Pre Grouping fan Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Good to see actual hex head crankpin screws this time. Hopefully thst can be carried through to the next batch of yeo/exe/taw. Slight shame about the green but Lyd is lighter than Lyd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I recieved my LYD on Saturday, and finallyhad chance to test run her yesterday. I was pleased to se she sailed through my large radius Peco points without need for adjustment to the pony springs or pickups. I have two from the second batch and have had to remove the springs and pickups from the pony trucksto make them behave, so I'm not sure exactly what alterations Heljan have made, but they do seem to be taking comments on board and acting on them which is good to see. I could of course, have just got lucky. I do think the front and back ends are a little over engineered, and they run fun with just driving wheel pickups so may alter it in the future if prolonged use show signs of issues. The green is maybe a touch light and yellowy when viewed next to the SR locos, but on her own, LYD looks pretty close to a scale approximation of the right colour, depending on what light the prototype and model are viewed in. Of course, the roof profile isn't correct for LYD as running on the FfR, but I suspect that was a tooling cost too far, and is understandable. The nameplates being in the extra details bag is a nice touch. Easy enough to fit yourself, but equally easy to replace with etched examples without ruining the finish of the model. Mine is currently at work with a representation of the 2015 Superpower train she hauled, minus Welsh Pony's boiler and frames on the bogie wagon, and for some reason, I've forgotten the brake van too! Cheers J 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted August 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2019 My LYD arrived today. Its currently running in very smoothly on my test circuit with no derailments at all so far 20 minutes in each direction. Radius is about 15 inches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I took delivery of yet another MW a few days ago, Taw in Southern Livery, although I have been digital since 1997 and have fitted more decoders in locos than I care to remember, feeling a little lazy I ordered it with a decoder pre fitted by the retailer, I was a little concerned that all would not be well, but within 24 hours the loco arrived, it runs extremely smoothly no derailments at all. I am contemplating a Black liveried Next. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 07:20, roundhouse said: My LYD arrived today. Its currently running in very smoothly on my test circuit with no derailments at all so far 20 minutes in each direction. Radius is about 15 inches. Does the model of Lyd come with nameplates to put onto the tanks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, 9402 Fredrick said: Does the model of Lyd come with nameplates to put onto the tanks? Yes it does, they are in the bag with couplings and vac/steam heat pipes. At least it saves damaging the paint work by removing factory fitted ones if you want to change them for etched ones. And also saves them from being put on askew in the factory! Cheers J 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just a follow up from my post from the other day re the MW, The only out of the box 'adjustments' I have made are to ease off the pony truck centreing springs so they have almost no effect on the actual centering and remove the top bar from the 'cow catchers' centre section only not the sides, to allow the couplers to move freely and hence not inhibit free sideways movement of the pony trucks ( as the couplers are a direct fit onto the ponies), I have not made any adjustment to the pony wheel power pickups! The loco runs fine on Peco 12", 18" and 'Y' 009 points. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymzHatstand Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Stevelewis said: ... and remove the top bar from the 'cow catchers' centre section only not the sides, to allow the couplers to move freely and hence not inhibit free sideways movement of the pony trucks ( as the couplers are a direct fit onto the ponies), Now, that is something I'll be doing! I've fitted NEM pocket Greenwich couplings to mine, with a crank bent into the shaft to clear the cowcatcher. They work, but are a bit wobbly, though I have been able to double head them on occasion! Cheers J 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Something I have noticed re the Early Mark one locos and current production...…. the current ones are around 17% lighter than the Mark ones. The Mk 1 locos weigh 138 gram ( as confimed in Model Rails 'Britain's Model Trains' Annuals) whilst the latest versions weigh around 115 -116gms. This does not make much difference to adhesion though as even the lighter ones have adequate pulling power for most requirements! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coline33 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 In the August 20 post about Heljan LYD, mention is make of the SR green being lighter than the others. I am told it is 'Urie green' a colour in which the prototype was delivered and repainted 'Maunsell green' later. I hope this is correct as the LYD that hauled my train at Woody Bay matched LYN. Will Heljan be releasing their LYD in the darker green later? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, coline33 said: In the August 20 post about Heljan LYD, mention is make of the SR green being lighter than the others. I am told it is 'Urie green' a colour in which the prototype was delivered and repainted 'Maunsell green' later. I hope this is correct as the LYD that hauled my train at Woody Bay matched LYN. Will Heljan be releasing their LYD in the darker green later? Possibly, but given that the market seems heavily stocked with MWs at the present time, a further livery may be some time away. