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Hi everyone, blimey, this place really is fantastic for information! Thanks for sharing it, it's been very useful indeed.

 

Hi Theakerr, yep, it is quite bad. The two riverside parks have become a part of the river, and a couple of friends have water in their basements. We are in Edmonton this weekend. we were supposed to leave Fernie on Friday, but rumour was that the road was closed/open/closing, so we decided to start Thursday evening. We managed to get through where the road was being washed away (one lane had disappeared into the river), then on the Alberta border a new waterfall was cascading down the side of a mountain and bouncing off the road. There was a huge diversion around High River, my thoughts are with that community. Finally made Calgary, and managed to get out before the worst of the flooding there. Supposed to be driving home on Monday, so will see how it goes. If you want to see something scary, the landslide on hwy 1 outside Canmore should do it.

 

We are on the side of a hill about 3m above a creek, so the B&B should be ok. I'll find out when we get back.

 

Hope your son hasn't been affected too much by the events.

 

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Hi everyone, blimey, this place really is fantastic for information! Thanks for sharing it, it's been very useful indeed.

 

Hi Theakerr, yep, it is quite bad. The two riverside parks have become a part of the river, and a couple of friends have water in their basements. We are in Edmonton this weekend. we were supposed to leave Fernie on Friday, but rumour was that the road was closed/open/closing, so we decided to start Thursday evening. We managed to get through where the road was being washed away (one lane had disappeared into the river), then on the Alberta border a new waterfall was cascading down the side of a mountain and bouncing off the road. There was a huge diversion around High River, my thoughts are with that community. Finally made Calgary, and managed to get out before the worst of the flooding there. Supposed to be driving home on Monday, so will see how it goes. If you want to see something scary, the landslide on hwy 1 outside Canmore should do it.

 

We are on the side of a hill about 3m above a creek, so the B&B should be ok. I'll find out when we get back.

 

Hope your son hasn't been affected too much by the events.

 

Cheers

 

Jason

Hope all is ok.

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I hope you don't mind jrg1, but I've reformatted your post to make it more readable

 

30/07/1960 AUGUST BANK HOLIDAY TRAFFIC Saturday 30/7/60 (Steam Railway 113, Steam World 134)        

 

Skegness Arrivals             (* Additional Arrivals)        

61144/43157   Leicester (Belgrave Road)   0840hrs M959*            

61894/61889   Skegness        0932hrs              

61826     Shirebrook     0938hrs              

61870     Basford North     0948hrs              

61142     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1000hrs M961*            

61767     Nottingham Victoria     1003hrs              

61339     Leeds       1010hrs              

61852     Derby Friargate     1033hrs              

61107/61348   Chesterfield Central     1051hrs              

DMU     Lincoln       1100hrs              

61391     Kings Cross     1109hrs Butlin's Special-Second Class only      

61967     Sheffield       1119hrs              

61285     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1125hrs              

61177     Nottingham Victoria     1148hrs              

61310     Sheffield       1200hrs              

DMU     Grantham       1206hrs              

61899     Bradford       1217hrs              

61214     Manchester Central     1228hrs              

61384     Enfield Chase     1234hrs              

61393     Leeds       1240hrs              

61837     Sheffield Midland     1246hrs              

61313     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1300hrs M963*            

61947     Kidsgrove       1310hrs W582*            

61888     Manchester London Road   1313hrs              

61042     Kings Norton     1322hrs              

DMU     Lincoln       1339hrs              

61247     Derby Friargate     1355hrs              

Also recorded:                          

61374     0845hrs Grimsby-Kings Cross                  

61379 Mayflower    0920hrs Cleethorpes-Kings Cross                

61190     At c0930hrs Little Steeping northbound light engine              

63819     At c1020hrs Little Steeping on northbound freight               

61235     1058hrs Peterborough-Grimsby                                                

 

Mablethorpe Arrivals         (* Additional Arrivals)              

61088     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   0910hrs M960*            

61163     Basford North     1018hrs              

61251 Oliver Bury   Nottingham Victoria     1032hrs              

61036     Doncaster       1100hrs              

61141     Nottingham Victoria     1147hrs              

61092     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1231hrs              

61000 Springbok   Derby Friargate     1244hrs              

612**     Manchester Central     1313hrs               Locomotive substituted for 61728 (Hot box) at Lincoln  

 

Skegness Departures (* Additional Departures)                    

