81A Oldoak Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Chris How long did you leave the precision paint to harden before spraying it with Testors? Precision paint is slow to harden and until it has the Testors solvents will attack it. I give it at least a couple of weeks in a dry warm dust free location. When you spray the Testors Varnish over the model don't point it at the model. Sort of waft it in the general direction so it rains on it in a sort of mist. Much of the solvent will evaporate before getting to your model. The other thing to do is waft on a very light coat. Give it a day to dry and then add another slightly heavier coat. The first light waft will have hardened and formed a barrier protecting the paint layer. The other thing is the Testor sprays need to be thoroughly warm at room temperature. if they aren't or aren't allowed to get evenly warm they can produce a white bloom in the finish That took longer to write than the spraying would Thanks for the advice Paul. From your diagnosis, I would guess that I am not allowing the coat of Precision sufficient time to harden. I shall repaint tomorrow and then leave the loco until I after I return on 20th January from a trip to the USA to visit my first grandchild who was born on 20th December. He has asked for a green Hudswell Clarke for a present and will obviously go far. Indeed having been born in the USA he could be a future POTUS. Regards, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted January 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2014 having been born in the USA he could be a future POTUS. Congratulations 'Grandad' - I must admit I had no idea what POTUS was until I asked Google . . . . . . . ! After the Hudwell Clarke, I wonder what loco he'll get for his first birthday as I guess that will be about the time that the next Ixion loco will be ready . . . . . something American perhaps ?? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Congratulations 'Grandad' - I must admit I had no idea what POTUS was until I asked Google . . . . . . . ! After the Hudwell Clarke, I wonder what loco he'll get for his first birthday as I guess that will be about the time that the next Ixion loco will be ready . . . . . something American perhaps ?? Mike Or a Fowler......? ;-) Cheers, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Hello Chris, I'm not a painter (if I'm going to muck up a loco this is where I'll do it), P/P takes a long time to dry, this is well known, to help it dry after it has stopped being sticky hang it on a radiator for a few days. For varnish try Ronseal, it's thin but will still need thinning for airbrush use, its good and it's cheap but make sure you get the one that thins with white spirit. It may also be a good idea to spray a test piece up at the same time as the tender (using all the same paints) so you can try on that, rather than the tender. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Hello Chris, I'm not a painter (if I'm going to muck up a loco this is where I'll do it), P/P takes a long time to dry, this is well known, to help it dry after it has stopped being sticky hang it on a radiator for a few days. For varnish try Ronseal, it's thin but will still need thinning for airbrush use, its good and it's cheap but make sure you get the one that thins with white spirit. It may also be a good idea to spray a test piece up at the same time as the tender (using all the same paints) so you can try on that, rather than the tender. OzzyO. Thanks OzzyO. Interestingly, I did test various types of varnish on a test patch without any visible ill effects. Anyway, tomorrow I shall spray a new coat of green on the tender and leave it until I return from a 10 day trip to the USA. By that time, my Severn Mill numberplates should also have arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 She is still alive, but in hiding waiting a month for the latest application of paint to harden before the next attempt at varnishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 My latest attempt to finish this loco has left me a long way short of feeling gruntled. I repainted the tender for the fourth time on 20th January and left the model to harden at room temperature until today. I did a successful test application of Humbrol acrylic varnish on a test patch that I had painted at the same time. I then moved onto the tender, wafting on the varnish as recommended by Paul Martin. Success on the first side, but disaster on the other side where there was some crazing. I am now so frustrated that I shall strip the tender again, only this time I shall spray the whole model in Halford's satin black and finish the loco in BR early-crest livery. At least it will look right pulling my Blood and Custard Collett coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Chris The like was for the BR black, but I do sympathise with your painting woes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Chris The like was for the BR black, but I do sympathise with your painting woes. Thanks Steve. One feels less than complimentary about Precision Paints, though it is odd that there was no crazing of the red buffer beams that were painted with Precision paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well at last I have managed to get the GWR livery completed as intended. I need to paint and fit the number plates and will then take some photos this weekend. The firebox back-head and spectacle glazing need to be completed. I shall then load it with coal, fire irons and crew and give the loco some very gentle weathering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 As promised last night, I got up early to fix the nameplates to 896 and take some photos of her in ex-works condition. The photos brutally expose all of the flaws and bodges that are an enduring characteristic of my model-making, but at last she is starting to look more like a swan than an ugly duckling. It is interesting to see how much lighter the GWR green appears under the bright lighting of the photofloods. It is a glorious morning and the weather forecast today is dry and sunny for our area. So as soon as I can rouse Lorna we are off to the Isle of Purbeck to ingest some sea air and sulphur on the Swanage Railway. Steam, sulphur and low winter sunshine - a true vision of heaven. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbuttler Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Hi Chris, she is looking superb! How I'd love to see one in 4mm... the 15 class one of my favourite locos. One point of note, I've seen the initials OSW on some photographs, just below the sandboxes on the footplate. Fantastic stuff All the best Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Hi Chris, she is looking superb! How I'd love to see one in 4mm... the 15 class one of my favourite locos. One point of note, I've seen the initials OSW on some photographs, just below the sandboxes on the footplate. Fantastic stuff All the best Alan Thanks Alan. I have also seen the OSW shed codes on the footplate valence. I will add them when I have either found suitable transfers or can do a decent freehand paint job. Regards, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Excellent. I have trouble here in Brazil with light and photography. It can make SR wagon brown look almost like faded pink. Enjoy Swanage it is a few years since I have been there although I live in a village there for 25 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Siddall Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 As promised last night, I got up early to fix the nameplates to 896 and take some photos of her in ex-works condition. The photos brutally expose all of the flaws and bodges that are an enduring characteristic of my model-making, but at last she is starting to look more like a swan than an ugly duckling. It is interesting to see how much lighter the GWR green appears under the bright lighting of the photofloods. It is a glorious morning and the weather forecast today is dry and sunny for our area. So as soon as I can rouse Lorna we are off to the Isle of Purbeck to ingest some sea air and sulphur on the Swanage Railway. Steam, sulphur and low winter sunshine - a true vision of heaven. Chris Sorry, what flaws would those be... I'm not seeing any :-) David PS: Love the whole Purbeck area, we visit at least once every year and every stay involves a trip to Swanage and back from Corfe :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daifly Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 OSW is on CPL Loco Transfer sheet 12L. Pat will be at Kettering next weekend. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Young Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 896 looks grand. Reckon you should get a medal for perseverance with the loco's painting! Is there any evidence of these locos straying to south Wales for your Cwm Bach layout, or will 'rule 1' apply? Cheers, Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 896 looks grand. Reckon you should get a medal for perseverance with the loco's painting! Is there any evidence of these locos straying to south Wales for your Cwm Bach layout, or will 'rule 1' apply? Cheers, Andrew Andrew, Thank you for the compliments. Chris Basten of Dragon Models is convinced they got to Newport via the Brecon & Merthyr and is sure he has seen a photo of one at Gaer Junction. So far we not have been able to find photographic evidence. Regards, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Yippee! At last I have found a photo of one these locos at Newport High Street proving that they did indeed penetrate the South Wales valleys. The photo was hosted on Facebook. Hopefully. this link works: https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10204159522651355&set=gm.535864973212602&type=1&theater Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I can't see it mate, temporarily unavailable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbuttler Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yippee! At last I have found a photo of one these locos at Newport High Street proving that they did indeed penetrate the South Wales valleys. The photo was hosted on Facebook. Hopefully. this link works: https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10204159522651355&set=gm.535864973212602&type=1&theater I knew they'd find one at some point Chris, great photo! - it's a closed group however so direct links won't work unless you are a member. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted August 19, 2014 Author Share Posted August 19, 2014 Attached is the photo of 895 at Newport High Street. My thanks to Mark Vrettos, who owns this photo taken by an unknown photographer, for permission to post the photo on this forum. The retaining wall even looks like Wills Coarse Stone. The Railways of the Cambrian is a closed Facebook site of which I am a member. Almost every day we are treated to brilliant and mostly unpublished photographs of Cambrian subjects. It is well worth joining if you are interested in the Cambrian Railways or Welsh railways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Something strange has happened to my Cambrian 0-6-0 goods loco. I decided to run it up an down Cwm Bach this evening and take a couple of photos. When I looked at the photos I noticed that the shade of grenn on the engine is noticeably different to the tender. I am perplexed as the tender and loco were painted and varnished at the same time, in the same place using the same paint and varnish. Any ideas anyone? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Chris The loco looks great, nice job. In the upper of the two most-recent photos, I think the loco looks like it has some kind of varnish bloom over the paint. This isn't evident in the second photo, but I do agree, there is a different hue between the two. Given you had awful issues with the tender paint, but not with the loco, did you by any chance use different primers? Can't imagine any other reason. As a potential solution, I bought a can of Land Rover Deep Bronze Green cellulose paint from a local garage years ago, it's great stuff but it is a pain to clean the airbrush, so being naturally indigent, I dropped into Halfords, who will, for £14 or thereabouts, make a rattle can of any automotive shade for you. This has also been perfectly satisfactory, but I don't tend to bother with varnish... HTH Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 It's all that sulfur in the Welsh air. I think I would have to agree with Simon it looks like blooming. But unusual for it to take so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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