Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Bank Hall diesel, Liverpool UK by stephenwolstenholme.t21, on Flickr These are one of my favorite classes of loco, I have been playing with this over the last few days but for some reason one of my camera's memory cards doesnt want to download the shots I took while working on it, the shots below are from today. I like the big open cabs on these , problem is the whitemetal DJH kit built as it comes has chunky whitemetal windows and ive also recently noticed that the windows are far too small on it which doesnt give the impression of the large glazed cabs on the prototype. Ive had one that I built about 10 years ago which has a crap paint job and ive recently been given a damaged body by Bob Rowlands, Ive always fancied the Craftsman kit with its etched cab, but as Ive got 2 DJH ones now I thought id try and detail these, I also prefer the fact the DJH has a good weight being whitemetal and I prefer the shape of the front radiator area on the DJH one, ideally i would have liked to have made a mix of the 2 kits but costs as usual dont allow. I could always cast a copy of the DJH front should I ever get a Craftsman kit. Bob had made quite a nice job on his but it had suffered a fall off the layout at one time so it has been rattling away in a box for years and there was no complete chassis with it. the idea was to make one from the best of the 2 bits, using his body and my old chassis, I can still make 2 in the future, but for now ill use his body on my chassis, while my old body is soaking away in brake fluid. Bob's paintwork was quite good, but he had also modelled it as 02003, too late for my period so I have cleaned the paint off the cab and repainted the cab area and scratches using the same preision paint used originally and applied the crest and D numbers. Bob has signed the inside of the body with a date- 1989. his wasp stripes where pretty good for a handpainted effort, the front being better than the rear. I managed to open out the windows on the rear without damaging the wasp stripes as they are not the nicest thing to paint but in the end the slight wonkyness of the stripes made me decide to strip the paint off and have a go at painting them myself. here is a out of focus shot of the standard DJH cab on the left and with the windows opened out on the right, Ive also seen quite a few shots of them working around Liverpool with their cab door open and also cine footage of one passing Ormskirk in 1963 cab first with a brake van so for something different i cut the door out and chamfered the back of the door and window openings to thin them down. the door as moulded isnt high enough so cutting it out allows the correct height of it to be cut out, the 2 smaller windows at the front of the cab are also too small on the DJH model so I have widened them out too which enhances its appearance. there is glazing in the side window in the shot below. my chassis was built as DJH intends, however I may replace the wheels with new Markits as the flanges are deep with unique screw head crankpins and ive recently repaired a portescap I had been given for free that had seperated from its gearbox so I may give that a trial in this, trying to keep this one as a quick cheap project. couple of shots of one shunting with the door open.. 06 D2852 shunting at Brunswick by edgehillsignalman, on Flickr 07 D2852 at Brunswick by edgehillsignalman, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Is this 0 gauge? I have one of the Tower/DJH models built by Tower. It's very nice and runs very well, mostly due to the weight the cast body gives. I'll find a picture of it when I get home and post it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Hi, no its 4mm EM gauge. ive just made a start on the cab wasp stripes. after cleaning the whitemetal end I primered it with white primer. in the past I would have painted the yellow next and then masked it and sprayed the black. however it very rarely comes out neat with crisp masked edges and if it doesnt then its hard to touch up, so Ive looked at what Pete Johnson does which is white primer, mask it, spray the black, then hand paint the yellow last, the theory being its easier to paint the yellow when the black is down as you can clean up the black edges first with a scalpel and yellow wont cover black. that the theory, pics of my trial this afternoon, you only wait a couple of minutes to peel off the masking tape, but Ill leave it a good while now to harden and then tidy up any edges with the knife and then have a go at handpainting the yellow. all the strips where hand cut and just going by eye,so its not entirely perfect but better than it was, I noticed some bits again are slightly out of place to the prototype such as the rear light I think it is, but didnt notice until I was nearly through the masking so just cut it off and will stick it back on later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Would it not have been best to paint it yellow first and use low-tack tape to mask it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 no, as I said above, I reckon this way is better, Ive just painted the yellow by hand and it flows nicely on the white and stays in the ridge of the black, even if you do get it on the black, you dont see it. its harder do it the other way round if the edges dont peel off cleanly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I was just reading an article in BRM (Albion Metal scrapyard I think it was) They have one of these and I was wondering about getting one myself. I shall follow along with interest. Looking good so far. Regards Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 cheers, good practice for when I do the wasp stripes on my ex LMS jackshaft which has more awkward areas. quite happy with it, first time ive tried the technique, in the future ill make sure I cut the strips better but as a first proper go at them this way Im quite happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Looks good Michael, I like all the Yorkshire designs. An alternative approach for wasp striping is to spray the yellow and then use black decal sheet, cut into strips, and applied as