RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 9, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2018 Q-decoder? Or would that be too complicated?If I knew what a Q decoder was Do you have a link to what it is and what it can do? I've just about figured out their basic signalling, I think. I'll dig out my basic guide later and post it here in case someone can improve on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 9, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2018 Give ’im a chance, Ivan! Paul has built this into an impressively long and decently scenicked layout in no time at all. The fact that signals and lineside signs are in place at all puts him ahead of many of us who take years over such details, if ever..Ta Ian And Paul does know a bit about signals.......Shhhh! Don't tell 'em that they might actually believe my waffle Which reminds me I need to go and do some of that button pushing later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 If I knew what a Q decoder was Do you have a link to what it is and what it can do? I've just about figured out their basic signalling, I think. I'll dig out my basic guide later and post it here in case someone can improve on it. Website here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 9, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2018 Doesn't appear to do a timed switch still. As my operators only get to practice at shows I need it to be really simple. I want it to be switched to green by either tapping the screen icon or a push button then revert to danger ten seconds later. The only other way is that any conflicting route switches it back to red but it will still often leave a green departure signal with a train heading back into the station if the route hasn't changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted April 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2018 There is an educational ready mono flop board using a 555 available from rapid electronics - I have 2 at home and will see if I can find a link for that. Advantage is you get all parts, a nice PCB board and you have fun in soldering all together - for as little as 3£ per board... Will come back to that later - now I have another 7 minutes to work :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Will come back to that later - now I have another 7 minutes to work :-) Right, you've had 13 minutes now....... Edited April 9, 2018 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted April 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2018 Well even if my car would be the only one in MK I wouldn't make it.... :-) Here we go https://www.rapidonline.com/rk-education-555-monostable-project-economy-70-6012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 9, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Well some nice pics surprisingly fast from Andrew Loco diagrams fettled after testing to destruction by my select crew I know you're lurking a Iain!Ok so here are my notes so far on Harz signalling, be gentle Updated to include revision to L crossing board. Edited April 10, 2018 by PaulRhB 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted April 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2018 Many thanks for the signalling info Paul. I’ll soon need to signal my LGB layout and that is just the info I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 10, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2018 A small edit as the L board is for the bell not light traffic, thanks to another Paul on NGRM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) I found this page helpful for such things. http://www.dampfromantik-harz.de/technik/technik.html Click on "Signale an der Strecke" The Gleispläne page ain't bad, either.... Edited April 11, 2018 by Oldddudders 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted April 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11, 2018 I found this page helpful for such things. http://www.dampfromantik-harz.de/technik/technik.html Click on "Signale an der Strecke" The Gleispläne page ain't bad, either.... Good stuff. This could entertain me through the whole lunch break... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 12, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) Well even if my car would be the only one in MK I wouldn't make it.... :-) Here we go https://www.rapidonline.com/rk-education-555-monostable-project-economy-70-6012 A bag of these turned up today so I'm going to try and get at least one up and running for Globalrail as an experiment. Additionally 7238 is currently on the third hour of running in circles, in different directions and turned each way, to try and get rid of the jerkiness. It's improved but still a bit lumpy at low speed so on it goes . . . On a positive note I shared some pics from NGSouth with Tillig as they'd been helpful with several things despite 7238 and they asked for more so they might use some in future Edited April 12, 2018 by PaulRhB 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 12, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2018 Got fed up and went back inside and found a tight spot Then I went further! Everything rotates fine individually Took everything out and cleaned it. Put it back together and there is a very slight tight spot but a fraction of what it was and now I'd accept the slow running. So running in again to see if that helps further. The valve gear is extremely delicate so take a lot of care if you do this. Anyhoo I will count that as a success, let's hope it lasts 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 Oh brave man! So glad you improved it after that courageous step. 7238 is still available on one or two websites, but I'm trying to be good. After all, it needs to say DR not HSB on the side! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 After all, it needs to say DR not HSB on the side! Well three options here . . . 02925, 02928 & 02929 https://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Tillig/4-11-003001-237189-0-0-0-2-3-2-0-gatt-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 Well three options here . . . 02925, 02928 & 02929 https://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Tillig/4-11-003001-237189-0-0-0-2-3-2-0-gatt-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html Yes, that's the reason I'm trying to resist 7238 - I've got all those! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 Don't you feel sorry for me as I can have DR for photo charters alongside HSB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 Cleaned out the background 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2018 So a mini review of the weekend. 1. It worked! It all went up easily and fits within the planned footprint. Splitting the points off onto a separate bus meant we didn't push the limits of the Z21. No major failures apart from shorts occasionally. 2. The loco diagrams worked quite well with action balancing fairly well so trains were moving at various places most of the time within view. I have clarified the diagrams so the unused passenger train isn't left in the station but shunted to the yard and the loco picks up the alternative train. I guess it's really the operators too used to picking up another train from a fiddleyard rather than working a diagram with a loco. 3. The Token sections seemed to work very well in preventing single line issues and everyone used them all day. 4. Two of the 2-10-2's, the 0-6-0's and Kamel ran well all day. A couple of coaches got coupling droop but I have enough to swap them out and sort later. 5. The operators seemed to find the pace more relaxed and four of us just about coped ok with minimal breaks for one day. It definitely needs 6-8 for a long two day show though as we were just a bit knackered by the end. 6. It all fitted back in the car and small van. 7. It all got home in one piece So stock needs weathering, Signals need powering up, Brunnenbachsmühle needs a bit more weathering too and the light rig needs to stretch another 24ft as it covers just under half the layout at present. On the operational side I want to introduce the wagon cards for the goods stock so they move between specific locations, I thought it would slow things down too much with the skeleton crew last weekend. It has done what I intended and nice surprises were that it generated three way meets at Brunnenbachsmühle without actually trying to set them up. Onwards Süd Harz HOm NGSouth 2018 by -salisburyASC- 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2018 Tank locos running bunker-first. The Harz does a lot of that, but model railways rather less so. Authenticity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 There is certainly a turntable at Wernigerode shed and track plans I have (dated 1946) also show them at Nordhausen shed and Westerntor works. Although I've been round the works several times I don't recollect seeing one so maybe it's no longer there. The Nordhausen based loco works chimney first uphill to DAH where it swaps trains with a Wernigerode based loco so it doesn't have to go up the Brocken bunker first. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Looked like a turntable to me! And of course any loco going round the balloon loop at Stiege will be turned. Edited April 14, 2018 by Oldddudders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Yes there's the turntable to turn locos back from overhaul or that have gone up the Selketal via the loop but haven't returned via the loop at Stiege The main thing is they have to face uphill for the Brocken so that dictates the 2-10-2's way round on the Süd Harz due to the junction at Sorge. It's a trailing junction at Sorge so the HSB train reverses and arrives at Brunnenbachsmühle bunker first 99 222 is allocated on a rolling diagram so remains the normal way round for the Brockenloks. The 0-6-0's, in my world, are allocated to the SHE so they turned them for variety Edited April 14, 2018 by PaulRhB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted April 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2018 Picked up a couple of these A3 poster display stands to replace my sheets of mdf. £17 each off eBay I can use these with any layout and they are a lot better than pinning laminated sheets to the legs Süd Harz HOm by -salisburyASC- 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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