Earl Bathurst Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Hi Dont know if anyone can help but is there a place where you would have seen steam hauled trains from the Western, Souther, Midland region work together or just pass. The only place i can think of is the S&D which had various stock run over the line. Hope someone can help and if there are pictures that would be very helpful Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Oxford or Reading; also the West London line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 By the mid-60s, much of the London, Bournemouth and Weymouth route was fair game for LMR types (mostly Black 5s and 8Fs) since many were overhauled at Eastleigh and were sent on running in turns. Some of these got as far as Weymouth and Salisbury (where WR types were very common) on occasion. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted November 29, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2012 When I was trainspotting Eastleigh was quite a good place for spotting different types. Various inter regional trains produced WR types, mainly Halls. I saw WR moguls (53xx, 63xx, 73xx) and the occasional Manor there. As far as ex-LMS types go, in the very early 60s before Eastleigh got its allocation of 9fs the Fawley - Bromsgrove Bridge oil trains used to produce quite spectacular ex -LMS locos on a regular basis. It used to pass going north at around 4pm, we used to belt up from school to try and see it. I copped my first Patriot (45504), Jubilee (45662) and Royal Scot (46122) on this train.Those were the headline grabbers, I can't remember what, if any, of the more mundane classes were represented on this train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted November 29, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2012 The fat controller beat me to it, but I was going to offer the West London line. Souther, Western and LM regions all ran into KPA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobrien Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 On occasions engines from all four regions could be seen in Bristol. Eastern Region B1's worked regularly to Bristol particularly during the Summer season until 1964. Midland and Western engines were allocated to the Bristol Sheds, Barrow Road and St Philips Marsh respectively and both types were allocated to Barrow Road on the closure of the Marsh in June 1964. Southern engines were much more rare, but did appear occasionally on Football Specials, Troop Specials and taking children to Bristol Zoo. In addition West Country Pacifics in 1964/65 often brought condemned engines into Bristol on their way to South Wales scrapyards. There is a video of a Southern Pacific hauling engines through Temple Meads in Tery Nicholls "Railways around Bristol" Here are some photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5154259356/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5251623840/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5360215382/in/set-72157625157165429 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I was thinking Bath and the S&D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Thanks for the info. It has been most useful. So I could base my layout loosley on Bristol area and i can run all my stock then with a reason. (so to speak) Thanks for those pictures they were really good Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 SR loco's could be seen on Portsmouth-Cardiff services in Bristol, though they avoided Temple Meads via "the Rhubarb". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Cashmore's, Cohen's, Woodham's.......................... Running for cover..................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Oxford would probably be the best. All bar the kings from the western. Plenty of southern and midland locos and some eastern with the link to the GC. I suppose it depends on what type of stuff you wish to run. Bristol would be good if you want to mix western with midland with a bit of Southern as they used jubilees patriots and scots on the Bristol Newcastle trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Well i have a mix of Western, Midland and Souther. But my layout is only track at present so want to decide what type of buildings to use on the station area, What would be the best type of station building to use? I have 2 platforms so will have a main building on 1 side and a small waiting room on the other. Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobrien Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Lawrence Hill or Stapleton Road Stations in Bristol would cater for locos from all four regions. It was on the mainline to South Wales, but was used for trains to London (The Bristolian), Birmingham and the North East (The Devonian and other expresses) as well as for trains from the South Coast which avoided Temple Meads on their way to South Wales. It would also be the route for Southern engines working to Bristol Zoo or Troop specials to South Wales. Their were originally four lines in steam days, then reduced to two and likely to have the closed lines reinstated in the near future. Some views of Lawrence Hill in steam days http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/6012337328/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5400478773/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5650193198/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5274232838/ The former Midland mainline (closed in 1969 and now a cycle track) crossed the lines through Lawrence Hill Station http://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/6011790053/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidnutter Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 At a stretch you could have seen all four at Banbury. LNWR into Merton street, DCL mainline, GC from Woodford Halse. It has also been known the odd Southern type to slip north of Oxford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 2, 2012 Oxford would probably be the best. All bar the kings from the western. Plenty of southern and midland locos and some eastern with the link to the GC. I suppose it depends on what type of stuff you wish to run. Bristol would be good if you want to mix western with midland with a bit of Southern as they used jubilees patriots and scots on the Bristol Newcastle trains. I agree regarding Oxford in particular regular through working of an Eastern loco (invariably a B1 in later years) from the GC through to Swindon plus other occasional sightings). Regular Southern appearances on passenger trains although I believe that normally on freight Southern locos didn't go west of Moreton Cutting (and possibly Didcot; at one time there was a regular Q1 working to Moreton Cutting). Regular LM appearances of various types with freight working through to Hinksey yard plus 8Fs and Black5s occasionally working further south and latterly some regular turns for LMR engines through to Basingstoke and regular workings of 'Duck Eights' off the Bletchley line. Thus overall I would rate Oxford as the best. And yes Bristol would be good as well as others have already said. I wouldn't rate Banbury too highly because although it saw a lot of Eastern workings off the GC I don't think it saw very much of ex LMS types until they were working on the GC route - at which point both 8Fs and Black 5s became regular features and they also of course infiltrated onto the WR line north (and south) once it had gone over to LM control. The point you do have to watch - if you are concerned about it - is the question of era as things changed a lot over the years. In this respect Oxford scores again as it saw engines from all four of the grouped companies on a regular basis going back pre 1948 although back then through working of freight engines was much less common. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Bathurst Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Thanks again all for the infomation its proving very useful. The era im modelling starts from about 1950- 1968 ish. At least if i used somehwere in oxford i could use some eastern region stock as i am very tempted with the Hornby B1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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