mark axlecounter Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Hi everyone I am trying to get some info ( if possible ) dose anyone do the stephsons motion for 4mm scale I have tried loads of places with no avail any help pleaseMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CloggyDog Posted December 23, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2013 You might want a look at this archived topic: http://rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18522&sid=308736c43a11ba51deffa1ea08470662 I (very) vaguely recall a conversion kit done by someone (Crownline??) at least 20 or 30 years back?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Hee hee beat me to it! Refers to Bill Bedford etch - following that trail leads to http://www.mousa.biz/ Cheers Phil Edited December 23, 2013 by Phil Bullock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks to both links I have sourced the kit and I will be having a go at it in the new year thanks to both of you I will put pics up when I get the guts to do it lol Many thanks Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 23, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2013 Welcome Mark Look forwards to seeing the end result - has always been a loco I liked! Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 You might want a look at this archived topic: http://rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18522&sid=308736c43a11ba51deffa1ea08470662 I (very) vaguely recall a conversion kit done by someone (Crownline??) at least 20 or 30 years back?? That was me. It's still a work in progress, but put back due to other distractions. Phil Baxendale finished his version of 4767, also using Bill Bedford valve gear, which is now sold by Eileen's Emporium. I've seen it perform. It works perfectly. Crownline never produced a Stephenson conversion kit, but they did kits for the Caprotti engines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 I will keep you all informed on this project when I start it in the new year I admit Phil I like the black 5s I have quite a few in my stock just built another comet coprotti black 5 But as I say I will put pics when I start it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 I have seen yours horsetan I must say it looks good really impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 I have seen yours horsetan I must say it looks good really impressed Unfinished, though. If you do a search for "Philbax", you'll find he built his 4767 using most of a Brassmasters "LFB Black 5" plus the Bedford valve gear etch. Highly expensive way to do it, but very seductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courageous45711 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Looking forward to seeing this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Happy new year it's been a while. My lush lady has got me the motion for this conversion now where is that black 5 so I can start on this project Pics will come when I start it Edited January 11, 2014 by axelcounter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Happy new year it's been a while. My lush lady has got me the motion for this conversion now where is that black 5 so I can start on this project Pics will come when I start it What kit or RTR will you be using as a basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I will be using a Hornby black 5 what has Gibbson wheels on I was thinking of using the comet fame kit but funds are a bit tight at present so one of my Hornby ones will do I will wait until the motion kit comes to start my little project then the fun will begin Pics will be on when I start it so apologies for the wait Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Don't forget that you want the long wheelbase Black 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Well I have got the motion today thanks to my good lady (she's a gem ) I am going to use the front top feed black 5 a rtr one with Gibson wheels I got years ago Looking at the kit I have found no instructions for how to assemble it dose anyone out there have the instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Mark If this is Bill's kit you're referring to then it will not have instructions. You need a photo of the prototype and off you go using the etch you bought. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Mark If this is Bill's kit you're referring to then it will not have instructions. You need a photo of the prototype and off you go using the etch you bought..... Mike: it can only be Bill's etch. He was the only one who actually got as far as putting it into production. There are no instructions because Bill works on the IOI Principle.* Strictly speaking, you should buy two, just in case you make a mistake. *IOI = It's Obvious Innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Thanks both of you I have got a few picks of the motion I will be starting it on wed night when I am at work ( the joys of a signaller ) lol. I Will have to be taking my time with this build I don't fancy getting another kit but I will try and get it right The kit is bills he is the only one to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbax Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 HI best of luck I used two sets of bills valve gear because I wanted forked joints.If you have a selection of spares for valve gear then this may not be reguired. The biggest issue I found was trying to keep the valve gear within gauge, it turns out rather wide but then I was workin in P4. As for the Long wheelbase option, i beleive that Comet? do a long wheelbase version of the CL 5 chassis but as the extra length of 4 inches equates to 1mm in 4mm sscale I chose to ignore it. There my cover is blown!!!!!! With the bits left over (Brassnmasters valve gear) I am now looking at another CL 5 based on a perserference chassis and an old Hornby body. So far removed the cab completely intending to use a comet cab, ready for plastc filling and detailed bits, this will have a self weighing tender. First build so far based on a Comet tender (note has the rivits in the wrong place but I can live with that) based on information on the rmweb. Unfortunately I now see after more research that I have the bunker too long as there needs to be the weighting mechanism behind it. Will post pictures soon when I get back in the Uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 ... Comet? do a long wheelbase version of the CL 5 chassis but as the extra length of 4 inches equates to 1mm in 4mm scale I chose to ignore it. There my cover is blown!!!!!! Yes, I thought it looked a bit short behind. I went for the Comet LWB 5 chassis as soon as it came out. The smokebox should really be stretched by a scale 4" to correspond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbax Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hi Horstan Have you got it running yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hi Horstan Have you got it running yet? The chassis freewheels, but I'm having trouble with the front footplate / valence drop on the body, which looks lopsided no matter what I do to try to correct it (ex-Alan Gibson body) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Well here are the pics before I do anything the kit and the loco it's going to go on I have decided to use a standard black 5. the one with Gibbson wheels i am not using this one has the Hornby wheels more pics will follow soon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 First stage done and to prove it moves I have taken two shots in different positions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Good Luck. This may help you? http://www.steamlocomotive.com/appliances/valvegear.php Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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