woodenhead Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, iands said: RETB I think. RETB was not introduced until 1984 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, woodenhead said: RETB was not introduced until 1984 Yes, thinking about it, 1973 was a bit early for RETB. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, iands said: Yes, thinking about it, 1973 was a bit early for RETB. Just a theory but was the box abolished and replaced by ground frames? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, russ p said: Just a theory but was the box abolished and replaced by ground frames? Could have been, and the line operated by 'token'. I've had a quick look on the SRS website to see if anything is mentioned there, but not found anything yet. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, iands said: Could have been, and the line operated by 'token'. I've had a quick look on the SRS website to see if anything is mentioned there, but not found anything yet. The answer will be in the relevant ScR Sectional Appendix but my copy is dated 1969 and shows a signal box at Thurso with Electric Token working to Georgemas Junction. Someone must have an edition covering 1973 - @5BarVT perhaps? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 3, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: The answer will be in the relevant ScR Sectional Appendix but my copy is dated 1969 and shows a signal box at Thurso with Electric Token working to Georgemas Junction. Someone must have an edition covering 1973 - @5BarVT perhaps? Mine is the same year as yours! David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 3, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2023 Some photos around Middlesbrough now. Middlesbrough 37420 freight to docks 14th April 93 C18456 Middlesbrough Castle cement diesel shunter 14th April 93 C18447 Middlesbrough Class 101 51218 Middlesborough to Newcastle 21st Feb 85 C6706 Middlesbrough Class 101 ecs 12th Feb 85 C6711 Middlesbrough 143008 up pass 2nd Aug 86 C7816 Middlesbrough 37029 up freight 2nd Aug 86 C7822 David 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tankerman Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, DaveF said: Some photos around Middlesbrough now. Middlesbrough 37420 freight to docks 14th April 93 C18456 Middlesbrough Castle cement diesel shunter 14th April 93 C18447 Middlesbrough Class 101 51218 Middlesborough to Newcastle 21st Feb 85 C6706 Middlesbrough Class 101 ecs 12th Feb 85 C6711 Middlesbrough 143008 up pass 2nd Aug 86 C7816 Middlesbrough 37029 up freight 2nd Aug 86 C7822 David Am I the first the only one who thinks the first two look almost model like? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, St Enodoc said: The answer will be in the relevant ScR Sectional Appendix but my copy is dated 1969 and shows a signal box at Thurso with Electric Token working to Georgemas Junction. Someone must have an edition covering 1973 - @5BarVT perhaps? The 1977 Sec. App. has Georgemas Jcn.-Thurso as OT (One train working) with Train Staff kept in Georgemas Jcn. token station. In the 'Location' column there is now an entry for 'Thurso GF' at 6m35ch with Thurso station at 6m50ch (from Georgemas). Edited June 3, 2023 by keefer 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 3, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2023 Back now to the High Dyke branch at Skillington Junction where the lines to Sproxton and Stainby/Sewstern diverged. Skillington Junction Class 47 1534 down empty iron ore April 71 J2552 Skillington junction Class 31 5858 up iron ore Aug 71 J2730 Dad's car in foreground. Skillington junction 5673 up iron ore. Colsterworth North extension pit behind, Marion shovel behind being dismantled for transfer July 73 J2996 Skillington junction Class 47 1566 down empty iron ore Aug 72 J2999 Skillington junction Class 31 down empty iron ore April 73 J3241 David 49 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 3, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2023 Long Buckby, Weedon and Clifton Mill to end today's photos. Long Buckby 310056 Euston to Birmingham Aug 69 J1815 Weedon Class 86 E3124 Euston to Holyhead Aug 69 J1807 Weedon Class 86 E3145 Euston to Manchester Aug 69 J1811 Weedon Class 86 E3179 Euston to Manchester Aug 69 J1812 Clifton Mill LNWR Rugby to Peterborough branch of LNWR April 71 J2647 David 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 3, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a splendid set of photo’s of Thurso, Scotland, on the 21st June, 1969, and August, 1973. In C005, which is a delightful