icn Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 16 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: They assume adoption of the Digital Automatic Coupling which doesn't require a shunter to couple vehicles by going between and connecting drawhooks and hoses. I don't know to what extent this is an active project or whether it's just wishful thinking with little prospect of getting the necesary significant investment for phased rolling stock upgrades. Quite an active project on the continent, across multiple countries. Benefits: aside from the obvious reduction in risk to humans, they make it easy to add electronics to enable stuff like automatic brake tests (saves time=money), and in the longer term future likely to be vital for ETCS L3 (train integrity reporting necessary). There's no way wagonload traffic will survive without it (might not survive with it mind you). The beloved EU have a website on the current project (but bear in mind that non-EU countries are also involved): https://www.dac4.eu/en/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted August 29, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2023 Mid-train help works with passenger trains too: S&C Rescue At Foredale (Michael McNicholas) by Neil Harvey 156, on Flickr 47644 giving 34092 City Of Wells a push up towards Ribble Head. Steven B. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 @Steven B Cos the image is quite small I saw a large logo 50 first on that train before I read the description. I was thinking, why was a LL 50 on a local service over the S&C 🤣 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Back to the 'bus on a bridge' scenario with a mix of coaching stock thrown in for good measure - 50 049 fiance' heads west at Newton Abbot with a rail tour for Paignton in June 2007... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted August 29, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Rugd1022 said: 50 049 fiance' heads west at Newton Abbot with a rail tour for Paignton in June 2007... Was that when they ran out of warships to name them after, so they used relationships instead? 50 048 Boyfriend 50 049 Fiance 50 050 Bridegroom Perhaps it's just as well they stopped at 50. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted August 29, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jeremy Cumberland said: Was that when they ran out of warships to name them after, so they used relationships instead? 50 048 Boyfriend 50 049 Fiance 50 050 Bridegroom Perhaps it's just as well they stopped at 50. I dunno - could have morphed quite neatly into a theme of west country rivers? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) ... or re-branded social media companies ! Edited August 29, 2023 by Wickham Green too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 29, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 27/08/2023 at 13:52, Michael Hodgson said: I haven't checked earlier LMS books, I suspect the special 1-5-2 code was introduced as an expedient to cope with WW2 congestion. I assume it carried on where authorised on LMR lines after the 1960 book came in, but the details would have been transferred to the Appendices. That is certainly case for the special ILC codes used on the CLC and LNER for trains that were over specified lengths (and therefore meaning you had to plan where you could loop them and not leave it to signlamen to regulate), codes which lasted well into BR days. Definitely not in the 1934 LMS Regulations but definitely in the 1947 LMS Regulations. In the 'conversion notes' for holders of the LMS Signalling Regulations that were issued with the new 1960 Signalling Regulations it notes the 1-5-2 bell code as 'deleted'. If it was still used after 1960 at any LMR signal box(es) it would only have been shown in the 'box's Special Instructions and nowhere else. The Sectional Appendix reference is normally only to identify the sections of line where it was permissible for freight trains to be coupled. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 18 hours ago, Rugd1022 said: Back to the 'bus on a bridge' scenario with a mix of coaching stock thrown in for good measure - 50 049 fiance' heads west at Newton Abbot with a rail tour for Paignton in June 2007... Would have looked better, if the bus would have been a Devon General Sea Dog 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 "Typical... Think that because it's narrow gauge you can cram too much into too small a space! You'd never get such a narrow platform on a real station!" Mont Blanc Tramway, this is the station serving Saint Gervais Ville. Never seen an island platform in real life where passengers could reach out and touch both trains with outstretched hands before! 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 1, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 29/08/2023 at 16:25, Jeremy Cumberland said: 50 049 Fiance Should be "Finance" as they were leased when new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bittern Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 From when RTR carriages only came in a composite and a brake standard. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 14 hours ago, Bittern said: From when RTR carriages only came in a composite and a brake standard. ...... er .... when 'Brake Standards' were known a 'Brake Seconds' actually - and the brake standard was the thing the guard had to avoid doing himself an injury on. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Rich_F Posted September 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) Are we going to ignore this? Yes it is acceptable to run HST power cars with freight now! Edited September 4, 2023 by Weeny Works 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Weeny Works said: Are we going to ignore this? Yes it is acceptable to run HST power cars with freight now! It looks like new passenger stock with barrier wagons....... Edited September 4, 2023 by melmerby 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, melmerby said: It looks like new passenger stock with barrier wagons....... Correct. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 I read somewhere this morning that a couple of HST power cars + Mk3 coaches have been exported to Mexico - anyone know more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2E Sub Shed Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, stewartingram said: I read somewhere this morning that a couple of HST power cars + Mk3 coaches have been exported to Mexico - anyone know more? Rail Tech News Story 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 5, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, stewartingram said: I read somewhere this morning that a couple of HST power cars + Mk3 coaches have been exported to Mexico - anyone know more? The young ones predicted it 40 years ago! 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 5, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 03/09/2023 at 22:52, Wickham Green too said: ...... er .... when 'Brake Standards' were known a 'Brake Seconds' actually - and the brake standard was the thing the guard had to avoid doing himself an injury on. Which prompts the thought, if third class had not been rebranded second class in 1956, what would now be the class designation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Thtandard. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 With current standards of seating we'd have 'Hard Class' and 'Hard Class with a wee bit more legroom if yer lucky' ☹️ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted September 5, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: With current standards of seating we'd have 'Hard Class' and 'Hard Class with a wee bit more legroom if yer lucky' ☹️ H not T... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexEclectic Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 hours ago, 2E Sub Shed said: Rail Tech News Story Looks like they're bound for the Tren Maya project - which, in accordance with Alexi Sayle's predictions above, the Zapatistas have come out in opposition to. According to the WaPo, this also has lead to some archaeological surveys/digs before the construction teams commence make Time Team look positively lethargic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted September 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2023 On 05/09/2023 at 10:54, Compound2632 said: Which prompts the thought, if third class had not been rebranded second class in 1956, what would now be the class designation? Steerage? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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