43080     Kings Cross      0905hrs              

43157     Coventry       0912hrs M980*            

61926     Manchester Central     0927hrs              

61144     Kings Cross     0934hrs Butlin's Special-Second Class only      

DMU     Grantham       1012hrs               61894     York       1055hrs              

61826     Shirebrook     1102hrs               61339     Leeds       1114hrs              

61870     Nottingham Victoria     1124hrs              

61889     Sheffield Victoria     1133hrs              

61348     Manchester Central     1147hrs              

61142     Derby Friargate     1155hrs M981*            

61058     Sheffield Victoria     1203hrs              

61391     Kings Cross     1215hrs Butlin's Special-Second Class only      

61767     Derby Friargate     1228hrs              

43091     Peterborough     1235hrs              

DMU     Grantham       1252hrs              

61285     Nottingham Victoria     1320hrs              

61852#     Leicester Belgrave Road   1332hrs              

61107#     Chesterfield Central     1347hrs              

61899#     Bradford       1359hrs              

61177#     Basford North     1412hrs              

61042#     Kings Norton     1420hrs              

61393#     Leeds       1430hrs              

61967#     Sheffield Victoria     1452hrs              

61247 Lord Burghley# Derby Friargate     1504hrs              

61837#     Sheffield Midland     1520hrs                                          

 

 Mablethorpe Departures   (* Additional Departures)                

61209     Nottingham     0950hrs M982*            

61258     Sheffield Victoria     1010hrs 561*            

61088     Derby Friargate     1115hrs M983*            

61163     Basford North     1150hrs              

61036 Ralph Assheton Doncaster       1220hrs              

61251 Oliver Bury   Nottingham Victoria     1233hrs              

61141#     Nottingham Victoria     1335hrs              

61092#     Leicester Belgrave Road   1352hrs              

61000 Springbok#   Derby Friargate     1425hrs              

61202#     Manchester Central     1510hrs                                            

# Assumed to have worked their booked trains All times are scheduled arrivals/departures                                                                  
 

 

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Cheers for reformatting Bedders, I'm on my phone until I get back, and couldn't do it, so you've saved me a job there. I'll spend a happy hour cross-referencing the numbers against types. The two magazines you referenced, are they good articles? If they are then I might try to find the mags on ebay.

 

Hi Westerhamstation, thankyou. I think the high point has passed the area. Here's a short video of Crowsnest Pass that someone else created, but it's essentially what we drove through on Thursday. Normally there are no waterfalls at that point

 

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Trust you found all was well upon arriving back in Fernie.   The Corwsnest Pass must have been something.  We were on the TC last year and ended up having to make a 300km + diversion through Rocky Mountain House because a mudslide just north of Banff.

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Save yourself a job - just buy loads of B1's mi duck (and the odd K3) :sarcastichand:

 

Hope you've survived the flooding OK... :O

Those B1s *are* lovely though... I do have one knocking around. Maybe I'll put the V1 and V2 up for sale...

 

Got home with no problems. One stretch of road lost half of its width for 1/2 mile (2 lanes went down river).

 

Basement, and the railway room are ok too :D . Supposed to rain until Friday then 29C and blue skies! Just in time for Canada Day weekend.

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It went from very wet to very hot (38C yesterday). I'm sat in the basement at the moment doing some admin and keeping cool, and our dog is sleeping with his tongue lolling around even though there is a fan trained on him. He's currently on treats that look uncannily like ice cubes (non-fattening as well!) It's hard to remember that about a month ago we had 2" of snow!

 

My modelling mojo is on the wain at the moment, so nothing new to report there. I've been doing some bits and pieces trying to get the locos running better, and to fix the odd issue with the track that I thought I'd fixed a while ago. In the meantime I've been looking at all of the information that everyone has been kind enough to send to me either via these posts or in other ways. It's really appreciated, and has helped me nail down some details that would have otherwise passed me by.

 

As you will have guessed by now, I also keep an eye out for interesting things on Ebay related to Wainfleet and Skegness. There isn't a lot Wainfleet specific, but I was lucky enough to find this (although I've just seen that another one has been posted since). If anyone is in interested, I can pm or email a larger copy of this image to them. It was unusual to advertise Wainfleet as well as Skegness on these leaflets. I'm wondering why people would want to get off the train 5 miles from the coast.

 

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I haven't got one, but I've also seen these hand bills specifically advertise DMU excursions as well. I'm assuming that this was a particular draw in the 1950s and 1960s

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As you will have guessed by now, I also keep an eye out for interesting things on Ebay related to Wainfleet and Skegness. There isn't a lot Wainfleet specific, but I was lucky enough to find this (although I've just seen that another one has been posted since). If anyone is in interested, I can pm or email a larger copy of this image to them. It was unusual to advertise Wainfleet as well as Skegness on these leaflets. I'm wondering why people would want to get off the train 5 miles from the coast.

