RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 26 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26 Putting a bit of purple spectrum colours in brings rust out. Mike. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 I've put away the Dogfish for a bit and started work on the Limpets. I believe the prototype was converted from POA wagons so I thought I would do the same. I have a RTR Bachmann Limpet and a couple of Bachmann POA's, that were not really doing much. I'm not sure about the prototype but the Bachmann Limpet has wider support bars in the middle than the POA's but I'll overlook that! I started by removing the ladders on the ends and putting plastic strip in between the middle bars, next up file them down so they are level then cut out the openings. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 After a bit of drilling, cutting and filing this is the result. A bit of filling, cleaning up and finishing off using fine grade files and I'll have to decide how to paint them! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 (edited) The Limpets are ready to be painted so I plan on doing the interiors first then, as I've a photo of a wagon that's still in original livery but heavily weathered and just had a yellow stripe over painted at the top I plan on doing that with one, the other will be painted Yellow and Grey as the RTR version in the back. I also have this Bachmann BDA that I plan of turning into a BRILL by weathering and fading the Railfreight Red and applying appropriate markings. I'll start by weathering the bed of that first. I have a question though, am I right in thinking the bed of the wagon is wooden along with the tops of the bolsters? I haven't been able to find any good photo's of the bed of those wagons. Edited March 5 by sb67 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 Started work on the wagons. I gave the interiors of the Limpets a coat of Lifecolor Rust Dark Shadow and, after removing the bolsters and distressing the bed of the Brill with a scalpel and wire brush, painted it in Lifecolor Warm Dark Shade then dry brushed Warm Base color over the top. The Bolsters were given a wash of Rust then a Cold Base Color over the wooden part. I've noticed in the few photo's I've seen that the bed weathers to a dark brown and grey shade compared to the tops of the bolsters, which weather to a silver grey, I guess that's down to usage. The bolsters always seemed to keep the body colour, albeit weathered. The uprights have also been given a coat of rust. Still a lot of work to do. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 6 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6 You can’t beat the use of Lifecolor paints for doing some weathering. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 11 hours ago, gwrrob said: You can’t beat the use of Lifecolor paints for doing some weathering. I like them, weathering planks, the way they dry brush on has given a textured look. I think Vallejo are pretty good too. I still prefer enamels for washes though. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted March 7 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7 On 05/03/2024 at 06:29, sb67 said: I have a question though, am I right in thinking the bed of the wagon is wooden along with the tops of the bolsters? I haven't been able to find any good photo's of the bed of those wagons. Spot on. Profile here with links to various photo albums at the bottom of the page: https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_025.php As long as I've known these wagons, since 2003, the deck has been covered in a fine mesh, but I'm not sure when that practice started. Scalelink Fretcetera do suitable mesh if you fancy doing a posh job, but you're adding about £15 per wagon to the cost; one sheet does one wagon. If you like, I can check which mesh size I bought, as it took me a couple of attempts to get the right size. https://www.scalelinkfretcetera.co.uk/product-category/frets/meshes-various-shapes-and-sizes-any-scale/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 Thanks for the link @Daddyman there's some good info on there. I believe the mesh appeared after my modelling era but not sure when exactly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 Did a bit more weathering, drybrush some planks with Vallejo colours this time and a dark grey wash to bring out the planks, the photo I have showed some rust staining on some planks, so I copied that. 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 I'm enjoying working on the BDA/BRILL, I've decide to keep one side as a BDA and the other side I will add BRILL transfers, the photo I have shows Railfreight Red livery, re numbered and with a yellow patch with BRILL in black on it. I've faded the red by applying a filter of Citadel Paints, Squigg Orange and gave the bed a coat of matt varnish. I'll work remove the paint over the numbers using a cocktail stick. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 I've completed the BRILL up to the stage of waiting for transfers, the LIMPETS have had a start made on weathering the insides and the outside of one. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sweet pea Posted March 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13 Steve nice weathering to the planks on the Brill. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 8 hours ago, Kevin Johnson said: Steve nice weathering to the planks on the Brill. Thanks Kevin 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 A bit more work done on my wagons. The Limpet on the right has been painted with Citadel Dawnstone and needs one more coat. The other one has had a couple of brown washes, I'm looking to put a filthy patina that nearly obliterates the original livery but using washes alone will take ages! Might have to try something else. The Brill has had transfers applied, the original yellow box was repainted as I only had white BRILL transfers, coat of Matt varnish next. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 Gave the wagon another coat of a brown wash, it's getting there but gonna take a while. I'm aiming for this sort of discolouration. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Another couple of washes over the sides of the Limpet, one or two more coats and I'll put the yellow stripe on, and the Yellow stripe painted on another Limpet, I'm getting there! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, sb67 said: Another couple of washes over the sides of the Limpet, one or two more coats and I'll put the yellow stripe on, and the Yellow stripe painted on another Limpet, I'm getting there! Bear in mind the real thing didn't weather itself in 20 minutes, it took years! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Didn't these tend to bulge at the base? Looks good so far. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, AlfaZagato said: Didn't these tend to bulge at the base? Looks good so far. I think they did but I've not seen too many photo's of it. Not sure I could replicate it easily though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 There's a method from the car modelers. You replace the to-be damaged panels with double layers of foil. Nothing crumples like metal. Have to use foil, though. Photoetch tends to be too rigid and thick at this scale. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted March 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 21 I remember stinking out DEMU Showcase at Burton in 2006 doing a Limpet plastic bulging demo with a soldering iron, those were the days 😂 I’ve got a Dremel gas powered soldering iron these days and you can get effective results gently applying some heat and teasing out the bottom with various implements, but at the same time there’s a risk if you go too much it’s game over..! Limpets looking lovely so far Steve, great weathering. The leaf suspension can be gently chiselled off and replaced with the Bruninghaus spring mouldings or bodged with a scalpel if you’re feeling adventurous! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 6 hours ago, James Makin said: I remember stinking out DEMU Showcase at Burton in 2006 doing a Limpet plastic bulging demo with a soldering iron, those were the days 😂 I’ve got a Dremel gas powered soldering iron these days and you can get effective results gently applying some heat and teasing out the bottom with various implements, but at the same time there’s a risk if you go too much it’s game over..! Limpets looking lovely so far Steve, great weathering. The leaf suspension can be gently chiselled off and replaced with the Bruninghaus spring mouldings or bodged with a scalpel if you’re feeling adventurous! Thank you James, I remember that showcase and demo, it sowed the seeds for my future wagon weathering! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 Finished one Limpet and started the yellow stripe on the other one. I'll have to carefully try and smooth the line between the colours, I didn't realise it would turn out so pronounced, I'll have to be try and be more careful with the next one! 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sweet pea Posted March 22 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22 Nice work on the Limpet Steve.👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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