me anyway! A schools cruise I would presume? It's such a shame that school children today don't the opportunity to do the same, I never made a schools cruise myself but know many who did - my Uncle was a Sciences teacher who sailed on many of them with his students. It's funny that you mention Uganda and on another thread today the Falklands War has been mentioned - who could forget her huge contribution to that conflict, not to forget the miracles that were worked by the dockyard mateys in Gibraltar getting her ready. As for the fresh curries available for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the resulting ever constant aroma, mmm..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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