 

 

Perhaps Wainfleet was the destination for those who wanted it a little less bracing?

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Any progress on the Waiting Room build? I've missed keeping updated with this thread :(

Thanks for the interest :) The heat is sapping my energy at the moment, and the river is a-calling but I'm heading down to the dungeon in a minute to tidy up and assess the situation.

 

Theakerr popped over to see his son last week and dropped in while he was here, which was lovely. There aren't too any of us modellers south of Calgary.

 

A claim to fame for Wainfleet - it's slightly less windy than Skegness!

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Well I've managed to get below ground for an hour, and the coolness down here has done wonders for both me and the puppy (I say puppy, he's rapidly heading towards 80lb, that's 115cm in new money). And it's around now that I have a confession to make. Although the track is down and ballasted on the scenic section, it's merely tacked with drawing pins "around the back". Well I'm recitfying this right now. I have my soldering iron out, and I'm soldering the flexible track together on the corners and cutting out 1/32" cork to finally get the mainline down proper. I've also girded my loins to rip up a curve leading out of the station towards Skegness. I mentioned a while back about doing something you know is wrong because you are in a rush. That wrong has now bitten me on the backside, and the curve will have to be taken up so that I can solder the flexible track to get rid of the slight kink where the track ends meet. A stitch in time and all that.

 

Other news, my Bachmann J11 has actually come to life after being an almost ran for quite sometime. I've no idea why as I've not done anything with it for a couple of months. Maybe that's it! Putting the decoder into a split chassis put it into shock! Anyway, have banjo, will pickup (yep, I'm reeallly uncool), I'll have a go at some point at putting banjo string wipers on the tender wheels. That'll be quite some way down the list though.

 

Anyway, the only real problem loco I have now is the new style Hornby A4 (Commonwealth of Australia). It'll go around the outside curve without a problem, but on the inside curve it short circuits. This is strange as both curves are slightly more than a 24 inch radius. I've done this to produce a wider gap in the middle of the curve to stop the stock on each of the two lines from catching on each other - the inside curve starts slightly earlier than the outside curve to compensate.

 

Does anyone any ideas?

 

It looks like the mojo is back, the chicken is on the BBQ, and the B&B guests from Texas, California and Florida (an all American house tonight) are upstairs watching TV, g'night y'all!

 

p.s. Photos tomorrow!

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Tearing up the curve was nowhere near as bad as I'd feared. I had left a gap between the ends of the rails, so all I had to do was get a screwdriver to scrape away the ballast, use a file to "straighten up" the track to a good looking curve, then solder the result (though I'd have to say that I'm expecting the god of soldering to smite me for the crack-handed soldering I managed). Job done, and I no longer need to feel guilty looking at the nasty kink.

 

The best news is that all of my locos go through the curve now without bouncing off the rails!

 

Right, off for a jump in the river, back soon for another session later this afternoon.

 

P.s. thanks for looking in, I promise to make it worth your while soon :)

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Nasty soldering, but a much smoother transition. In the end I only had to dislodge ballast from a half dozen sleepers each side

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This got me an interesting conversation with the checkout at my supermarket. Yes, it's clear nail varnish. Good for stopping ladders in tights by all accounts. :) Also good for insulating Peco insulfrog turnouts when locos short out on them.

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Runway one - this will be the Canadian part of the layout, and is also the mainline for Wainfleet. The chassis is for the Deltic. Theakerr was telling me that there could be a problem with the Digitrax system and some Locsound decoders. If I can't get them to work together, the decoder may end up in the classifieds.

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A view across the room - not tidied up, and plenty of coffee! The good thing about the curtained cupboard is that I'll be able to go in there and take photos from the opposite side.

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I can categorically state that the AC4400 probably didn't make it into the Eastern Region in reality...

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Hi Freebs - would you believe I was watching them go round yesterday morning? It's been bugging me that I hadn't finished laying the track for a while now. It'll be a while before its all ballasted, I can promise you that! Little matter of that waiting room first.

 

Hi Mick, thanks for that. It's great news for Wainfleet station! The boys in the signal box weren't too optimistic when I was there, oh, last September I think it was. Skegness was there too. It's shocking to think only 26 will be listed out of 10,000 at the peak. I hope the box gets a few coats of paint, and that they slap any leftover paint on the waiting room.

