robmcg Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Thankyou Ray, I am pleased that the model looks straight, small things like bent top lamp bracket, rear sanding pipe, and other minor issues are in my opinion an inevitable part of manufacturing such complex models, although it would be nice if things were always perfect. Presumably the smokebox handle had fallen off in transit. Overall it is very impressive, better in real life than perhaps the camera shows. To me the disappointment of a poorly-assembled A3 60103 and warped running plates on Wellington had me thinking that maybe it was going to be rare to receive a straight model. REF code for what it's worth, same as Wellington. The seller of Penrice Castle, Modelfair was very fast and efficient, unlike their advertising of GWR 2-8-T 7202 in October for which they took my payment and after a 10 day silence and several emails from me to confirm despatch said ' we confirm the order', than after 3 weeks they said they could not supply the model. But that is off-topic. (still waiting for refund) Penrice Castle is a great pleasure, the lubricators are nicely done too! Edited November 13, 2014 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I recently acquired a copy of Portraits of Castles by Bryan Holden an Kenneth Leech. This book is invaluable to anyone who wants to renumber a Castle as there is at least one photo of each member of the class, more when they had been modified, eg. double chimney. There are also sketches of modification and original fittings. Sorry if this has already been mentioned. I haven't been through all 31 pages of this thread! Just received this excellent book via Amazon and O'Donohue Books s/h perfect order about £6 and what a fine reference book and browsing too, with a photo of every Castle and excellent essays by a man who fired and drove these lovely machines, as well as mention of Kings and other classes. Intelligent well-written stuff, thankyou unknown warrior. Now how to make my Hornby Brunswick green (on Penrice, Hornby got it better with early Kings I think) look a little more like the green in many and various photos and paintings I have seen. I have been experimenting with Paintshop Pro 6 software to vary the colour. Things were simpler when photos were all black-and-white! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 here is a much edited version of BR green I hesitate to call it accurate! someday I will get out four different Hornby Castles/Kings and show the SK/REF differences. https://www.facebook.com/brsteamphotos/photos/pcb.384675041698167/384674445031560/?type=1&theater Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2014 Although not shewing as in stock I'm reliably informed that Hattons have had another delivery of 5075 'Wellington' today.Too late for Christmas delivery now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2014 Although not shewing as in stock I'm reliably informed that Hattons have had another delivery of 5075 'Wellington' today.Too late for Christmas delivery now. My 'Penrice Castle' arrived at Camborne in a Hornby delivery at the end of last week (but is not being committed to the postal system as yet at my specific request) so it does appear Hornby have received and distributed something in time for Christmas (almost). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Yip Waltons in Altrincham had a few Castles in yestereday-tho not expected until March/April. Ah what times we live in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted December 23, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2014 Hi guys, Does the GWR-liveried 'Wellington' make for a simple renumber into the preserved 5051 'Earl Bathhurst' in roughly 'Didcot 2000'-condition please? I've got some photos, it has the same kind of slab-sided tender (though I've also seen pics with the other type) but wonder if there's anything more major I've missed, please excuse the massive lump of ignorance here! Many thanks, James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted December 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hi guys, Does the GWR-liveried 'Wellington' make for a simple renumber into the preserved 5051 'Earl Bathhurst' in roughly 'Didcot 2000'-condition please? I've got some photos, it has the same kind of slab-sided tender (though I've also seen pics with the other type) but wonder if there's anything more major I've missed, please excuse the massive lump of ignorance here! Many thanks, James I have another Wellington on order so I have a similar question. I am not at all knowledgeable about Castle variations.......could anyone suggest possible renames running as delivered out of the red box in 1947/8 ....... in the Chester area is by no means essential but would be icing on the cake Many thanks and best wishes from a cold but sunny Vancouver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2014 The Hawksworth tender severely limits the choice for the 1947 period with the Hornby Castle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted December 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2014 The Hawksworth tender severely limits the choice for the 1947 period with the Hornby Castle. Oh dear........I hadn't realised that it was that limited.......one assumes Hornby didn't either.........fortunately I edged the layout forward to early 1948 to accommodate these issues ......even relabelled a collet with the very early British Railways logo.........so how about 1948 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2014 http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&id=5033&type=S&loco=5033 5033 Broughton Castle was allocated to Chester in '48 and had a Hawksworth tender.Whether the Hornby model matches other details I'm not sure but it's a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted December 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2014 http://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&id=5033&type=S&loco=5033 5033 Broughton Castle was allocated to Chester in '48 and had a Hawksworth tender.Whether the Hornby model matches other details I'm not sure but it's a start. Perfect Rob thank you so much........details apart that ticks all the boxes and some.....when I lived on Merseyside we used to watch Broughton Park play Waterloo....rugby union.......and over here the Broughton archipelago is series of beautiful islands North of Desolation Sound.....by chance on our itinerary next summer I have a Grange that I renamed "Brockton Grange" using a similar scientific approach! Now all I want for Xmas is that magic email from Liverpool Again many