kingfisher24 Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Those are seriously nice models of the J36 and Atlantic - well done. I hadn't realised the Bachmann 3F was that close to a J36 dimension wise to make a conversion possible, certainly food for thought when considering tackling the PDK kit. The wheelbase isnt a million miles ou and at 5'2" on the full size the wheels are slightly too big as the j36 had 5' wheels but i thought better slightly too big rather than the pannier wheels i used before, the running plate is also slightly too long but only by a few mm so i extended the cab side sheets to suit. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
medion694 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 After viewing some of the spectacular locos on this thread I thought I might share some of my meagre kit-built Scottish locos. Apologies for the poor photo quality. An N15/1 built from a 52F kit as 69224 during its brief stint at Keith shed. New addition to the fleet with only the smokebox plate still to do. A D40 from a pdk kit built as 62277 "Gordon Highlander" also of Keith shed (minus the name plates). My favourite class of loco, but it needs its poor wonky boiler bands redone (made the amateur mistake of using card for the boiler bands which disintegrated when using the waterslide transfer lining!) K2 61783 "Loch Shiel" again from Keith Shed. My second favourite loco and built from a nu-cast kit. However I need to find a way of toning down the running gear... My attempt at a J36 from a pdk kit heavily butchered to fit on a Bachmann pannier chassis. Not quite as convincing as Kingfisher's astounding kit/scratchbuilt effort (note the horible boiler deformation between the centre splashers to fit the chassis motor!). I'm thinking of taking it to pieces and reconstructing it with a proper chassis. Lastly a Caley 0-6-0T refurbished and re-detailed from a secondhand Wills kit. A good runner, but can't go round my second radius curves! I'm currently building a C16 from a Cotswold kit so will post when that is completed. Nice to see so many different Scottish locos on this thread, lets keep it up! Adam 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 After viewing some of the spectacular locos on this thread I thought I might share some of my meagre kit-built Scottish locos. Apologies for the poor photo quality. An N15/1 built from a 52F kit as 69224 during its brief stint at Keith shed. New addition to the fleet with only the smokebox plate still to do. A D40 from a pdk kit built as 62277 "Gordon Highlander" also of Keith shed (minus the name plates). My favourite class of loco, but it needs its poor wonky boiler bands redone (made the amateur mistake of using card for the boiler bands which disintegrated when using the waterslide transfer lining!) K2 61783 "Loch Shiel" again from Keith Shed. My second favourite loco and built from a nu-cast kit. However I need to find a way of toning down the running gear... My attempt at a J36 from a pdk kit heavily butchered to fit on a Bachmann pannier chassis. Not quite as convincing as Kingfisher's astounding kit/scratchbuilt effort (note the horible boiler deformation between the centre splashers to fit the chassis motor!). I'm thinking of taking it to pieces and reconstructing it with a proper chassis. Lastly a Caley 0-6-0T refurbished and re-detailed from a secondhand Wills kit. A good runner, but can't go round my second radius curves! I'm currently building a C16 from a Cotswold kit so will post when that is completed. Nice to see so many different Scottish locos on this thread, lets keep it up! Adam very nice locos in these snaps, as regards the j36 the pannier chassis is what i used originally but the more i looked at it the more it looked wrong, thats why i opted for the Bachmann 3f chassis with the larger wheels, the wheelbase is near enogh and the wheels are slightly too big but id rather have something that is slightly over size than something which is too small. i particularly like the d40, i hav always wanted one and do it in as first preserved livery but the banks anccount (and the wife) say NO haha gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 very nice locos in these snaps, as regards the j36 the pannier chassis is what i used originally but the more i looked at it the more it looked wrong, thats why i opted for the Bachmann 3f chassis with the larger wheels, the wheelbase is near enogh and the wheels are slightly too big but id rather have something that is slightly over size than something which is too small. i particularly like the d40, i hav always wanted one and do it in as first preserved livery but the banks anccount (and the wife) say NO haha gary and as regards the boiler liing on the d40, you would be better just putting the lining transfers directly onto the boiler, if you think on the real thing the boiler bands were wafer thin and we always make them too thick (i know that on a cast boiler they are more difficult to get rid of) but you really would be better just to put the lining directly onto the boiler. it will give a better finish. gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
medion694 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 and as regards the boiler liing on the d40, you would be better just putting the lining transfers directly onto the boiler, if you think on the real thing the boiler bands were wafer thin and we always make them too thick (i know that on a cast boiler they are more difficult to get rid of) but you really would be better just to put the lining directly onto the boiler. it will give a better finish. gary Thanks Gary, I might just do that. I used card because of how thin the boiler bands appear, but it ended up backfiring. As for the J36, the pannier chassis has increasingly annoyed me too as the standard of my kit building got better. I think I could probably tackle the proper chassis now instead of using rtr and attempt to 'un-bash' the body. Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vitalspark Posted August 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2015 Interesting to see the sheer amount of Scottish locos modelled here..didn't realise we were so popular! Some very good models and hopefully I might add a few more from the corners of our trainset. First is an old pic showing a Caley 0-4-4T in the bay at Alloa station ..and below similar shot of model although taken from memory or would have moved the stock! J37 in yard J88 at shed Jumbo at Platform 0-4-4T in Bay Finally Caley 762 Class 0-6-0 56246 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Interesting to see the sheer amount of Scottish locos modelled here..didn't realise we were so popular! Some very good models and hopefully I might add a few more from the corners of our trainset. First is an old pic showing a Caley 0-4-4T in the bay at Alloa station ..and below similar shot of model although taken from memory or would have moved the stock! DSC05062.jpg DSC_0700.jpg J37 in yard DSC_0817-1.jpg J88 at shed IMG_1010 - Version 3.jpg Jumbo at Platform DSC_0709 - Version 2.jpg 0-4-4T in Bay DSC_4765.jpg Finally Caley 762 Class 0-6-0 56246 DSC_1026.jpg Very nice i always like seeing snaps of alloa, im guessing the j37 is pdk or is it the old nb models loco, i have an nb models example and it lloks very good for the age of it, secondly im assuming the j88 to be a bec example. Is the layout being exhibited in scotland any time soon. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 I cant remember if this has been posted before but, anyways the snap of 68335 on Alloa by vital spark made me want to upload one of 68334. I am currently working on another two j88's but at the moment just the bodies are being done as the electrotren chassis arent cheap. I could use terrier chassis but whilst they run well and i have two of them, they sont look right when sat beside the finer electrotren chassis model. Gary 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I cant remember if this has been posted before but, anyways the snap of 68335 on Alloa by vital spark made me want to upload one of 68334.image.jpg I am currently working on another two j88's but at the moment just the bodies are being done as the electrotren chassis arent cheap. I could use terrier chassis but whilst they run well and i have two of them, they sont look right when sat beside the finer electrotren chassis model. Gary Just don't make one them 68341 unless your depicting a very easily BR period as it went into Kirkcaldy harbour I believe in 1954 and was withdrawn soon after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Very nice i always like seeing snaps of alloa, im guessing the j37 is pdk or is it the old nb models loco, i have an nb models example and it lloks very good for the age of it, secondly im assuming the j88 to be a bec example. Is the layout being exhibited in scotland any time soon. Gary Thanks Gary for the kind comments. I didn't have anything to do with the build of either of these two but I do have an unbuilt NB J37 and I'm sure its the same. I will recheck the J88 when down at club this week and let you know. Next outing for Alloa will be at Wakefield in November followed by the Modelrail Scotland 50th anniversary show at the SECC in Glasgow in Feb '16. Looking forward to both of these shows as Alloa is nearing its last years on the exhibition circuit..we have a new Scottish layout under construction in the same vein..bit bigger at over 40ft and will feature a wider sphere of operation from pacifics to Caley tanks. We think it will be a great exhibition layout with plenty of action and like Alloa is being hand built from drawings and photographs so hopefully be as good visually and as accurate. Still at baseboard stages although signals have been started by our member with the fetish for lattice posts…every group has one! Dave Just for a change a shot without a loco..or the way Alloa was for most of the working day! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScRSG Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Very nice i always like seeing snaps of alloa, im guessing the j37 is pdk or is it the old nb models loco, i have an nb models example and it lloks very good for the age of it, secondly im assuming the j88 to be a bec example. Is the layout being exhibited in scotland any time soon. Gary The J88 is, believe it or not, from the Jidenco Kit! (Don't ask me ever to do another one!) Edited to add the J37 is the NB models Kit. Edited August 31, 2015 by ScRSG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 The J88 is, believe it or not, from the Jidenco Kit! (Don't ask me ever to do another one!) Edited to add the J37 is the NB models Kit. Bless him..he grumps about all the kits he builds for Alloa and says he is doing no more…but he makes a great job of them so we just ignore his moans. He went on about the Judith Edge shunters for a month… The aforementioned Jidenco J88 showing not a sign of the grief it caused... ..and the famous shunters that hastened his grey hair.. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Bless him..he grumps about all the kits he builds for Alloa and says he is doing no more…but he makes a great job of them so we just ignore his moans. He went on about the Judith Edge shunters for a month… The aforementioned Jidenco J88 showing not a sign of the grief it caused... DSC_0855_2.jpg ..and the famous shunters that hastened his grey hair.. DSC_0810.jpg Ahh i had forgotten about the jidenco j88 kit, i have a body of one lying in the shed, but as ive built one from rtr parts i have done nothing more as yet, i will be at glasgow with the edinburgh lot and will be over to say hello. Although its my youngest little girls 2nd birthday over the weekend of model rail so will no be there all weekend this time. Keep the pictures coming. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ahh i had forgotten about the jidenco j88 kit, i have a body of one lying in the shed, but as ive built one from rtr parts i have done nothing more as yet, i will be at glasgow with the edinburgh lot and will be over to say hello. Although its my youngest little girls 2nd birthday over the weekend of model rail so will no be there all weekend this time. Keep the pictures coming. Gary Say hello indeed Gary..make yourself known at the train set. Dave (Scott)..there are four 'Daves' in our small group..its been rumoured that its a requirement to get past the enquiry stage! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Dave (Scott)..there are four 'Daves' in our small group..its been rumoured that its a requirement to get past the enquiry stage! Totally OT, but you might like this then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nvzEqsZIGo (Comes with an earworm warning) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Totally OT, but you might like this then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nvzEqsZIGo (Comes with an earworm warning) Sh*t..wish I hadn't watched that now..see what you mean about the earworm warning! I'll forward to the other Daves…share and share alike my motto. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 pH..your flickr link to '60s images is superb with a huge amount taken in Scotland…many very familiar. Highly recommend a browse. Thanks Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Just don't make one them 68341 unless your depicting a very easily BR period as it went into Kirkcaldy harbour I believe in 1954 and was withdrawn soon after. Here it is being 'fished' out. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 Here it is being 'fished' out. I cant honestly think why that was - it must have been one of the cleanest locos on br after its dip in the harbour! Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2015 Some of Pete Westwater's pics from the 'Kirkcaldy Harbour' thread: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/31071-kirkcaldy-harbour-railway/&do=findComment&comment=674167 Shows the errant loco and also the recovery crane sent to retrieve it - including the 3 locos needed to shove it back up to the main line 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitalspark Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Here it is being 'fished' out. I wouldn't have thought that it would have been damaged enough to be withdrawn after recovery certainly looks not too bad. Even 'The Diver' no 224 was fished out of the Tay and worked for many years. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Kirk Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Hi, Pete Westwater was a few years older than me and got to go along and photograph the recovery. It was done on a Sunday as otherwise all of the J88s used would have been on their regular duties. I was made to go to Sunday School and only got there with my parents when the loco was already dangling out of the water. I have always been glad to have Pete's photos as a record. I think that the loco could have been repaired but with diesel shunters just about to hit the scene it was not felt to be worth the expense. When 224 was rebuilt after the Tay Bridge disaster it was still "state of the art" and had many years of potential use in front of it. Years ago I had a model, built from one of the rare NB models J88 kits which I finished in satin black with the more modern BR crest and numbered 68341 as in my model world she was rebuilt and sent north on loan to work a distillery branch. Went when I changed to EM, another sale that I now regret. best wishes, Ian Edited September 14, 2015 by Ian Kirk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hi, Pete Westwater was a few years older than me and got to go along and photograph the recovery. It was done on a Sunday as otherwise all of the J88s used would have been on their regular duties. I was made to go to Sunday School and only got there with my parents when the loco was already dangling out of the water. I have always been glad to have Pete's photos as a record. I think that the loco could have been repaired but with diesel shunters just about to hit the scene it was not felt to be worth the expense. When 224 was rebuilt after the Tay Bridge disaster it was still "state of the art" and had many years of potential use in front of it. Years ago I had a model, built from one of the rare NB models J88 kits which I finished in satin black with the more modern BR crest and numbered 68341 as in my model world she was rebuilt and sent north on loan to work a distillery branch. Went when I changed to EM, another sale that I now regret. best wishes, Ian When you think that the gorgie pilot 68335 lasted to '62 its a pity it wasn't considered for preservation as the loco was fitted for shunting gorgie east yards etc. Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 I have posted this loco before but always on a passenger rake of one kind or another, so i thought id do something differant and run the c16 on a freight, as these handsome loco's weren't just used on locals. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 After viewing some of the spectacular locos on this thread I thought I might share some of my meagre kit-built Scottish locos. Apologies for the poor photo quality. My attempt at a J36 from a pdk kit heavily butchered to fit on a Bachmann pannier chassis. Not quite as convincing as Kingfisher's astounding kit/scratchbuilt effort (note the horible boiler deformation between the centre splashers to fit the chassis motor!). I'm thinking of taking it to pieces and reconstructing it with a proper chassis. Adam Hi Adam I singled this out as I went down this route with a Bachmann pannier chassis when scratch building a jumbo and in the end gave up on the Bachman chassis and have now turned to a Hornby chassis as even though the motor is a bit longer (About 1 to 1.5mm) the motor sits up right Where as the Bachmann motor is a can motor sat on its widest side, this means the amount cut out at the bottom of the boiler is a lot less for the Hornby motor and the splashers on the center axle can hide it better. Its early days yet but here's some picture of some of the bits sat on the Hornby chassis. For some of the parts I'm using the running plate (cut down to the right length) The cab, smoke box , chimney and tender from the GBL Caledonian single static model to help with the build. These will all be altered as required. Picture one the parts salvaged from the GBL single Next is the Hornby chassis cut down to the correct length and also with some of the block in front of the motor mount cut away to give it some daylight under the forward part of the boiler, the bit remaining is just enough to mount the motor retaining screw in. Two final pictures of the parts loosely sat on the Hornby chassis. Hope you can see the potential. Steve 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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