RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 19, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2015 It would be interesting to know when the livery was changed and by who and why. The sample was correct and passed off so it really is amazing something like this could happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Lets be honest. You dont need an expert. Get a picture of both sides and ends, is the model the same? Yes. Job done. How hard can it be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 19, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2015 I wonder what the outcry would be if Hornby had c*cked up the livery on their Load Haul 60's. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class59arc Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I think they need to redo a batch of correct load haul shells and offer an exchange to everyone who bought them only slight problem is I've put my etched nameplates on now but it's a small price to pay Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Has no one got some black, orange paint & some masking tape, financially it's not worth Heljan doing any type of rerun or body exchange as what ever condition Heljan the painted bodies are in all of the models produced have all ready been sold, the damaged models from Trains for you will probably go to Howes (sold as damaged) and be exchanged for good ones but as with the 47's, 37's & 20's if they do produce another batch it may be if we are lucky be in say 5/6 years time but I would not hold my breath. Though stranger things have happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Hi, Is the damage to two thirds of the Trains models to the loco or just the box. I've got a customer more bothered about the box than the model. Regards Vin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 How many models of any particular type do Heljan produce? I thought it was only 400 - it seemed that way in the early models, but has this number gone up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It depends on how many shots you can get out of one mould, which also depends on the grade of metal and the tolerences required by the mould. In general 5000 shots is for a high grade metal with close tolerences. This decreases as the shot warps as the tolerence get higher. For example if you are making wheelie bins, you'll be able to get 10,000 plus, for a 5000 shot machine because the tolerences are so low. Heat and release on the moulds are the biggest problem. Apparently Heljan had problems on the final models of the class 47 in 7mm as the moulds had distorted so parts such as glazing wouldn't fit. Regards Vin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2015 Has no one got some black, orange paint & some masking tape, financially it's not worth Heljan doing any type of rerun or body exchange as what ever condition Heljan the painted bodies are in all of the models produced have all ready been sold, the damaged models from Trains for you will probably go to Howes (sold as damaged) and be exchanged for good ones but as with the 47's, 37's & 20's if they do produce another batch it may be if we are lucky be in say 5/6 years time but I would not hold my breath. Though stranger things have happened. Financially it is their own fault. Yes they admitted the mistake, but surely they should fix it. I recall Bachmann doing similar when the EPB was released, and that only had incorrect numbers on the coach. Heljan should really step up and fix a problem they created. Why should anyone have to correct the paint job on a £500 locomotive? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 No- one is forcing anyone to buy one. Humanity has (more or less) survived the last however many years without an accurately liveried 7mm/ft Loadhaul 60, and I'm sure it will continue to do so. Heljan have said they can be returned for a full refund, so no one but themselves will be out of pocket (assuming retailers can return them which I'm sure they can). Welcome to reality folks... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I,can never quite work out Heljan they spend what you would think plenty of time developing a model only to release it with issues, is. Class 55, 40, 52 now 60. Personally it doesn't really bother me but seems a wasted opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2015 I was planning on my first O Gauge loco being the Loadhaul 60 but I do not have the skill or expertise to even think about trying to repaint the loco correctly so for now I will be staying in OO Gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Lets be honest. You dont need an expert. Get a picture of both sides and ends, is the model the same? Yes. Job done. How hard can it be? That's what I find bizarre about so many of these livery errors from all of the manufacturers, because if they had given the model to a child and got them to play spot the difference with a photograph of the prototype, then most if not all of these errors would have been noticed. Yet it seems that professional model manufacturers still seem to struggle with this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Has Christmas come early? :-clap The big Heljan 60's have arrived. And superb they are too, bar the odd livery issue. 003 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 029 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 023 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 022 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 019 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 015 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 013 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 011 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 008 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 005 by rothburyuk, on Flickr I'm not too impressed with the revised packaging, quite a few people are reporting damage upon delivery. I have been lucky, other than the cabfront black marks. This is the reason...the black rubber pads are rubbing and leaving a sticky black residue. Thankfully easily removed with a little white spirit. Might be an idea to wrap the loco ends in tissue paper to prevent this Mr Heljan? 032 by rothburyuk, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class59arc Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I too had these black marks and have binned the packing end in favour of faom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2015 The internal wiring needs toning down a little................. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) The internal wiring needs toning down a Cheers, Mick LOL. ..I wondered who would be the 1st to comment on that! Edited November 21, 2015 by blueeighties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelman14 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 One Class 60 with `toned down`wiring.. Certainly an improvement!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Hi all, Later today I'll show some pictures of what you can do with a Loadhaul loco. PS. The EWS livery should have black grills and not excutive grey ones. Regards Vin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class59arc Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 That looks better modelman14 have u just painted the wire black? Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 One Class 60 with `toned down`wiring.. IMG_20151121_225743491.jpg Certainly an improvement!! Looks good. One comment though, the numbers look to be a little small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelman14 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Looks good. One comment though, the numbers look to be a little small. Hi... Yeah,I thought the numbers were a little small...they are the supplied ones,I think aftermarket is the way to go... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelman14 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 That looks better modelman14 have u just painted the wire black? Dave Yeah,just painted them,massive improvement. Still room for improvement around this area when you compare it to the real thing,highly detailed aftermarket kitme thinks?? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Yeah they messed up with those. The full number should be overall as long as the double arrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Yeah they messed up with those. The full number should be overall as long as the double arrow. 9356433343_d0e433a5b4.jpg For goodness sake, can they not get anything right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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