shot, you can see not only the goods shed, but the crane too. This photo’ along with the others will be of use for modellers. The photo’s of Middlesbrough are excellent, with the last photo’ being a superb shot of 37029, on an up freight, on the 2nd August, 1986. The 37 is nicely weathered and will be of much use for all who have models of class 37’s. In the photo’s of the High Dyke branch at Skillington Junction, where the lines to Sproxton and Stainby/Sewstern diverged, you have posted a most interesting set. In the first photo’ of Class 47, 1534, on a down empty iron ore train, in April, 1971, your Dad has taken a very well composed photo’ of the train. Finally, the photo’s of the WCML, at Long Buckby, Weedon and Clifton Mill, are a splendid selection, with the last photo of Weedon, with Class 86, E3179, on a London Euston to Manchester express train, in August, 1969, being a superb photo’ and it can be seen that the 86 is quite grimy. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 C18447. Shunter looks like a Ruston. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2023 14 hours ago, keefer said: The 1977 Sec. App. has Georgemas Jcn.-Thurso as OT (One train working) with Train Staff kept in Georgemas Jcn. token station. In the 'Location' column there is now an entry for 'Thurso GF' at 6m35ch with Thurso station at 6m50ch (from Georgemas). That's what I suspected - thanks for confirming! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 4, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) Photos taken at Aycliffe on the ECML north of Darlington to start today. They wree taken on 5th August 1976. Aycliffe Class 101 down 5th Aug 76 C2946 Aycliffe Class 47 up 5th Aug 76 C2947 15.48 Newcastle to Kings X? Aycliffe 47460 Newcastle to Liverpool 5th Aug 76 C2949 10.30 Aberdeen to Kings X ? Aycliffe Class 46 down ex pass 5th Aug 76 C2950 Bristol to Newcastle? AycliffeClass 47 up ex pass 5th Aug 76 C2951 Newcastle to Bristol? David Edited June 4, 2023 by DaveF 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Great to see some 70’s pics of Aycliffe and to see how it’s changed over the years! Ps- it looks like you took them at Charters Bridge (Aycliffe). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) Are you sure C2949 was a Newcastle - Liverpool? Late mark 2s were a rarity on these trains , even after the timetable recast in the later 1970s. The following picture looks more like the normal consist of that period Edited June 4, 2023 by 62613 altered date 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nigb55009 Posted June 4, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2023 In C2949, there appear to be two catering vehicles. That would suggest an ECML express, possibly a class 47 covering a Deltic diagram. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 4, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 43110andyb said: Great to see some 70’s pics of Aycliffe and to see how it’s changed over the years! Ps- it looks like you took them at Charters Bridge (Aycliffe). Thanks, I had forgotten the exact location. 34 minutes ago, 62613 said: Are you sure C2949 was a Newcastle - Liverpool? Late mark 2s were a rarity on these trains , even after the timetable recast in the later 1980s. The following picture looks more like the normal consist of that period 20 minutes ago, nigb55009 said: In C2949, there appear to be two catering vehicles. That would suggest an ECML express, possibly a class 47 covering a Deltic diagram. I'm not really sure what the train was. Back in the 70s the only source of information I had was the public timetables and that meant trying to work out the passing times from the station times, so it could well be an ECML express and not what I thought at the time. Funnily though even though it is nearly 47 years ago I can remember the day quite well, I was on the way to a holiday in the north of Scotland. I've just looked at my catalogue (I should have done before but these are a replacement set from my files for photos lost in the outage) and I appear to have added notes at some time about the trains. I have amended the captions. C2949 may be the 10.30 Aberdeen to Kings X. Edit I've just gone back to my the original post of these photos (2nd Feb 2016) and have found the following post about the photos, from mark54: C2947 from the formation, is the summer dated 15:48 Newcastle-KX C2949 should be the 10:30 Aberdeen-KX C2950 should be the 09:24 Bristol-Newcastle C2952 is probably the 16:15 Newcastle-Liverpool LSt Edited February 2, 2016 by mark54 David Edited June 4, 2023 by DaveF 