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Stevelewis said: Something I have noticed re the Early Mark one locos and current production...…. the current ones are around 17% lighter than the Mark ones. The Mk 1 locos weigh 138 gram ( as confimed in Model Rails 'Britain's Model Trains' Annuals) whilst the latest versions weigh around 115 -116gms. This does not make much difference to adhesion though as even the lighter ones have adequate pulling power for most requirements! It maybe hard to answer but do you think the reduced weight would affect performance on a gradient of approximatly 1:60? I have a Mark 1 model still working and that worked on a test plank set at a gradient. I was rather keen on a plain black LYD and now slighly sceptical as my new layout I'm building will have a long section of gradient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Pre Grouping fan said: It maybe hard to answer but do you think the reduced weight would affect performance on a gradient of approximatly 1:60? I have a Mark 1 model still working and that worked on a test plank set at a gradient. I was rather keen on a plain black LYD and now slighly sceptical as my new layout I'm building will have a long section of gradient. I don't think it will make a lot of difference the 116grams is quite heavy for a small loco, ( The Bachmann Baldwin weighs just under 60 gms as a comparision), It also depends waht rolling stock will be in use, I certainly find that current Peco Plastic wheeled stock does inhibit haulage a bit, they are much improved with metal wheels as long as the metal wheelsets are adjusted to run freely, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevelewis said: I don't think it will make a lot of difference the 116grams is quite heavy for a small loco, ( The Bachmann Baldwin weighs just under 60 gms as a comparision), It also depends waht rolling stock will be in use, I certainly find that current Peco Plastic wheeled stock does inhibit haulage a bit, they are much improved with metal wheels as long as the metal wheelsets are adjusted to run freely, Thanks for the reply Steve. Ill be using Peco coaches along with other kitbuilt coaches on this layout Think i'll do some testing with other locos/stock to learn their limits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Pre Grouping fan said: Thanks for the reply Steve. Ill be using Peco coaches along with other kitbuilt coaches on this layout Think i'll do some testing with other locos/stock to learn their limits. As a matter of interest I recently tested a MW on a layout which had a 1 in 30 (approx.) Gradient 90% of which is on an approx. 12" radius curve It hauled 4 Peco coaches and 4 x 4 wheel wagons without any hesitation, so I think your planned 1 in 60 will present no problems. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted October 2, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2019 DCC Sound for L&B locos Not my area, but the latest newsletter from EDM Models in York says that he has teamed up with Paul Chetter to produce a sound project (which at £195 presumably includes the Zimo chip) specifically for the Heljan 009 models. Going off the email, it has been record, Paul has worked his magic, and the whole thing is ready to go, but it needs 20 orders for it to be viable. Full details are on the EDM website - Click here - for anyone interested and orders can be placed through his website too. There are install instructions on the website as well and it works with boththe Mk1 and Mk2 chassis, although the former requires a little more work apparently. No connection, just thought it may be of interest to people. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted October 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) I was just reading EDMs Facebook Post when it dissappeared which is a habit on the mobile version on FB. Edited October 3, 2019 by roundhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Had a couple of these in stock at the shop this week. Both ended up being returned due to poor running quality and running gear breaking. Have I just been unlucky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2019 The v2 ones are prone to it, the poor running is usually the pickups lifting it off, the flanges causing derailments or the valve gear catching before it destructs. Evidently batch 3 which is Lyd, with the flat backed cab, in black or the light green are ok. This is the fix list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 It is the flat backed version I have had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2019 Looks like the v2 issues still exist then! Roundhouse said his Lyd didn’t need any fettling so we wondered if they’d sorted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2019 Yes mine is fine, so far. Only time will tell once it in use on the proposed layout. Any news when 'Lew' is due? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2019 Only thing I’ve got is from my local who says it’s due Oct/Nov. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcampbell Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 06:44, PaulRhB said: Looks like the v2 issues still exist then! Roundhouse said his Lyd didn’t need any fettling so we wondered if they’d sorted it. The only V3 I've seen still fell off at points (18" radius), and had such limited vertical movement of the couplings/pony-trucks it couldn't cope with a change in gradient. Oh and the motion covers still fell off. So I don't think much has changed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 14/10/2019 at 13:20, mjcampbell said: The only V3 I've seen still fell off at points (18" radius), and had such limited vertical movement of the couplings/pony-trucks it couldn't cope with a change in gradient. Oh and the motion covers still fell off. So I don't think much has changed... The motion cover came off one of the two I had returned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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