Andy Reichert Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Another problem with street running is any stretch needs some kind of convincing lead in and out, you can't just model a stretch of it without something like a grade crossing at the end and there is little point in designing a Standard for how the road would cross the baseboard join onto someone else's module. You would also struggle to hide a code 83 switch in the street without resorting to a completely new track system, which breaks away from the spirit of new-build modules. However, I have a cunning plan... Me too! and a quick video clip As soon as I find a picture of the 2" long "linker rails that connect to regular model track, I'll put up a picture. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I think Mel's added his images to the Smugmug collection - group shot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I think Mel's added his images to the Smugmug collection - group shot! If the Devil were to cast his net! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelawareAndHudson Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Convincing street trackage? Norfolk Southern's Marion Branch through Warsaw, Indiana has two blocks of center of the street running on Hickory St. The link below should get you there. Zoom in tighter for a better view. You'll also notice that there is a junction where the Marion Branch crosses the Chicago, Fort Wayne & Eastern which is the former Pennsy mainline to Chicago. http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qw5rr77vc1wh&lvl=18&sty=o&q=123%20N%20Hickory%20St%2C%20Warsaw%2C%20IN%2046580&form=LMLTCC Here's some pictures: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=468675&nseq=2 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=447433&nseq=4 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=431979&nseq=5 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=430604&nseq=6 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=396644&nseq=11 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=358544&nseq=25 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=310129&nseq=40 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=205896&nseq=47 Videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShUNFer2wQQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCGhhGTVy4Q Jason Cook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2014 I think Mel's added his images to the Smugmug collection - group shot! Sorry but a few I don't know RMweb names for but,Left to right GloriousNSE, Roundhouse, Mike, Mrs Roundhouse, PaulRhB (well the top of my head), Geoff, WarbonnetUK, Peter, Mike Arnold, Frostyy, Mikes Cousin (lady in white), Harry, Tom, Mel (kneeling), Northpoint, ColinW62, Neil Rogers, Squeaky, 298, and Pete Pm me any errors and I'll change it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Do we have a link to the smugmug collection- perhaps I missed it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Jack - http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/ModelRailroading-1/2014-07-0506-Trent-Valley#!/ (The ones between the plan and the shot of the power station are video files BTW, click through to watch) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Many thanks, Martyn - Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'm still thinking of ways to get some gradients into modules. I have an idea, but I also have a queue of other modules to build first! One solution might be a "yump", where a street grade crossing has been replaced with an underpass and the railroad tracks raised slightly. You'd have to use quite a long module length to ease the vertical transitions, otherwise Kadees will be uncoupling on them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 One solution might be a "yump", where a street grade crossing has been replaced with an underpass and the railroad tracks raised slightly. You'd have to use quite a long module length to ease the vertical transitions, otherwise Kadees will be uncoupling on them... Or where a grade separation has replaced a diamond. This used to be a flat diamond, but the north-south line was raised to go over the CN main - the whole thing is about 400m long (which would make quite a long module - 5m?) https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=43.787524,-79.484668&spn=0.006258,0.009602&t=h&z=17 Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You could possibly raise one line and lower the other, this would cut the length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 One solution might be a "yump", where a street grade crossing has been replaced with an underpass and the railroad tracks raised slightly. You'd have to use quite a long module length to ease the vertical transitions, otherwise Kadees will be uncoupling on them... Something like: http://www.amce.com/KCSRailroadGradeSeparation.html ? Here's an interesting alternative (love the road guardrail apparently made of old rail!) http://goo.gl/maps/0yWZF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Something like: http://www.amce.com/KCSRailroadGradeSeparation.html ? That's the idea, haven't you done this on RS Tower...? There is one I know on Walnut St. in Yakima WA, head North past the Depot and the aerial photo on Google Maps shows another on Martin Luther King being constructed, complete with a Shoo-fly to the East. Photos/links to follow... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 That's the idea, haven't you done this on RS Tower...? I guess it's something similar, though it's more a lowered highway than a raised railroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This is how you lower a highway ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 the NP line through Yakima WA, showing underpasses from Google Earth, etc... I'll try to search for any photos I have later: Walnut Avenue: Looking South from the Yakima Ave crossing, you can't really see it on here but the view into the Yard is obscured by the hump over Walnut St. Lincoln Ave, this is purely a dive under by the highway, and shows additional bridges for access roads: And the Martin Luther King underpass under construction. The shoo-fly is approx 880 feet long with a maximum offset of 40 feet: For anyone thinking of building such a module, don't forget to check when such grade separations were built in your area, the ones here date from 2003 when BNSF increased the rail traffic on the Yakima Sub and road conjestion at crossings got worse... (locals obviously forgetting they used to have quite a bit of Street Running when the YVT was open...). As for my own grade crossing, see: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/57511-grunge-street-crossing/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Convincing street trackage? Norfolk Southern's Marion Branch through Warsaw, Indiana has two blocks of center of the street running on Hickory St. The link below should get you there. Zoom in tighter for a better view. You'll also notice that there is a junction where the Marion Branch crosses the Chicago, Fort Wayne & Eastern which is the former Pennsy mainline to Chicago. http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qw5rr77vc1wh&lvl=18&sty=o&q=123%20N%20Hickory%20St%2C%20Warsaw%2C%20IN%2046580&form=LMLTCC Here's some pictures: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=468675&nseq=2 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=447433&nseq=4 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=431979&nseq=5 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=430604&nseq=6 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=396644&nseq=11 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=358544&nseq=25 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=310129&nseq=40 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=205896&nseq=47 Videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShUNFer2wQQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCGhhGTVy4Q Jason Cook All great shots of RR spec. Girder Rail in the street. Didn't notice any twin T Rail Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Just discovered how to batch convert so that has saved a lot of faff. Battery was runnung very low, so most are quick 'grab' shots taken on the Saturday: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Batch 2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Williams Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Batch 6: That all folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northpoint Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Excellent photos, Steve - well done. I think you've covered every inch of the layout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Thanks Nick. I did try to. When you have finished looking at the photos you can always play 'Spot the Torso'! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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