necessary. Plenty of Solvaset settles the decal stripes down like paint. I've done a couple of industrials this way, including this Yorkshire DE2 for the BCB project. and weathered, Ian Rathbone mentions this method in one of his books. No better a method than the one you've used, just a different way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 it looks great and ive seen it in the flesh on Black country blues, the sort of thing that would have had me scared to attempt. I cant remember what make the wasp decals where on my other 02 that is soaking away in brake fluid at the moment but the ones on that always looked like decals, the film was a pain to disguise so ill try the solvaset on other decals. but I think from now on id prefer to paint these. can always weather over them but I wanted this one in a clean or at least the wasp areas clean. ive still got to make and paint the door. one passes through Ormskirk station in 1963. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted May 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2013 Hi Mike, Have you tried Fox transfer stripes? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Hi Mick yeah I have, yours looks great, when I tried them on my other 02 it was before I knew about any softening products, and getting them over any bumps and things on the end of a shunter I struggled with, there was also the fact the clear part had a sort of glistening look to it which I never liked. however I've made a door from plasticard and Im going to use fox transfers on this when it dries, I've painted the other side and inside of the cab a cream colour to save time, enamels take ages to dry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2013 D2853_02c.jpg Hello sir, lamp bracket police here, get it sorted . Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Hi Michael. Some good work going on here as usual. I have one of these myself and used fox transfers on it. I'll root out a picture if you'll allow me to indulge? Don't forget, my offer still stands for the jack shaft loco if you need it. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 yeah would like to see pics, I think im going to have a go of the jackshaft myself now. Ive done all the flush glazing of the cab and door, I put the transfers on the door, top bits are painted black then stuck it to the inside of the cab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 ive got the chassis running again, this time with a portescap that I had been given for free as it was damaged, the motor had been snapped from the gearbox, I have araldited it back together and it runs sweet and quiet. it may not stay in here forever, but ive got it and no other locos in the pipeline for it so it can stay in here. the chassis was cleaned up and repainted, the wheels have had their flanges reduced. it never had brakeshoes originally, for some reason I never bothered with them first time round so found some on a spare scrap etch, should be for a class 03 but Ive adjusted them to fit, I dont think the holes for the brakes in the kit are in the right place so redrilled those, I made my own balance weights. next few jobs are the bufferbeam area, handrails on the front steps aswel as touching up some of the little scratches here and there such as on the roof, although I dont want to weather this much, i want to try and keep it looking cleanish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 done a bit more, some touching up, refitting buffers, cab handrails, repainted cab roof and interior console, still a few little jobs to such as bufferbeam pipework but nearly there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 just realised I havent shown the other side so a shot of that, the close up shots crucify it and this camera is basic, I cant adjust light settings on it so the colour looks a bit dark in the shots, so ive took a further away shot, the green has been given a coat of Klear. the side window bar is made from masking tape painted green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 quick video to prove that it does run Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 nice prototype shot, useful for weathering. http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/p209887357/h2a14199a#h2a14199a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Hi Michael, (all). Just a couple of pictures of my attempt at the 02. It was my first, (and only so far), attempt at a metal kit and to say even this simple chassis was a partial success might be an overstatement.....! It works now though thanks to some expert help from the chaps at my local club..... Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 nice prototype shot, useful for weathering. ... I remember that engine! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 There is footage of D2858 at Newton Heath on this video http://www.brvideos.co.uk/volumes-090-100/volume-98-2/ about 28 minutes in to the film. The NRM has one too http://www.flickr.com/photos/45563292@N02/7932578118/ Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Sean thats really nice, David, Ive got quite a few b&r videos and enjoy them but havent got that one, will get it. ive got one of these painted black but fancy repainting it with the stripes, this will have to be fox transfers,but cant decide if its green or black and havent got a shot of a front of one with wasps yet. Birkenhead Mollington Street ? by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 ... David, Ive got quite a few b&r videos and enjoy them but havent got that one, will get it. ... There's only a few seconds of D2858 but most of the film is set in Manchester Exchange and Victoria, Newton Heath, Clifton Jc, and Bury. Well worth having! Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 There's only a few seconds of D2858 but most of the film is set in Manchester Exchange and Victoria, Newton Heath, Clifton Jc, and Bury. Well worth having! Regards ill get that one, a lot of the b&r videos ive got are the north west ones, most of the footage on them always seems to be of Manchester area, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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