 

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I have the following incomplete records for the 1948-1965 timespan:-

LNER Class C1, D2, D11, B17, B1, V2, K1, K2, K3, L1, J39, J11

LMS Class 5, Crab, 4F 0-6-0, Ivatt Class 4 possibly Jubilee 45635 6-7-1963

BR Standard-Britannia, 9F

 

 

30/07/1960 AUGUST BANK HOLIDAY TRAFFIC Saturday 30/7/60 (Steam Railway 113, Steam World 134)         Skegness Arrivals             (* Additional Arrivals)         61144/43157   Leicester (Belgrave Road)   0840hrs M959*             61894/61889   Skegness        0932hrs               61826     Shirebrook     0938hrs               61870     Basford North     0948hrs               61142     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1000hrs M961*             61767     Nottingham Victoria     1003hrs               61339     Leeds       1010hrs               61852     Derby Friargate     1033hrs               61107/61348   Chesterfield Central     1051hrs               DMU     Lincoln       1100hrs               61391     Kings Cross     1109hrs Butlin's Special-Second Class only       61967     Sheffield       1119hrs               61285     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1125hrs               61177     Nottingham Victoria     1148hrs               61310     Sheffield       1200hrs               DMU     Grantham       1206hrs               61899     Bradford       1217hrs               61214     Manchester Central     1228hrs               61384     Enfield Chase     1234hrs               61393     Leeds       1240hrs               61837     Sheffield Midland     1246hrs               61313     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1300hrs M963*             61947     Kidsgrove       1310hrs W582*             61888     Manchester London Road   1313hrs               61042     Kings Norton     1322hrs               DMU     Lincoln       1339hrs               61247     Derby Friargate     1355hrs               Also recorded:                           61374     0845hrs Grimsby-Kings Cross                   61379 Mayflower    0920hrs Cleethorpes-Kings Cross                 61190     At c0930hrs Little Steeping northbound light engine               63819     At c1020hrs Little Steeping on northbound freight                61235     1058hrs Peterborough-Grimsby                                                 Mablethorpe Arrivals         (* Additional Arrivals)               61088     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   0910hrs M960*             61163     Basford North     1018hrs               61251 Oliver Bury   Nottingham Victoria     1032hrs               61036     Doncaster       1100hrs               61141     Nottingham Victoria     1147hrs               61092     Leicester (Belgrave Road)   1231hrs               61000 Springbok   Derby Friargate     1244hrs               612**     Manchester Central     1313hrs               Locomotive substituted for 61728 (Hot box) at Lincoln                                                   Skegness Departures (* Additional Departures)                     43080     Kings Cross      0905hrs               43157     Coventry       0912hrs M980*             61926     Manchester Central     0927hrs               61144     Kings Cross     0934hrs Butlin's Special-Second Class only       DMU     Grantham       1012hrs               61894     York       1055hrs               61826     Shirebrook     1102hrs               61339     Leeds       1114hrs               61870     Nottingham Victoria     1124hrs               61889     Sheffield Victoria     1133hrs               61348     Manchester Central     1147hrs               61142     Derby Friargate     1155hrs M981*             61058     Sheffield Victoria     1203hrs               61391     Kings Cross     1215hrs Butlin's Special-Second Class only       61767     Derby Friargate     1228hrs               43091     Peterborough     1235hrs               DMU     Grantham       1252hrs               61285     Nottingham Victoria     1320hrs               61852#     Leicester Belgrave Road   1332hrs               61107#     Chesterfield Central     1347hrs               61899#     Bradford       1359hrs               61177#     Basford North     1412hrs               61042#     Kings Norton     1420hrs               61393#     Leeds       1430hrs               61967#     Sheffield Victoria     1452hrs               61247 Lord Burghley# Derby Friargate     1504hrs               61837#     Sheffield Midland     1520hrs                                             Mablethorpe Departures   (* Additional Departures)                 61209     Nottingham     0950hrs M982*             61258     Sheffield Victoria     1010hrs 561*             61088     Derby Friargate     1115hrs M983*             61163     Basford North     1150hrs               61036 Ralph Assheton Doncaster       1220hrs               61251 Oliver Bury   Nottingham Victoria     1233hrs               61141#     Nottingham Victoria     1335hrs               61092#     Leicester Belgrave Road   1352hrs               61000 Springbok#   Derby Friargate     1425hrs               61202#     Manchester Central     1510hrs                                             # Assumed to have worked their booked trains All times are scheduled arrivals/departures                                                                  

 

 

 

Thanks for posting these notes. They bring memories back for me, as I lived by the line between Boston and Sleaford during the 60s and early 70s, and although my mother "lost" my steam era spotting notes at some point after I left home, the types of loco listed do agree with my hazy memories. Mind you, only the south Midlands services would have passed our house. I only really remember B1s, K3s and Ivatt 4MTs on summer excursion trains before diesels began to take over, although there may have been the occasional K2 very early in the decade, but they vanished very quickly and were soon followed by the K3s to the scrapyard.

