Scottish Locomotives

[Synch]

 

Caledonian 782 class purchased off eBay, chassis was non functioning so was replaced with one from a Bachmann Jinty

[Compound2632]

It takes time to build a Locomotive, especially from scratch, but here is my latest! Posed on 'carpet hill', it's too cold in the layout room just now, and not quite finished, she needs a bit of ageing and dirt on the rods to tone them down a wee bit. One of the 'Fower Wheelers' which were found around the pits of Ayrshire. This one ended her days at Ardrossan and was photographed quite late in life in 1906 still without brakes on the engine and only wooden blocks on the tender. David L Smith describes some of the work these wee locos did in Tales of the G&SWR, worth a read if you haven't already.

Ian.

 

I've read David L Smith and had been intrigued by these engines but not before seen what one looked like - no photos in any of my books - is the 1906 photo published? Even more toy-like in its simplicity of outline than a Stirling 0-4-2! Thanks for the enlightenment!

 

Edit: looking through that gallery again, there is a photo of a model of R40 which I must have seen before...

Edited March 5, 2017 by Compound2632

[ian@stenochs]

I've read David L Smith and had been intrigued by these engines but not before seen what one looked like - no photos in any of my books - is the 1906 photo published? Even more toy-like in its simplicity of outline than a Stirling 0-4-2! Thanks for the enlightenment!

 

Edit: looking through that gallery again, there is a photo of a model of R40 which I must have seen before...

That photo of R40 is mine too! I built that using basic information, GA of the frames and a photo taken at Ardrossan with the loco partly obscured by the crossing gates. R47 is the result of a better photo turning up which let me build a much more accurate likeness.

 

As for the 0-4-2s, my favourite SouWest locos. I built one of the original 221 class about 20 years ago only got a record shot to hand but see below.

 

Ian

 

 

 

[Compound2632]

That photo of R40 is mine too! I built that using basic information, GA of the frames and a photo taken at Ardrossan with the loco partly obscured by the crossing gates. R47 is the result of a better photo turning up which let me build a much more accurate likeness.

 

As for the 0-4-2s, my favourite SouWest locos. I built one of the original 221 class about 20 years ago only got a record shot to hand but see below.

 

Ian

 

 

Beautiful!

[AJCT]

Well, here's my latest -

 

 

- a J37 under construction, on a test run up the 1 in 70 northwards from "Newton Duns".  Loco and tender bodies are from the NB Models kit, and the P4 chassis is from the former Eastfield Models kit - now available from NBR 4mm Developments.  Wheels are Gibson's, the motor is a Mashima 1420 mounted vertically in the firebox and the gearbox is a High Level 60:1 Loadhauler driving the rear axle.

 

Now that test runs have proved very satisfactory, it's time to get on and add all the outstanding details.

 

Alasdair

[uax6]

My almost finished 782:

 

SEF kit on a much butchered triang chassis, with sprung front axle, mashima can and flywheel, and 60:1 gearbox driving rear axle.

Its one of the vacuum fitted examples that lurked around Inverness.

 

Almost finished HR Scrap tank:

 

This one started out as a triang J72. The body has been extensively cut and shut. The chassis is a bit more basic on this one, no springing, and running a short modern XO4 replacement, just the front axle moved back.

 

Almost finished HR Barney:

This started out as a BEC 700 kit, which has had the boiler lowered 3mm and the footplate shortened:

700 on right.

The chassis is much butchered triang that has a mashima can and flywheel and Branchlines slim two stage 60:1 gearbox driving the rear axle. This allows the front two axles to be fitted with compensation:

 

This will run with a T9 tender, that will be suitably shortened.

 

You can see that there is a theme, that of having locos almost finished!

 

Andy G

Edited March 11, 2017 by uax6

[AJCT]

....... You can see that there is a theme, that of having locos almost finished!

 

Andy G

 

I know the feeling....

 

Alasdair

[kingfisher24]

Another project almost completed a Hornby 700 converted to a j37

Edited May 11, 2017 by kingfisher24

[Bon Accord]

Another project almost completed a Hornby 700 converted to a j37IMG_1744.JPGIMG_1791.JPGIMG_1799.JPG

 

Now that is very interesting!

Any chance you could do a bit of "writey writey" as to how it was done?

Is the loco/tender wheelbase correct or at least good enough?

I've been searching for a J37 kit for years but have still yet to find one!

[kingfisher24]

Now that is very interesting!

Any chance you could do a bit of "writey writey" as to how it was done?

Is the loco/tender wheelbase correct or at least good enough?

I've been searching for a J37 kit for years but have still yet to find one!

Thanks, yes the wheelbase isnt dead right but isnt far off either, the tenders main dimensions are near enough identical to the nbr tender as all ive had to do is put a curve on the rear frames of the tender, the loco body was a different matter, ive used a gbl j39 boiler which is the same size (ish). I had hoped to keep the 700 boiler and wrap the plastic boiler around it and hence keep the weight but it wouldnt work to i removed the complete boiler and cab which luckily came off in one piece just leaving the running plate with splashers. Now doing that has reduced the weight but it isnt going to pull long trains anyway and it pulls 15 wagons which will do for me. The cab isnt quite right at the front but unless i sit this loco next to my kit built one it wint show too much ( look at the pic with the loco on the plan and compare that with the red painted loco and you will say what i mean...

 

The loco is also slightly shorter as i didnt want to play about with the running plate, instead i shortened the boiler and cab slightly to even it up but again unless the kit built and cut n shut are next to each other it wont show.

