chev32 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Just thought i would post some shots of my SE Fincast W1 kit in progress .I was a somewhat disapointed with the boiler halves as one was longer than the other requiring a lot of fudging and still have misaligned boiler bands,gues it ok if you view it from one side only ! Also replace the front whitmetal chassis with a brass rails as this was also a mess. The loco is undercoat grey as per the photo on the box but having doubts as to wether this sould have been dark grey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 7, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2013 Hi Chev, Misaligned boiler or not, it's certainly an impressive beast! As for the colour, I always thought it would've darker shade, a bit like freight stock grey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Does this help? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Nice piece of work! There's a book available about the W1- "Hush Hush: the story of 10000" or something I think it is called- I forget who wrote it unfortunately but I do have a copy 'somewhere'. The basic gist of it seems to drive at that the loco would have been completely successful had not the steampipe driving the ancillaries (including the injectors) not been far too small in diameter. The cover of the book has an interesting painting of the loco leaving Kings Cross- the colour of the engine appears as more or less Battleship Grey- very dark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katier Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Nice model, personally I'd flatten off the bands as they look WAY over sized (more so than normal) and just line the model or replace with very thin tape or similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I would go for Battleship Grey http://www.loveless.co.uk/lner_w1_hush_hush.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbrown Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 heres a quick shot off my W1 built and painted by John Houlden (Gamston bank) Regards Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Just thought i would post some shots of my SE Fincast W1 kit in progress .I was a somewhat disapointed with the boiler halves as one was longer than the other requiring a lot of fudging .... I think that goes to show the degree of shrinkage that can happen during the casting of white metal - the potential for it increases with the size of the casting. Tim Shackleton built one for MRJ Compendium, but I think his body casting was not affected to the degree that you have suffered!! Even so, you've done a great job there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I don't mean to spoil you efforts but as you can see from the photo the sides of the cab are not vertical but flare out towards the bottom. It may be possible to spring out the castings slightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chev32 Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Hi all repainted the body in Battle ship grey ,must say it looks better lining done now runs really well (fitted a New zealand made gearbox and motor).Ive ordered specific transferes from FOX so just waiting on them and a coat of clear to finish .Next off the producion line SE fine cast GWR DEGLEN and langley SR Baltic tank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That's a pretty good job there. Going slightly OT, and just for a laugh, have you seen what some shyster's charging for a part-built W1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2013 That really is a 'beast'; would have liked to have seen that thundering (if it ever thundered?) through 36E . P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That's a pretty good job there. Going slightly OT, and just for a laugh, have you seen what some shyster's charging for a part-built W1? Yes, but it comes in a great box. That has to be worth something. As does the fun of completing the build without the aide of any instructions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2013 That really is a 'beast'; would have liked to have seen that thundering (if it ever thundered?) through 36E . P According to my dad - who cabbed it at some sort of LNER open day - it was a very impressive engine to look at although I'm not sure how well it went. It certainly seemed to go quite well as 60700 having had a trip behind it from Grantham to the Cross when returning from York on one occasion (and just to square the circle I cabbed it at KX). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlswood Nob Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 G'day all I like the W1 and must get round to building mine sometime (Chassis runs well), and I also have a Langley Remembrance Baltic Tank Half built (slight modification to valve gear to finish). As for the high auction price for a part-built W1, have you seen what he's charging for a SECR D class with five coaches and two vans...879 pounds. People can pay silly prices if they want something. A Golden Arrow Leader 0-6-6-0T fetched 696 pounds (including buyers premiun) at auction a few days ago, and you can buy them R-T-R from the maker for 295 pounds. I've been testing mine (playing) up and down the track and thinking of all the fivers that are moving along. Remember to show us the Baltic tank when you build it. Earlswood nob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Think I might have to keep my eyes open for the rebuilt 10000 in 'O'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Very nice effort, when I did 4mm modelling I had a RTR version from Golden Arrow I think which used a modified Hornby A3 and a plastic moulded body. This was around mid 80's and was OK for its time though probably quite dated by todays standards. While not wishing to knock your effort I was under the impression W1 was "battleship grey" and that included the buffer beams. The enclose image is of a oil painting a friend did for me. Its a straight copy of a commercially available image of W1 running the Flying Scotsman leaving Waverley. In this respect W1 is also unique as the only non Pacific to have worked the Flying Scotsman in its entirety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Nice model , is the smokebox area correct ? I cant find any photos which show a normal Smokebox door fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I think there may be a cover missing - compare to the painting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlswood Nob Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 G'day all All the pics I've seen after the fitting of a double chimney in 1935, show the smokebox door cover removed. Earlswood Nob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Further to my earlier post I enclose 3 lots of images from a book LNER Reflections ISBN 0-947971-03-3 It shows the shape of the cab sides and my sort of clarifies my thoughts on the colour The 4 th image is the commercial postcard that sparked it all but they specify no more than Waverley 1930's I also show a couple more images of my friends work, W1 is meant to be at Darlington and we have already touched on the colour issue. On the issue of the sloped cab sheets I vaguely remember that the same issue was problematic for a builder who was published on Gauge 0 Guild. Despite all that I still recon its a good build of a very interesting prototype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 You can see in the above excellent pictures that the bufferbeam is a different shade form the rest of the Loco. I would say Red, even then some consideration to safety was made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 23, 2013 Judging from various contemporaneous views of the loco I have seen over the years I have sometimes wondered if it was painted in two differing shades of grey with a much paler colour at one stage (no, not I think, 'photographic grey') which was subsequently replaced by a coat of (the dark shade of) battleship grey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 ... The basic gist of it seems to drive at that the loco would have been completely successful had not the steampipe driving the ancillaries (including the injectors) not been far too small in diameter... Whereas the usual concensus is that it was the inability to keep the water tube boiler casings airtight when flexed due to being mounted mounted on a locomotive chassis. This experience was repeated elsewhere in the world where the same experiment was made. It was a natural thing to try, as water tube boilers dominate large scale steam raising plant, and perform significantly better than firetube boilers: the watertube boiler off 10000 was installed to provide steam supply at one of the ex-NER works and outlived the loco in service. ... It certainly seemed to go quite well as 60700 having had a trip behind it from Grantham to the Cross when returning from York on one occasion ... It never saw any development, and could probably with advantage have had a smaller cylinder diameter in line with the Peppercorn A1, which in terms of power potential was essentially the same loco. The major difficulty crews had with it was that with a fully open regulator on easier stretches of the line it needed a shorter cut off for efficiency than Walschaerts gear can reliably supply. Run with a part open regulator to enable cut off to be set at the normal 15%, it burned rather more coal than the pacifics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I think there may be a cover missing - compare to the painting. I agree . Perhaps the bizarre smokebox handle is a support for the cover there are also what appear to be retaining shoulders as well on either side of the smokebox door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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