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 4, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2023 The next set are photos taken at Skipton and Settle Junction. Once again they are Dad's photos, all from 1967. Skipton BR Class 4 75015 shunting Grassington goods Jan 67 J748 Settle Junction Class 110, leading a mixed set, Leeds to Morecambe July 67 J956 Settle Junction signal box July 67 J958 Settle Junction LNER A4 60019 and part of old station building July 67 J962 I'm on the right. Settle Junction Class 47 D1847 Euston to Glasgow diverted from WCML Oct 67 J1156 David 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 4, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2023 Now a trip to Germany to look at Nordhausen, in the former East Germany which is the southern terminus of the Harzquerbahn and also has standard gauge services. The photos are all from 7th August 1992. Nordhausen 202 245 7th Aug 92 C17500 Nordhausen 199 011 7th Aug 92 C17516 On the Harzquerbahn, the wagons are standard gauge on transporter wagons. Nordhausen 7th Aug 92 C17522 Harzquerbahn 99 6001 carrying the number 21 as in the photos earlier in the thread. Class 199 metre gauge Bo-Bo behind it. Nordhausen 7th Aug 92 C17523 DB Class 218 in station, Köf shunter at bottom right corner. Nordhausen 142 007 7th Aug 92 C17526 David 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2023 5 hours ago, DaveF said: Settle Junction Class 110, leading a mixed set, Leeds to Morecambe July 67 J956 At least one green vehicle in the train, a couple of Met-Camms and the cl.110 in early BFYE with small numbers/arrow and the yellow wrapped round to include the cab door. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 4, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) Lastly today a trip to Ardwick station situated in a delightful area of Manchester. Those who know Manchester will know that is not to be taken seriously though I never encountered any problems there. Once again they were taken while I was revising for my finals. Ardwick Class 104 to Sheffield 8th May 71 C590 Ardwick Class 100 from Sheffield 8th May 71 C591 Ardwick Class 40 D244 pw train 8th May 71 C593 Ardwick Class 37 6964 Manchester Piccadilly to Harwich 8th May 71 C597 Ardwick Class 104 on LNWR lines to Buxton 8th May 71 C598 David Edited June 5, 2023 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 4, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2023 C597 - the 5th coach looks like a Gresley buffet. IIRC this service (later The European) used such a coach well into the '70s. C598 - looks like early BSYP but with a full yellow end, which looks a bit strange to me for some reason. Mind you it looks like the livery some units got in the '80s! (White roof domes) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 4, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 4, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a great set of photo’s of Aycliffe, on the ECML, north of Darlington, on the 5th August, 1976. In C2947, with a class 47 on the up 15.48 Newcastle to Kings Cross service, you have captured a superb shot of the train, and the 47 is quite clean. The photo’s of Skipton and Settle Junction, in 1967, are a superb selection, and I recall them from the original posting. Indeed, thats a great shot of Settle Junction, in J956, with a Class 110 DMBC, leading a mixed set, on a Leeds to Morecambe service, in July, 1967. That class 110/2 DMBC has been given a fairly early repaint into blue, with the yellow cab end wrapped rounnd onto the cabside doors. No first class yellow stripe, small car numbers, and both vacuum pipes finished in white. A class 111 TSL, follows, with the rest of the formation being: class 104/1 DMCL, class 101/1 DMCL, class 101,TSL or TCL, and bringing up the rear a class 104/2 DMBS. It’s great to see you in J962, of Settle Junction, with LNER A4, 60019, Bittern, and part of the old station building, in July, 1967. In the photo’s of Germany, at Nordhausen, on the 7th August, 1992, which are a splendid selection, C17516, of 199 011, with the standard gauge wagons on transporter wagons, you have a delightful scene of the little locomotive hauling a most interesting selection of wagons. Finally, the photo’s of Ardwick, on the 8th May, 1971, are an excellent set, and in the first one of a two car class 104, on a service to Sheffield, which is a well composed shot, the driver seems somewhat distracted by something which maybe the engine or air/axle lights, on the panel to his left. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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