 

Gary

[Londontram]

Well it looks bloody good to me and I always think that's half the battle. If it looks right then in my books it is right who gives a damn if its out a mm here or there

[AJCT]

Well it looks bloody good to me and I always think that's half the battle. If it looks right then in my books it is right who gives a damn if its out a mm here or there

 

Agree – you’ve managed to capture that “massive” look which was so characteristic of the J37s: I always felt the boiler in the NB Models kit (see pic at post 305 above) looked a bit under-nourished especially at the cab end.  So on my 2 kits I’ve done some rather crude jiggery-pokery to fatten the boiler by flattening the 2 halves slightly and then gluing it together with the insertion of 60thou packing between the halves. There then followed a lot of filling, filing and rubbing-down, especially with the 2^nd kit which had a lot of casting flash.  The results seem to have made the effort worthwhile and I’ll post some pics IDC.

 

 

What chimney and dome did you use?  I thought the ones from the NB Models kit looked a little too tall, which also served to emphasise the slimness of the boiler.

 

 

Alasdair

Edited May 17, 2017 by AJCT

[kingfisher24]

Agree – you’ve managed to capture that “massive” look which was so characteristic of the J37s: I always felt the boiler in the NB Models kit (see pic at post 305 above) looked a bit under-nourished especially at the cab end.  So on my 2 kits I’ve done some rather crude jiggery-pokery to fatten the boiler by flattening the 2 halves slightly and then gluing it together with the insertion of 60thou packing between the halves. There then followed a lot of filling, filing and rubbing-down, especially with the 2^nd kit which had a lot of casting flash.  The results seem to have made the effort worthwhile and I’ll post some pics IDC.[/size]

 

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What chimney and dome did you use?  I thought the ones from the NB Models kit looked a little too tall, which also served to emphasise the slimness of the boiler.[/size]

 

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Alasdair[/size]

Thanks for the kind words, the chimney is from my bits n pieces box, as is the dome. If I remember correctly the chimney is from a gresley v1/v3 and as for the dome I honestly cannot remember. I have some spare gem chimneys and domes but i thought these looked too tall for the loco. The dome may be from a j39 or j38 etc as the done was certainly similar to the one removed from the gbl j39 boiler.

 

Here are a couple of shots taken yesterday, tomorrow evening i hope to get the lubricators fitted but we will see...

 

[kingfisher24]

A couple of updates on my latest projects, i have completed my conversion of a Hornby 700 into an ex nb j37. The loco just needs some weathering to finish it off.

Secondly i have been working on a pdk glen kit for some time now and the loco is getting nearer to completion.

 

[kingfisher24]

A little more progress on my pdk glen, buffer beams painted (first coat) and spring buffers fitted. The bogie has been painted as has the tender chassis, im leaving painting the loco chassis til last as i like to make sure everything is as it should be before finishing the chassi of. The cab interior will need painting but isnt a priority at the moment although, id like to fully paint the inside cab sheets and backhead as far as possible but its down the list, i may do it before lining out etc.

 

[kingfisher24]

I have recently been doing some more work on some of my projects including more work on the pdk glen and finally fitting a proper cab floor to my j88 and some repairs to a couple if my older gem glens and my scratch d51 has been touched up but the loco needs repainted.

[sulzer27jd]

My D40 is finally earning her keep on the layout;

 

 

John

Edited September 17, 2017 by sulzer27jd

[benachie]

My D49 is finally earning her keep on the layout;

 

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John

Beautiful but D40, to be pedantic.

Alan

[sulzer27jd]

Beautiful but D40, to be pedantic.

Alan

That's not being pedantic, that's pointing out a typo.

 

Thanks

 

John

Edited September 17, 2017 by sulzer27jd

[Steamysandy]

I was frankly amazed at Gary's( Kingfisher24) models on this thread.I haven't been in touch for a number of years but as a classmate of my son he used to come round and take over running sessions on a Hornby circuit I had in my garage .(I'm not a builder- more a collector!)

So can I say brilliant and I'll let my son see it.

[kingfisher24]

Another project on the way, a barely started riceworks kit of a d51 picked up at the Dundee show for not a lot of money at all. The loco is progressing nicely, the body is all but complete just needing the steps reattached as these were separated from the running plate fret and a new valance either side as, who ever had started the loco had well and truly ruined the valance but, this will be replaced soon. The original lost wax some was replaced by a Hornby sr 700 dome which is the same size and a nicer/crisper moulding. Also the motor and proper wheels have been fitted and the loco has ran tonight (albeit as an 0-4-0 but typically my fone died and was unable to get a shot of the loco.

[Compound2632]

Am I reading too much into the yellow primer?

[kingfisher24]

Am I reading too much into the yellow primer?

Am I reading too much into the yellow primer?

Don’t worry its just a primer (filler primer) i thought id give it a try as one of my other club members recommend it. In due course the loco will be black, although one other member said why not go for full north british livery but I’ll stick to lner lined black which is far easier.

 

Gary

Edited November 8, 2017 by kingfisher24

[andytrains]

I have recently been doing some more work on some of my projects including more work on the pdk glen and finally fitting a proper cab floor to my j88 and some repairs to a couple if my older gem glens and my scratch d51 has been touched up but the loco needs repainted.

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Dart castings are doing the J88 etches from the old Falcon Brass range.

There are no castings apparently.

I have ordered one and will update when it arrives. (Approx 6 weeks).

[kingfisher24]

Dart castings are doing the J88 etches from the old Falcon Brass range.

There are no castings apparently.

I have ordered one and will update when it arrives. (Approx 6 weeks).

Dart castings are doing the J88 etches from the old Falcon Brass range.

There are no castings apparently.

I have ordered one and will update when it arrives. (Approx 6 weeks).

Well for my j88 conversion i used a dome from their old j83 and the chimney was from my bits and pieces box but the j83 chimney could be made to fit, it would need shortening but that isnt too difficult.

 

Gary