RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 Hello Neal & Miss Prism I would place the Shunter's Truck as Departmental (ie not revenue earning). The Toad was brought in to the Hornby range in 1996 from the Airfix range (tooled by them in 1976). If we discount Pullmans and look at GWR per se (which is probably what Neal was hinting at) then the Collett was 1978. Brian 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, BMacdermott said: The Toad was brought in to the Hornby range in 1996 from the Airfix range (tooled by them in 1976). No longer available, thankfully. The newer (and excellent) AA15 appeared in 2017. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 9, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, BMacdermott said: I would place the Shunter's Truck as Departmental (ie not revenue earning). Yes, revenue earning is what I meant and wouldn't include the recent toad release. Edited January 9, 2023 by gwrrob detail, detail. detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: No longer available, thankfully. The newer (and excellent) AA15 appeared in 2017. Ah yes. The 9th Edition only goes up to 2015! Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 Hello again As far as I know, the 9th edition is last and final - which is a shame. Brian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TrevorP1 Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 At risk of derailing Rob's thread, I can't help thinking that the two big players in the market, particularly Hornby, are gradually moving towards the collector/Sunday supplement/'family' market. That's their prerogative, they have shareholders to please. The new smaller concerns plus Dapol - there are quite a few - will be left to supply the needs/wishes of the rest of us. Occasionally the big two might produce something 'useful', eg the Thompson Pacifics and the V2 for the LNER bods, but I think our Counties, Saints, Bulldogs and elderly panniers are going to come from Ireland or Canada, maybe even Wigan or Sheffield. Just my feelings, not wanting to start a war! :) 2 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Scroll back forty years and a very young wolf has pocket money to spend. The antiquated loco and coaches he already has are in Great Western livery, although he doesn't know they're purely generic, the old coaches have all that panelling moulded in and to a ten year old look quite convincing. Now he wants some freight wagons to go with them. The Hornby ones have shiny plastic underframes and the only GW wagon appears to be a Toad in a different shade of grey to what he's seen in the magazine's. But there on the shelf are some new models, a dark grey Toad without the huge moulded on rear lamp, an open wagon that looks quite real with very nice lettering, a flat and a well wagon with detailed loads that don't look gimmicks and as for the locos on a bit of track in the display case... So the only big UK manufacturers at the time lost a customer before he got his first paypacket. Much of my purchases have been kits since, but the locos came mostly from Bachmann and their predecessors. I'm not one of those who has an axe to grind with Hornby, life's too short, it's just that they've never really made anything that I want to go and buy brand new. 1 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 9, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 At least Mike @The Stationmaster didn’t miss anything by watching his quiz shows instead of The Hornby World program. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 hours ago, gwrrob said: Yes, revenue earning is what I meant and wouldn't include the recent toad release. My GWR shunters truck was revenue earning.... ... I sold it. 1 6 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said: My GWR shunters truck was revenue earning.... ... I sold it. I used the wheels and brake gear on a wagon and the toolbox has found its way onto a crane project. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 51 minutes ago, gwrrob said: At least Mike @The Stationmaster didn’t miss anything by watching his quiz shows instead of The Hornby World program. What a dreadful mess. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: What a dreadful mess. We don't really do much TV in this house. Did we miss a proper train wreck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, MrWolf said: We don't really do much TV in this house. Did we miss a proper train wreck? The programme was pulled and we saw U boats instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Ian Hargrave said: The programme was pulled and we saw U boats instead. such a pity that they didn’t run an hour’s video from Rapido instead! 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: The programme was pulled and we saw U boats instead. What, Hornby are producing a Maunsell U Class! 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Ian Hargrave said: The programme was pulled and we saw U boats instead. Was this a one off programme or the series that they were doing? Sorry, if I'm coming across as thick as an elephant pizza, but we really don't watch much TV bar movies! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 A question for the cognoscenti. Should 4074 have a fire iron tunnel in 1923 condition? I note the 4073 in shirt button doesn’t. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 14 hours ago, MrWolf said: I'm not one of those who has an axe to grind with Hornby, life's too short, it's just that they've never really made anything that I want to go and buy brand new. Although I also bear many similar scars and know where you're coming from, that's a tad harsh I reckon. Why only the other day I met with a respected loco kit builder who was proudly sporting 2 (or more) Pecketts in his display frame and I'll 'fess up to having 2 myself, 1 more than I can reasonably justify on any grounds, but they are just such fine little locos. The last releases of Terriers were pretty good as well, I've 2 of those with a shade more justification. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium M.I.B Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) While the wait for a new RTR Saint continues...........Hornby bring out.............Castles again........... I'm still a bit taken aback that after the completion of a new Saint at Didcot, nobody has released one in OO RTR. Edited January 10, 2023 by M.I.B 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Clearwater said: A question for the cognoscenti. Should 4074 have a fire iron tunnel in 1923 condition? I note the 4073 in shirt button doesn’t. Fire iron tunnels: I think 5013 onwards and then retro-fitted to older Castles during the 50's? Edited January 10, 2023 by Harlequin 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Clearwater said: Should 4074 have a fire iron tunnel in 1923 condition? No. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Miss Prism said: No. Answered my own question with two mins research… from p61 of David Maidment and Bob Meanley’s excellent new Castle book 1923-59. edit. Similar aspect of 4074 picture in OS Nock “Stars, Castles and Kings” (p95) with test hood on front at dynamometer car. Also very clear photo of 4079 on p108. Puzzling how Hornby’s researchers don’t find these pictures and not use the flexibility their tooling clearly can do. also don’t think it should have the superheater(?) on the smoke box in as built condition. Edited January 10, 2023 by Clearwater 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Pic also on Rail Online 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 Live in hope of some eventual discounting on 4073 as from memory it will finally get me the right frame detail to correct my model of Berkeley Castle. At 208£ I can live with the current model's error though! Will definitely be ordering one of the Macaw's though 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 And no Hawksworth County…thankfully.Yes that’s a backhanded observation I know. Given the current situation vis a vis Hornby and China with regard to delivery status etc. I think the 2023 programme looks about right ,all things considered. Maybe those nice Accurascale gentlemen will continue their good GW work with a Saint or one of the above. Or maybe Rapido,Rapido,let down your hair ? My protestations last evening re: the no show of Hornby The Movie 2 on the Yesterday Channel led the upstanding Mr. Parker to place me temporarily in the unique position of being possibly the oldest member of this forum removed to the naughty step.It appears that both Facebook and Twitter users knew all about it. And of course,like many of us,I am not one. Switched on my recorder to watch after supper only to view seascape instead of boys toys.No explanation given on screen & thought I’d reached the early shores of senility. But no….RMWEB gave the only information available. Hey Ho. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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