Bon Accord Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 It would appear Scotrail/Network Rail have effectively thrown in the towel tomorrow over concerns around potential high winds: http://www.scotrail.co.uk/content/reduced-services-5-dec-due-network-rail-speed-restrictions You have to wonder if we can expect more of these reactions/excuses/liability dodging exercises in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Richard E Posted December 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2013 EC have imposed an emergency timetable due to expected disruption in the north and Scotland. As a result London to York is now 3 hours instead of 2. All the times are now inconvenient for regular commuters (it is impossible for me to get into work for 09:00 for example). Oddly most of the extra time in the timetable is SOUTH of Doncaster whilst Doncaster to York is pretty much unchanged. At least it avoids the inevitable delay repay and delay compensation arrangements kicking in - bully for them and blow the paying customer ... What are we coming to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 No services until at least 16:00 to Ayr/Gourock/Largs/Wemyss Bay/Balloch/Helensburgh??? The wonders of overhead electrification! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No services until at least 16:00 to Ayr/Gourock/Largs/Wemyss Bay/Balloch/Helensburgh??? The wonders of <done on the cheap> overhead electrification! Post edited for accuracy, I hope you dont mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Lots of trains currently stopped around Carstairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It may also be the fear of a train running into a fallen tree at speed. Safety is paramount. There is also a real danger of damage to the OLE. Nobody wants passengers stranded on a train in the middle of nowhere with no power, heat or light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Well, the way the wind is blowing in Tyneside at the moment, I can understand the restrictions. I'd be worried about driving, what with all the bins blowing around the streets, not to mention tents (who on earth throws out a small tent on day like this ...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff mcghie Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Rail network north of the border completely closed until winds subside and lines checked/cleared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted December 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2013 It may also be the fear of a train running into a fallen tree at speed. Safety is paramount. There is also a real danger of damage to the OLE. Nobody wants passengers stranded on a train in the middle of nowhere with no power, heat or light. Having experienced that in January 2005 I agree wholeheartedly. Two hours stranded in the wilds of nowhere between Darlington and Northallerton with wires down in front of and behind our train, whilst being buffeted by severe gale force sidewinds is not good for the nerves. An eventual Durham to London journey time of Ten hours is not something I'd wish to repeat either. Regards, John Edit to correct typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Well, it seems like at least "the authorities" can tell the difference between a newspaper making September predictions of a snowy winter, and a proper Met Office warning to batten down the hatches. It looks pretty bad from http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/travel-chaos-on-rail-roads-as-90mph-winds-batter-scotland.1386224200 and other sources Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Sooner be stuck on a train for 10 hours than in a car on a motorway. H & S gone mad. Run a basic service, run it slow and safe. Windy here in Wigan, trains are running, though late. Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted December 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2013 Sitting in my conservatory by WCML near Carnforth. Weather dreadful, howling gale and driving rain. Overhead wires swinging about. I was driving a bus early this morning, one tree down and lots of branches on road. I can well understand why trees cancelled. Just got my head wet, wind has just damaged conservatory roof while I'm typing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigd Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Vigin Twitter feed: How did a class 66 blow onto the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I can well understand why trees cancelled. If only we could cancel the trees rather than the trains! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Is it safer to cancel trains and make it more likely for people to drive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 As David H said in post #8 about Tyneside, if its as windy most places as it is here I really wouldnt want to be on a train swerving around fallen branches etc That's a common misconception Mickey - that big round thing in the cab is the handbrake, not the steering wheel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Here in the Northern Highlands - much big wind, and Skye, Kessock and Dornoch bridges all closed to high sided vehicles - wind has now abated - a brief snowstorm, but scheduled to be more this afternoon, currently blue sky and 4 oktas white clouds at about 2000' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 In sunny south Manchester I have just driven thro a leafstorm, never mind a snowstorm. Trams and trains still running.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Having experienced that in January 2005 I agree wholeheartedly. Two hours stranded in the wilds of nowhere between Darlington and Northallerton with wires down in front of and behind our train, whilst being buffeted by severe gale force sidewinds is not good or the nerves. An eventual Durham to London journey time of Ten hours is not something I'd wish to repeat either. Regards, John In the good old days with heavyweight coaching stock and heavyweight steam locos the wind would have been the loser. And 'wires down' wouldn't have been a problem either. I don't know, young people these days. Puff of wind and it's the acropolips (or something like that?). I can remember crawling to school in Force 10 hurricanes wearing the family shoe and blanket etc. etc. etc. Seriously though - I'm glad I'm nice and warm indoors! There are occasionally good points about retirement. ie - not having to go to w**k (4 letter word) in this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 That's a common misconception Mickey - that big round thing in the cab is the handbrake, not the steering wheel...Not on Richard Branson's Pendolinos it isn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted December 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2013 In sunny south Manchester.. Now that really must be extreme weather. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Looks like there's problems on the wcml nice black bag or garden membrane wrapped round the live line on the down slow phoned the local box which I think is rugley causing a few delays by the sounds of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Also looks like there's a problem on the up fast between atherstone and Nuneaton all trains going slow on the up slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted December 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2013 I;v e just had a look on flight radar 24 http://www.flightradar24.com/BEE729 This flight attempted to land at Leeds/Bradford at least 3 times and now appear to be heading back for Belfast. I suspect that the sick bags are in use. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Everything stopped on the wcml at atherstone can see a pendo and a desiro stopped between signals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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