steve fay Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Ive just seen the new pictures of the forth coming 45 XX from Lion heart. It Seems that the loco is of all brass construction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev_Lewis Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I spotted that too. I was hoping it would be as competitively priced as thier pannier, but that seems unlikely now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 I spotted that too. I was hoping it would be as competitively priced as thier pannier, but that seems unlikely now. I was thinking the same. It seems as though they have changed manufacturing companies as well as the pannier was built in china using a lot of injection molded plastic now this one is in Korea using what looks to be all brass construction. I wonder if Dapols entry has any thing to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Interesting to see how it compares in price and quality compared to the Tower brass offering. Not sure such duplication is healthy in such a limited market, but I wait to be surprised! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Interesting to see how it compares in price and quality compared to the Tower brass offering. Not sure such duplication is healthy in such a limited market, but I wait to be surprised! This is a really difficult one to address. In larger scales like O, certain prototypes like shunters, tanks engines and smaller mainline classes clearly offer larger potential sales. Running a Pacific + 12 in O gauge usually means you are building in the garden or own a major record label. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev_Lewis Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I was thinking the same. It seems as though they have changed manufacturing companies as well as the pannier was built in china using a lot of injection molded plastic now this one is in Korea using what looks to be all brass construction. I wonder if Dapols entry has any thing to do with it. Hmmm, perhaps a change in manufactuer will help keep the cost down. Hopefully quality won't suffer, the 64xx and 74xx are works of art. I have a feeling that the O gauge market is going to get very interesting when the new Dapol catalogue is released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 I know we shouldnt speculate but I wonder if they are going into brass models because of the possible competition from Dapol. I did have a lion heart 64 pannier and it was superb but If Dapol are to release a particular GWR loco for under £250 and of course there 08 for £170 and it is of a comparable quality then you have to ask why the BIG difference in price. I only sold my pannier because it was not suitable for my Ranelagh Bridge project not because of any issues. In my opinion it has the best steam DCC sound Ive heard. Southall had a few 45XXs in the 60s and they used them on empty coaching stock turns so I will be watching with interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 painted sample up on the web site now. still no cost yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonhaynes72 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 There have been leaflets, picked one up at Bristol this year, and reservations taken with £200 deposit. Indicative prices given; DCC ready £996. But price changes of raw materials will probably see an increase. Cheers, Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenwall Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 In the news section of their website Lionheart informs us that the 4575 will now be produced with the 4500 rather than later, this as a result of another company announcing a 4575. there is a slight delay as production now hits chinese new year (that's how it is). Does anyone know who the other company is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Master piece models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gardenwall Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Master piece models Thank you. Interesting to watch this develop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 From the news section of the Lionheart website, the production Prairies have been built and are being airfreighted over currently. Richard has hand carried some production samples back with him, which I believe he is intending to display (and hopefully demonstrate on the test track) at the GlosG0G show at Hardwicke, Gloucester this Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Don't mean to hijack the thread but can someone tell me the difference between plastic, diecast and brass? I know what they're made of, and that brass is usually the most expensive, but what's the difference in detail, for example, or running characteristics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Should have my hands on one on Thursday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Not long back from seeing Richard and collecting my new 45XX in the shape of 4508. And a nice little number it is. Looks good, runs well, sounds very nice. I only have my little 2 metre long test layout here in my apartment so not able to give it a good run but from what I have seen so far it will be even better when I get it home to my bigger layout. Here are a few snaps I did on my iPhone. Not exactly brilliant but at least you can see that this is another great model from Richard at Lionheart Trains. The packaging is excellent, sturdy and supports the loco well. A nice touch inside, no pun intended, is a pair of cotton gloves to handle your new purchase. Inside again the loco is well wrapped and protected. The loco. Also in the box is a loco crew for the user to fit inside the cab which is made easy by removing the cab roof which is held in place by some small strong magnets. So what next for Lionheart. Will be interesting ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 24, 2014 Now that I do like, even if it's in BR black with red plates. Can we see it in action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'll try to do a video tomorrow when I get home in the afternoon. Busy weekend, niece getting married. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Very nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The loco is very quiet in operation with the sound off. Similar gearbox arrangement as an ABC gear box on the centre axle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Zimo DCC sound decoder on board. Will be interesting to see how it compares to the Loksound V4 range of decoders I have in all my other O Gauge locos. One function that is missing on the Zimo in the loco is volume control on a function button. I have found it very useful on my Loksound based locos as I take them from home to exhibitions, demos and back again. I need to strap the loco to a PC interface and see what's on the inside of the Zimo and makes it tick. No, its not a sound fault, its just a saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Not long back from seeing Richard and collecting my new 45XX in the shape of 4508. So what next for Lionheart. Will be interesting ! Hi Andy Nice looking loco, I was talking to Richard at the Newport show when I picked up my 64xx and asked that question, the next loco will probably be a 43xx Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Now if they do a collett cab varient I'm in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hello TTG, any chance of a couple of photo of the inside and from underneath? OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Here are a few more pictures to keep you going until I can do some better ones. There are two showing the cab window slider, open and closed. Busy weekend. Sunday hopefully I can do a video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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