Russell Saxton Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 You'll be lucky! There were only two and possibly three, D25/6 and maybe D100 and in 30 years searching I've found two shots total, one of which is very poor and one of which is definitely D25 but unclear as to green or blue, though cabside serif numbers indicate economy green.It had a lion emblem in mid 1966 so not an early blue job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Thanks Russell, so the likelihood is that they where in economy green and not original green with full yellow ends as per D193. They certainly are elusive in this version. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Yes, well 25 was anyway, 26 I think was lined out and if 100 was-which I don't know for sure-it was also lined out. 100....well I just don't know. Surely there is a shot of it in green taken in the summer of 69 (there's a song in that somewhere) that will confirm or deny. I know I saw the bloody thing, I know I did, but the more time goes on the less sure I feel but I KNOW I saw it and I even wrote it in the back of my 1970s spotting notes listing all the pre TOPS locos I saw with a note it had GFYE and I wrote that 35 years or more ago. Maybe it was GFYE one end only, it's possible.I even remember it having the secondman's window surround unpainted and that it was running no 2 end first on a mixed freight, on the slow lines! I don't think I dreamt it..... Bear in mind I lived near to the MML and yet I have no memory at all of seeing a GFYE 44, not once. There were 4 of them but I do not recall seeing any! I clearly remember ex works blue no 2, being quite disappointed at seeing 8 blue as I recall it in GSYP shunting the local yard circa 1968 and wondering what the hell a Penyghent was, and I clearly recall cabbing D45 and being terrified aged maybe 3 or 4 at Derby Midland. And seeing GSYP 46s on the NESW trains with all blue/grey stock, 141 and 189 were common sights. One of these days a phot will emerge.. Edited July 30, 2015 by Russell Saxton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Of the GFYE 46s, 138, 154, 155, 188 and 193 were lined out, 159 and 166 weren't. I hae collected shots of every one of the 44s and 46s in GFYE but more or less nowt for the 45s. If anyone knows of more.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 When did those 46s receive FYE Russ? As you know, I have D25 on fleet strength for Summer '68 in eGFYE but I'd love to have excuse and legitimate reason to dial-in a 46 as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) This is the gen I have for dates of GFYE for the few 46s that had it. There were many green locos with panels into 1971 and 147/63/5 lasted into 1972, 165 was lined. 138 Green SYP 30/1/71 FYE by 22/2/71 In works Dec 71 blue by 1/2/72154 SYP 2/3/71 and FYE 19/3/71 so March 71!155 SYP 16/1/71 FYE 13/3/71159 SYP 30/1/71 GFYE 10/4/71 still GFYE 18/12/71 Blue-dunno! reported RO July 72 so sometime between December 71-May 72. 166 SYP 21/6/69 reported FYE RO Oct 69 still GFYE 18/7/70 blue ex works 16/10/70188 First 27/9/69 blue by 19/8/70193 First 15/1/70 still GFYE 2/10/70 blue by 22/12/70 Edited July 30, 2015 by Russell Saxton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Sadly, no GFYE Peaks before 1969..The four 44s in this style were all done post 1970. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Thanks bud. Those NE machines really were disreputable weren't they! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 After a few weeks of seriously intensive research I think I now have the full lowdown on peak liveries of the 1965-73 era with dates green to blue and I'll be publishing it all in Railways Illustrated shortly so look out for it, December issue.Aren't I a tease.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 http://www.railwaysillustrated.com/ It's out tomorrow and lists the repaint dates green to blue of all the Peaks plus dates of FYE where known. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 http://www.railwaysillustrated.com/ It's out tomorrow and lists the repaint dates green to blue of all the Peaks plus dates of FYE where known. Russell, I have just been reading your Green to Blue Peak article and have a couple of queries. In the list of "Dates to Blue", the following locos, 179,180,181,183,184,185, don't have a year date posted, it just says xx/xx/19 with the year not complete or a copy error. I assume the error is that it should say 69 not 19 but could you please confirm the correct dates for these locos. Many thanks. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Yes I spotted that. I have alerted RI and they will publish a correction but in the meantime the correct dates are as follows. 179 25/03/1967 180 06/10/1967 181 15/12/1966 183 24/12/1966 184 07/11/1966 185 08/12/1966Dates GENERALLY refer to release to traffic though in a few cases it refers to date the work was done, a few days before but there is no way to differentiate. The works records are not that detailed sadly though to know the month is probably enough for most modellers. I hope anyway! Edited November 12, 2015 by Russell Saxton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 There is one other that as is the way of these things came to light after the event, GFYE no 25 also lost its D prefix along with 30.Hope you enjoyed the article and found the gen useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) There is one other that as is the way of these things came to light after the event, GFYE no 25 also lost its D prefix along with 30. Hope you enjoyed the article and found the gen useful. Yes Russell I've found all you livery articles interesting. That period of BR fascinates me for the multitude of livery and number variations, and the fact that info is so hard to come by so makes if a bit of fun trying to find it. I do like a good mystery! Paul J. PS. Thanks for the correction to the info. Edited November 13, 2015 by Swindon 123 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 As you can imagine, the article is so well-thumbed by me now, I will soon have to buy another copy! 25 is a personal fave, can't wait to get my W/B back and her upon it in autumn '68 condition.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 I don't know when 25 got GFYE, the shot is dated 15/2/69 so it may have been as much as two years beforehand. It wasn't long after as the article shows another shot of it ex works blue a few weeks later.I suspect it was not that much previously as so few shots exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Saxton Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 As is the way of these another typo that slipped by me. D172 is listed as repainted by Brush 14/10/66 which it WAS serviced by but remained in economy green until late 1970.I missed updating it as I screened the dates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchStanton Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 An old thread, I know, but I've just bought Russell's book Green to Blue - and very good it is too. However, I do have a picture of D141 in GSYP taken at Tinsley in Spring 1971. (Slide dated June 1971). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted May 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2021 Russ you owe me a beer. 14:20 in the video here, a very clear GFYE D25 at Mangotsfield in 1969. I spat my tea out in excitement (that's it for me this week in the excitement stakes, blood pressure can't take it). You tube won't allow embedding of this video unfortunately. https://youtu.be/bPuGERb4I30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Downendian said: Russ you owe me a beer. 14:20 in the video here, a very clear GFYE D25 at Mangotsfield in 1969. I spat my tea out in excitement (that's it for me this week in the excitement stakes, blood pressure can't take it). You tube won't allow embedding of this video unfortunately. https://youtu.be/bPuGERb4I30 Slightly off topic, but serifed D57 in BSYWP at 5 mins or so, D58 at 12 mins. Mike. Edited May 14, 2021 by Enterprisingwestern 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 55020 Posted May 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2021 13 hours ago, Downendian said: Russ you owe me a beer. 14:20 in the video here, a very clear GFYE D25 at Mangotsfield in 1969. I spat my tea out in excitement (that's it for me this week in the excitement stakes, blood pressure can't take it). You tube won't allow embedding of this video unfortunately. https://youtu.be/bPuGERb4I30 What a fantastic video, thanks for posting the link. I've subscribed to the channel and hope there's many more great videos to come. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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