 

There were a fair number of K3s until 1963, but I remember wondering why I had not seen hardly any that year - a question that was answered with a shock when I saw the latest Ian Allan ABC late in 63 and discovered how few there were left.

 

The Grantham to Skegness weekend services in the 60s (during the weekday most trains from Grantham only ran to Boston) were strengthened regularly to 6-car 114s (i.e. 3 units together) with an occasional Cravens unit in the mix, and occasionally an 8-car formation could be seen on a Saturday. At one time, there was also a service from the West Midlands, which seemed to vary between Kings Norton and Walsall as starting points IIRC. This tended to be either two or three Metro-Cammell 3-car units which were almost unknown on that line otherwise, forming either a 6-car or 9-car set, but I can't remember for how many years this service ran with these units.

 

Soon, even the B1s had gone and all the dated trains and excursions were in the 'hands' of 31s, 25s and a few 37s. I do vaguely remember a pair of 20s on passenger trains in the 1960s, maybe on a couple of occasions, but they tended to be a feature from the early 70s onwards.

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The summer Sundays of 1959 certainly saw class 20, 21, 23, 26, and 31 working to Skegness, but I never saw them working in pairs. Wasn't aware of the class 16s but that can be justification for it on my layout based on Boston.

 

I know that I am a bit late commenting on this statement, but could you supply the references for these workings?

 

All that I have found so far, is that on 23rd July 1961 a Baby Deltic D5909 was used on a Biggleswade to Mablethorpe excursion, but that would not have passed through Wainfleet.

 

I would have grave doubts about any unconfirmed reports of class 15s or 16s venturing that far. I saw a few 15s on the GN&GE, but only when they were being towed to Doncaster works for a good seeing to.

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Inspired by Lee (Freebs) who is building a version of the waiting room in Wainfleet, I'm going to make a start on the original version. I'm ashamed to say this is almost two months after posting the intention to make a start! Anyway, post #127 gives the details of the waiting room along with the plan that I've just printed off here.

 

My intention is to use a sandwich of two layers of thin foam card for the main walls - one with the windows, and one with the "fiddly stuff" (insert architectural words here), finally the blue bricks of the lower wall will be matt card used in picture framing - this is the same as that used on the preserved(!) signal box. The windows will be cut, as usual with the silhouette cutter, and to match the signal box, the roof will be Scalescenes. That said, I wish now I'd painted the signal box roof.

 

Right, kitchen cleanup and I'll make a start.

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Well, that's everything cut out I'm not going to be winning prizes for speed, nor accuracy of intent. I forgot just how thick the foamboard is, so I'm using matt card for everything except the floor now. The little notches at the top were b****rs!post-14192-0-16269000-1375235166_thumb.jpg

 

Edited to say: I've cut the sides and bottom of each window, but I haven't cut the curved portion. I'll do this after I've glued the two layers together to ensure that the arch has the same profile on both layers.

 

Next, wallpapering with brick!

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The other thing that I've done in preparation is manipulate the photos that I took of the waiting room the last time that I was in England to see if I could use them as wallpaper instead of using Scalescenes. While it's an interesting idea that I'm sure will work on the station building proper, the fact that there are a number of layers, and the fact that I'd have to be very accurate indeed with the cuttings means I've decided to use Scalescenes after all for the main brick, and the photos for the arches. I'll be using the watercolour pen-brush again that I used on the signal box to weather the brickwork - it worked well enough before.

 

The other thing that the photo below does is keep me on the straight and narrow and ensure that I don't miss any of the "twiddly bits". One thing that will be interesting is that there is a single middle layer of brick between the outer and inner at the top, and two below the end of each window arch! Why would you do that? :-/ Only joking!

 

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The image above shows the two ends tacked onto the front. This mimics the drawing that I did some time ago on post #127

 

A comparison with the signal box using Scalescenes and weathering (sorry about the repeat showing for this photo).

 

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I know, I know, no posts in yonks and suddenly there are three in one day!

 

G'night.

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