Headstock Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Mine got a new cab roof, with a thin metal sheet detailed with T and L section brass rather than the thick and incorrect casting. The Gibson roof is wrong in this respect too. Although it is a flat etch with an overlay for the angles, it also goes right to the edges. I am also a bit puzzled by the whistle placement on the two kits as illustrated. I have never seen them anywhere but on top of the cab roof but maybe there is a variant I haven't seen before. Perhaps one for TW to include in his "upgrade". Good afternoon t-b-g, could you explain the issue with the Gibson roof in a little more detail, a photo would be great if you have one. It sounds as if it is something that I would wish to rectify during the construction of the kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 That teak-finished non-vestibule coach on the previous page is beautifully modelled, even though it's a Thompson item! Thank you very much Mr King, It's not really a Thompson item, unlike Gresley, I doubt if the man himself had anything to do with the design of the carriages that we all refer to as 'Thompson'. Strip away the steel panels, and despite some dimensional differences, you have a very traditional LNER Gresley carriage underneath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 I would agree with what others have said with regard to tractors being roped on to a wagon, usualy via the buffer shanks. I don't think I've ever seen one on a Conflat, though others may have. http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/s/saffron_walden/saffron(1961)walden_old14.jpg Thanks Andrew, Some time ago someone posted a picture with tractor engines on a Conflat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 J11s? I think it does wonders for the appearance of kit built J11s if the builder takes the trouble to depart from the kit-manufacturer's usual incorrect arrangement and instead move the angle-irons in from the extreme edges of the roof, to where they really were (inboard from the edges) on the actual locos, and to carefully make the top front corners of the cab the right shape. That done, I don't think the Little engines J11 for instance gives much if anything away to the Bachmann loco in terms of appearance and it will certainly pull with a decent can motor fully hidden upright in the firebox - with no gear housing of any sort intruding unrealistically into the space that should be empty under the boiler. Accepting reality, my thinking has already moved on from Mashima motors. What hope, if any, is there that they'll ever be manufactured again? Will those already in existence start to command ridiculous price like whining Portescaps? There are plenty of other motors to be had, very cheaply, on eBay, some of them very good. Use of them simply calls for willingness to be flexible and inventive regarding fitting arrangements. That teak-finished non-vestibule coach on the previous page is beautifully modelled, even though it's a Thompson item! Goof afternoon Graeme, I've taken to using Canon's medium-sized alternative to Mashimas, married to a Comet gearbox. Not cheap (though cheaper than Mashimas), but beautifully-smooth. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Goof afternoon Graeme, I've taken to using Canon's medium-sized alternative to Mashimas, married to a Comet gearbox. Not cheap (though cheaper than Mashimas), but beautifully-smooth. Regards, Tony. Tony, Is there a link to the source of the medium-sized Canon motors, please? Though the Mitsumis are fine for small to medium locos, I would be interested in trying a Canon in something larger - 10100 'The Fell' for instance !! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Goof afternoon Graeme, I've taken to using Canon's medium-sized alternative to Mashimas, married to a Comet gearbox. Not cheap (though cheaper than Mashimas), but beautifully-smooth. Regards, Tony. Do you have a reference number for the Canon motors? Or a supplier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Do you have a reference number for the Canon motors? Or a supplier? I believe it's this one. Scroll down for the link to the gearbox. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/locomotive/ca1620/ Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Absolutely... maybe it's because Geoff is an architectural modeller.... but there is so much to look at, it doesn't need the trains for interest! DSC04395.jpg DSC04411.jpg Agree and yet I believe the stock and locos are RTR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I believe J11(s) appeared on the M&GN at some point, though the detail of it escapes me. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom F Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Agree and yet I believe the stock and locos are RTR. True, for me... I'd go with more kit (wagons possibly coaches) for variety. Each to their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I believe it's this one. Scroll down for the link to the gearbox. https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/locomotive/ca1620/ Jason Jason, That link doesn't work for me. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Jason, That link doesn't work for me. Regards, John Isherwood. The Wizard Models site hasn't loaded for me all day. I have a picture of a J11 64420 at South Lynn on August 1st 1953. It is in Aspects of East Anglian Steam Volume 2. According to the BR Database site the loco was shedded at Colwick at this time. Martyn Martyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I think there is something wrong with the website. It was working fine before. I'm getting Error establishing a database connection Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2018 I was searching for OLEO buffers when it crashed Sorry! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headstock Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Thanks Andrew, Some time ago someone posted a picture with tractor engines on a Conflat. Tony, Tractor engines? Do you mean just the engine block, or am I just being dim? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Wizard's site seems to be working for me, even via my slow marine satellite link. The wallet is crying - but that's another story... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 27, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 27, 2018 Oh dear not sure what I need, I have some A1 of the correct type but not sure which are same as 51L A0011 18" OLEO May be this one? https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/wagons/abwc018l/ Error establishing a database connection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Clanger Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I am aware of the website problem - the webmaster is on to it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Tony, Is there a link to the source of the medium-sized Canon motors, please? Though the Mitsumis are fine for small to medium locos, I would be interested in trying a Canon in something larger - 10100 'The Fell' for instance !! Regards, John Isherwood. John, I've fitted the Canon/Comet combination now in four locos of different sizes. One's gone in a 9F, another in an O2/1, a further one in a K2 and the last in a J6 (the last-mentioned was a bit of a squeeze). In every case, there's more than ample power (the 9F will take over 50 wagons - I don't have anything longer!), as will the O2. The other two never (need to) pull anything as heavy. I don't have a serial number for the Canon motors I used (all the same) because I chuck any packaging away. However, just contact Andrew at Wizard/MSE/Comet and he'll have the motors and the appropriate gearboxes. They'll power the Fell with ease (just one of them). Regards, Tony. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Do you have a reference number for the Canon motors? Or a supplier? Please see my post above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 I believe J11(s) appeared on the M&GN at some point, though the detail of it escapes me. Stewart Pre-War I think Stewart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Tony, Tractor engines? Do you mean just the engine block, or am I just being dim? The whole engines, I think. Anyway, I'll settle the issue by putting the tractor on a 'Lowfit'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 The Wizard Models site hasn't loaded for me all day. I have a picture of a J11 64420 at South Lynn on August 1st 1953. It is in Aspects of East Anglian Steam Volume 2. According to the BR Database site the loco was shedded at Colwick at this time. Martyn Martyn Thanks Martyn, It probably came through Little Bytham (or from Peterborough?), so that's the 'excuse' I need to put one on the M&GNR. The timescale for the smaller railway is much more flexible (Rule 1 applies); anything from Nationalisation until the line's closure. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) Agree and yet I believe the stock and locos are RTR. I think you're right, Alan, However, I imagine that Geoff (like you) has altered his RTR stock to make it more realistic. Knowing him well, his architectural modelling is unsurpassed, but, as far as I know, he's not a loco/stock builder, so exploits what the RTR trade in that department has to offer - wisely? However, that's not for me (as is well known) and, anyway, where could I get Thompson Pacifics straight from a box, or any big engines capable of hauling prodigious loads? Or the myriad of different coaching stock items required for LB? Regards, Tony. Edited October 27, 2018 by Tony Wright Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 John, I've fitted the Canon/Comet combination now in four locos of different sizes. One's gone in a 9F, another in an O2/1, a further one in a K2 and the last in a J6 (the last-mentioned was a bit of a squeeze). In every case, there's more than ample power (the 9F will take over 50 wagons - I don't have anything longer!), as will the O2. The other two never (need to) pull anything as heavy. I don't have a serial number for the Canon motors I used (all the same) because I chuck any packaging away. However, just contact Andrew at Wizard/MSE/Comet and he'll have the motors and the appropriate gearboxes. They'll power the Fell with ease (just one of them). Regards, Tony. I have fitted the Canon/Comet combination to a SEF J38 I have just finished.It is the quietest and smoothest drive train I have used.I haven't tested its haulage capabilities but I am confident from the "feel" of its torque that it would be fit for duty on LB.It will also move at an almost imperceptible crawl.In future this will be my preferred drive train. Tony, it was good to meet you and Mo in Sydney and thank you again for being such an enthusiastic and involved presenter in our convention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now