thanks....hope you have a great Christmas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 (edited) Chaps, I've been tempted to acquire another 'Wellington' for renaming purposes as well - and I think my mind is made, given the absence of a GWR Castle in Hornby's 2015 annoucements... Castle of this parish posted the following on December 13th last year. I'm sure he won't mind me copying this in below: I was alerted to this by OTBL and I have sent this list to him via PM but incase it's of interest to others, here we go. As far as the Hawksworth tender in the GWR era goes, the engines I can find (date of fitting in brackets) are 4083 Abbotsbury Castle (1946), 4085 Berkley Castle (1946, notorious as the engine that ran down and killed Churchward!), 4092 Dunraven Castle, 5000 Launceston Castle (1946), 5016 Montgomery Castle (1946), 5022 Wigmore Castle (1946), 5023 Brecon Castle, (1946), 5038 Morlais Castle (1946), 5077 Fairey Battle (1947), 5085 Evesham Abbey (1947) and 5087 Tintern Abbey (1946). There might be others but I'm tired so there we are - best look under the circumstances! The first built with a HW tender was 7008 Swansea Castle but that was completed in 5/48, so its a bit late... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/78537-collett-and-hawksworth-4000-gall-tenders/page-2 Given the batch that Wellington was from, I'm tempted by Montgomery Castle I think! Cheers, CoY Edited December 25, 2014 by County of Yorkshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted December 25, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 25, 2014 I have also just purchased Potraits of Castles and also Portraits of Kings. What great reference books. The King book has several views of each loco on a page and sometimes it has a double page spread. Very good books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted January 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) David Geen has all the different variations as supplied with the Mitchell kits and only need mild filing to fit. South East Finecast also supply the different types in their kits and they are available as spares. I used the David Geen ones to alter the box series Star to the later Vauxhall type. Mike Wiltshire Silly question but couldn't we sand it down so there is a bit of a curve to the inside cylinder cover? I assume shape is the only issue. Edited January 4, 2015 by OnTheBranchline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2015 Well I've just ran my Wellington after purchasing just before Christmas. Very nice too.Without trawling this thread is the coal removable on the Hawksworth tender ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2015 Yes it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2015 Just a heads up on Hattons doing 'Wellington' for £108 in stock.Usual disclaimer.http://www.ehattons.com/51271/Hornby_R3105_GWR_Castle_Class_steam_locomotive_4_6_0_5075_Wellington_in_GWR_green_with_Hawksw/StockDetail.aspx 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 So tempted to buy a third at that price. Alas, if it came with a Collett tender coiffed in the same livery, then I'd probably max-out the overdraft and snap up half a dozen... CoY 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Alas, if it came with a Collett tender coiffed in the same livery, ... snap up half a dozen.Another early Collett era fan here who is patiently awaiting Caerphilly Castle with some trepidation after the Tintagel Castle and Lode Star experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2015 So tempted to buy a third at that price. Alas, if it came with a Collett tender coiffed in the same livery, then I'd probably max-out the overdraft and snap up half a dozen... CoY Yes, I thought that too as it's a really good price.Some places are selling it for £30 more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yes, I thought that too as it's a really good price.Some places are selling it for £30 more. Hereford Model Centre at same price now.If prices don't fall now that another batch has landed,retailers will struggle to offload them.Both the latest Castles are good but overpriced unrealistically by many retailers & e bay barons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGV Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) 5075 arrived today from Hattons. Close inspection does not reveal any real issues, but I have not run her yet. The lining is crisp, the frames are straight and there are no bits loose in the box. The front bogie wheels have 10 spokes. It does have the straighter form of outside steam pipes (see photo on Hattons site), rather than the larger radii steam pipes (shown on the Hornby site). I decided on Wellington rather than Caerphilly for 3 reasons: - I already have 4073, albeit the GMR model which I purchased in 1984 - I could not resist £108 for a new tooled Castle. The cheapest Caerphilly seems to be around £20 more - The new Caerphilly seems to be in "as preserved" condition with fireiron tunnel, and I'd prefer in "as built" condition I am also secretly hoping that once Mr Castle and his esteemed crew have 4079 running again, that Hornby will celebrate with a model of Pendennis Castle --- hopefully in original Garter Crest livery to commemorate its condition in 1925 (when it whipped the Pacifics). Edited January 27, 2015 by KGV 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Bartlett Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Cheltenham Model Centre now have about 20 of the '5075 Wellington' in stock for a reasonable price of about £114. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What are might be livery samples or test production samples of 4073 are on the Hornby website. I must say that (assuming they are not photoshopped), quality is much improved from the previous batch, namely the mould seam on each side of the boiler. And the ski slope of the front running plate also seems fractionally better, although still seems to be present. This is one model I am looking forward to, bringing back memories of young visits to the Science Museum... Better get an order in! I must say I'm not a huge fan of the Churchward tender on the castle, i find it detracts from the powerful look of the loco and reduces the bulk, and makes it look older (and more like a Star)... but for the sake of variety and authenticity, I'll have to tollerate :-p http://files.Hornby.com/360//R3237/R3237_spin%20large/Images/R3237_spin%20large/Lv2/img05.jpg www.Hornby.com/gwr-4-6-0-caerphilly-castle-castle-class-nrm.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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