RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) That looks VERY much like the one I built for Gavvy2 of this parish about a year ago ..... spec is right, number is right, Roomey's weathering is right too Having had a closer look at the Hatton's pics, I'm 100% certain it's my work, hope Gavvy2 is ok Edited January 25, 2014 by RedgateModels 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2014 So who's going to be the first to figure out how to put a smoke generator in these? When I built the last pair the subject of smoke did arise and I discussed various options, but the consensus was that you'd need to have the smoke generator in the firebox or maybe the preheater area and route the smoke via a tube to the side chimney. The likely cost of this and the difficulty in filling the generator killed off the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Can someone remind me of the forecast date for the Crosti please, or are we not even at a date setting stage yet.? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The Crosti 9F was given a date of release of Nov/Dec by Hattons on my last visit, they didn't however confirm which year, lol !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuarttrains Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here's the other side of the 9f that was asked for the other day Regards Stuart (locomotionmodels.com) 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted July 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2014 Try as I might I can't fault it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 It surprised me the other day to see this Railroad branded model will be only about 20 quick cheaper than the top class Bachmann 9F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted July 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2014 No!!!! Look at the size of that coupling........ Let's hope something more appropriate will appear on the loco when released.... Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted July 11, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2014 No!!!! Look at the size of that coupling........ Let's hope something more appropriate will appear on the loco when released.... Keith Indeed, the rest of the model looks remarkably good for a Railroad model and how many ever thought to see a RTR Crosti 9F, it'd be terribly sad if they ruin it with a 1960's style Triang coupling. Hopefully it'll have an NEM type coupling box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 It's sharing many parts from the previous railroad model it looks like though I understand from its original announcement the bodyshell is all new as is the chassis block. Everything else looks all new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 No!!!! Look at the size of that coupling........ Let's hope something more appropriate will appear on the loco when released.... Keith It was mentioned very clearly during the 2014 Announcements that the model is being made from scratch. The image shown on Hornby's facebook page (i.e. the CAD) image shows that the model has a fully retooled chassis and has narrow NEM couplings. It was very clearly said that this model is being retooled fully and will not share anything from the 9F. Indeed, the rest of the model looks remarkably good for a Railroad model and how many ever thought to see a RTR Crosti 9F, it'd be terribly sad if they ruin it with a 1960's style Triang coupling. Hopefully it'll have an NEM type coupling box. There is no need to hope. Go have a look at the main announcement and you will see that it is a complete retool. I think it is fairly easy to deduce. The shell is a 3D printed sample, the chassis is from an old 9F, the tender chassis is 3D printed and the tender is from an old chassis. Fairly easy to understand it is an early pre-production sample to test etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Interesting if you take a peek in the 2014 catalouge that evening star is listed as new this year. Maybe the whole 9F range, Crosti and original are being retooled as they did the railroad flying scotsman last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Interesting if you take a peek in the 2014 catalouge that evening star is listed as new this year. Maybe the whole 9F range, Crosti and original are being retooled as they did the railroad flying scotsman last year. Are you referring to the R3288 Evening Star? http://www.Hornby.com/catalog/product/view/id/4331/category/302/ There was no such mention of a re-tool or upgrade to the chassis so I doubt it. Almost everything is termed as NEW each year and other theings are termed as NEW TOOLING etc. Just asking: What retool did the "Flying Scotsman" get last year? Edited July 12, 2014 by Jeffery B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I'm sure I read in a mag that the railroad scotsman had a re-tool/makeover. As I remember I bought an original railroad one for my son then the said they'd re do it. Typical! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I'm sure I read in a mag that the railroad scotsman had a re-tool/makeover. As I remember I bought an original railroad one for my son then the said they'd re do it. Typical! Apart from changing the motor i.e. tender drive to loco drive, adding NEM couplings, adding an 8-pin DCC socket and wire handrails along the boiler I doubt any changes were made. And I think these changes were made a couple of years or more ago. I have a 2012 Hornby catalogue which had these features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_man Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Apart from changing the motor i.e. tender drive to loco drive, adding NEM couplings, adding an 8-pin DCC socket and wire handrails along the boiler I doubt any changes were made. And I think these changes were made a couple of years or more ago. I have a 2012 Hornby catalogue which had these features. The first Railroad Flying Scotsman R2675 was basically the older tender drive version with a new loco drive chassis and the guts removed from the tender drive. The latest Railroad version R3086 is a completely retooled model. http://www.mremag.com/news/article/Hornby-railroad-a1-4-6-2-r3086/12344 Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The first Railroad Flying Scotsman R2675 was basically the older tender drive version with a new loco drive chassis and the guts removed from the tender drive. The latest Railroad version R3086 is a completely retooled model. http://www.mremag.com/news/article/Hornby-railroad-a1-4-6-2-r3086/12344 Steve Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The first Railroad Flying Scotsman R2675 was basically the older tender drive version with a new loco drive chassis and the guts removed from the tender drive. The latest Railroad version R3086 is a completely retooled model. http://www.mremag.com/news/article/Hornby-railroad-a1-4-6-2-r3086/12344 Steve Yet thats what I was thinking. Maybe the 9f is getting its upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Given there was a picture of the EP in the announcement thread, you can pretty much judge most of this apart from the finish. The only Railroad feature of that is the Railroad loco chassis to my eyes (no more former ringfield tender ) Sure looks like an EP to me... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_12_2013/post-1-0-98317600-1387185748.jpg Certainly that's not a CAD image or a CG rendering. Until we have real evidence to the contrary, I disagree. Disagreed to your posts because you claimed you were professional at 3D CAD stuff. I think Hornby_FAN was correct. Here is your proof. PS: Apologies for replying to a really old post, frobisher wanted proof and seemed adamant when it was being pointed out that it was a CAD image not EP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Any idea when the Crosti 9F is due to release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 No!!!! Look at the size of that coupling........ Let's hope something more appropriate will appear on the loco when released.... Keith What you're looking at here is an early body - probably what Hornby calls a stereo - popped onto whatever chassis was available. Showing these advance 'proofings' on forums is all very well but unless the viewers understand what they are looking at, all it does is prompt a load of pointless comment. In addition to posting the images, manufacturers really need to post a one or two line explanation of what they are showing, what's been altered and what can be ignored as not being relevant to the finished model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 What you're looking at here is an early body - probably what Hornby calls a stereo - popped onto whatever chassis was available. Showing these advance 'proofings' on forums is all very well but unless the viewers understand what they are looking at, all it does is prompt a load of pointless comment. In addition to posting the images, manufacturers really need to post a one or two line explanation of what they are showing, what's been altered and what can be ignored as not being relevant to the finished model. Thanks for the clarification Chris - previously I stated that it looked like it was using previous underpinnings (the front coupling and rods/cylinders suggested that to me). My apologies for the misinformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Disagreed to your posts because you claimed you were professional at 3D CAD stuff. With respect, try reading what I wrote in those (and other) posts... Perhaps what you meant to say is that you disagreed with those post because you didn't share my opinion with the hindsight of more current information. I think Hornby_FAN was correct. Here is your proof. PS: Apologies for replying to a really old post, frobisher wanted proof and seemed adamant when it was being pointed out that it was a CAD image not EP If Hornby (I presume) have said it was a CAD render, then fair enough. That's actual provenance. I'll not rake over the coals of this any further, but I stick by what I said at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Images of the Hornby Railroad "Franco-Crosti 9F" have appeared in this months copy of the Hornby magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 15, 2014 They're looking good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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