RMweb Premium 31A Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Now then, special equipment alert. https://d28lcup14p4e72.cloudfront.net/228673/4076215/ROD%20release%202.pdf this looks seriously good . P Let us know how you get on with it .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 Now then, special equipment alert. https://d28lcup14p4e72.cloudfront.net/228673/4076215/ROD%20release%202.pdf this looks seriously good . P Really? Really? That's all well and good and good luck to them and all who sail in them, but, really? And for that price? I mean, it's not as if my own hair shirt isn't hairy enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Now then, special equipment alert. https://d28lcup14p4e72.cloudfront.net/228673/4076215/ROD%20release%202.pdf this looks seriously good . P So when do your gang of helpers come and get it working for you. I have my tool kit ready......hammer big, check, hammer, small, check..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Let us know how you get on with it .... Not yet by a long way. I shall have seen all the blood letting on here before I get anywhere near it (say, 2020?) What is good is that it comes as parts not just as a kit so I could use parts if they were suitable. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Really? Really? That's all well and good and good luck to them and all who sail in them, but, really? And for that price? I mean, it's not as if my own hair shirt isn't hairy enough. Ah but, yes but, look here, it is nice to dream. A. Rod. (who is also a Crank ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) So when do your gang of helpers come and get it working for you. I have my tool kit ready......hammer big, check, hammer, small, check..... See post 15830, however thank you for your enthusiasm. I have to get the paper-mash stuff down the Station middle bits done first and I'm having problems with me teeth from all the chewing of the old paper. P Edited September 20, 2018 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 This is where the parts will be most useful as they are prominent, especially from the Box. The long rod runs can easily be brass wire. I might not be fussed about stuff like Dingham Couplings, but I do want a good rodding session. Pecoboo have also just brought out a product that will help with the Running in Board(s) as seen in the first pic. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) There were indeed Ian and some of them used to take their "Travelling Secretaries" as well. No names, no pack drill. In the role you are alluding to, many meetings took place either at Essex House or Southern House of course. A former ASM at BTON always had a cheese and tomato toastie and a gin-and-tonic on his way back to the Coast afterwards. Midland Hotel, Derby and Crewe Arms Hotel, Crewe - 'the Officers' Mess' - favourite venues for us more northern chaps. And an honourable mention for the Brunswick in Derby, albeit not so much for meetings as after work 'relaxation'. Still going strong, with its micro-brewery. Edited September 20, 2018 by LNER4479 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 This is where the parts will be most useful as they are prominent, especially from the Box. The long rod runs can easily be brass wire. Exactly, brass wire is your friend in this regard. Model Signal Engineering (aka Wizard) do a nice whitemetal rodding stool, which can be adjusted in length, which is a very good compromise in terms of appearance and ease of installation as compared with very scratchy hair shirt alternatives to make the stuff actually work. It's all very nice and those who can make it are very, very clever, but I class working point rodding in 4mm scale in the same category as working inside motion on a steam loco. I think I'd rather have a cream tea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 It's all very nice and those who can make it are very, very clever, but I class working point rodding in 4mm scale in the same category as working inside motion on a steam loco. I think I'd rather have a cream tea. But won't the jam make a mess of the layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Exactly, brass wire is your friend in this regard. Model Signal Engineering (aka Wizard) do a nice whitemetal rodding stool, which can be adjusted in length, which is a very good compromise in terms of appearance and ease of installation as compared with very scratchy hair shirt alternatives to make the stuff actually work. It's all very nice and those who can make it are very, very clever, but I class working point rodding in 4mm scale in the same category as working inside motion on a steam loco. I think I'd rather have a cream tea. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/137687-dcc-concepts-working-point-rodding/ ..........and so the polite discussion begins................................... Adjustable stools eh? At my convenience no doubt? Thanks for the Wizard tip by the way....hadn't seen that. P Edited September 20, 2018 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 Working point rodding is a clever idea, but if you invest in it, you'll want to show it off. Sticking it on your own home layout is not really getting the best from it (unless you go for the modratec option and make the levers really work the points). But putting it on an exhibition (portable) layout is just inviting disaster (if it's the only point operating system in use) - being shaken around on the journey to the show, crossing baseboard joints - not a clever idea (IMHO). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/137687-dcc-concepts-working-point-rodding/ ..........and so the polite discussion begins................................... I have made an initial, polite contribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 Thanks for the Wizard tip by the way....hadn't seen that. Happy to tell you more about how 4mm point rodding is done in Kernow Towers, old bean. One further tip, though, try to install it before you do the scenery and certainly before you ballast the layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 Working point rodding is a clever idea, but if you invest in it, you'll want to show it off. Sticking it on your own home layout is not really getting the best from it (unless you go for the modratec option and make the levers really work the points). But putting it on an exhibition (portable) layout is just inviting disaster (if it's the only point operating system in use) - being shaken around on the journey to the show, crossing baseboard joints - not a clever idea (IMHO). I completely agree with this, Stu. It's simply 'more to go wrong' on any layout, but especially any exhibition layout, no matter how careful you are, even if it's not the main method of operating the points. It seems a little 'gimmicky' if I'm honest. Working, walking 4mm figures would, however, be something to write home about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Happy to tell you more about how 4mm point rodding is done in Kernow Towers, old bean. One further tip, though, try to install it before you do the scenery and certainly before you ballast the layout. Ah, there be a tip and I knew I hadn't done any ballasting for a good reason. Couple of pics re the Towers system would be very much appreciated and not just by me I am sure. Thanks a bundle dear heart. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 Couple of pics re the Towers system would be very much appreciated and not just by me I am sure. To be honest, I've only ever installed point rodding on two layouts - 'Bleakhouse Road' and 'Callow Lane' and I didn't document the former. However, I installed it once the scenery and ballasting had been completed and realised that next time, I should do it before the ballasting was started, certainly when it came to planting the rodding stools. So the best thing is probably refer the Honourable Gentleman to my blog entries of a few years ago - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/21/entry-1204-callow-lane-point-rodding/ http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/21/entry-4578-callow-lane-point-rodding-almost-completed/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I agree with Stu and Tim, whilst working point rodding seems a great idea it becomes harder to use with a portable layout, it adds to the things that can go wrong. having correctly laid out non working point rodding is visually better than nothing. I was using the Wills stuff on Sheffield Exchange Mk1, all runs checked by Mike Stationmaster before I started to lay them. Even in its very raw state it gave a better railway like impression than you see on many well known and supposedly good layouts without rodding. For Exchange Mk 2 I have a pile of these to make. Edited September 20, 2018 by Clive Mortimore 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 035.JPG 044.JPG I agree with Stu and Tim, whilst working point rodding seems a great idea it becomes harder to use with a portable layout, it adds to the things that can go wrong. having correctly laid out non working point rodding is visually better than nothing. I was using the Wills stuff on Sheffield Exchange Mk1, all runs checked by Mike Stationmaster before I started to lay them. Even in its very raw state it gave a better railway like impression than you see on many well known and supposedly good layouts without rodding. For Exchange Mk 2 I have a pile of these to make. pm6.jpg For Exchange Mk2, look at what Simon Paley (of this parish) is doing with 3D stuff from Shapeways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Oooooooh. Both brillo. many thanks. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted September 20, 2018 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Oooooooh. Both brillo. many thanks. I will have to construct a couple of these at some time. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 Oooooooh. Both brillo. many thanks. I will have to construct a couple of these at some time. post-18971-0-93455700-1453414097.jpg P That's at Midsomer Norton on the Somerset and Dorset, that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 For Exchange Mk2, look at what Simon Paley (of this parish) is doing with 3D stuff from Shapeways. That's very nice stuff and seems to be of very high quality and he's a very clever lad, is Simon, but it's a bit modern for a steam-driven or horse-drawn railway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2018 Midland Hotel, Derby and Crewe Arms Hotel, Crewe - 'the Officers' Mess' - favourite venues for us more northern chaps. And an honourable mention for the Brunswick in Derby, albeit not so much for meetings as after work 'relaxation'. Still going strong, with its micro-brewery. Well, I don't want to turn Phil's thread into a version of Tripadvisor (other hotel review sites are available) but I have to agree with you regarding the Midland. Funnily enough I never stayed at the Crewe Arms. The Royal Station at York was consistently good as were the Caledonian and North British in Edinburgh, no doubt partly because of the enduring West/East Coast rivalry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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