bigbadbadge Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Hi Folks As the title says I am new at this so please be kind to me, although constructive criticism is welcomed. I bought this at the Folkestone show a few years ago as a complete kit at a very reasonable price and thought I would practice on it before building a proper loco kit. Chassis kit looks very impressive and goes together well and very easy to assemble square. Gearbox went together well too, ran motor and gearbox for 10 mins either way and then built up and tested as an 0-4-0. Well chuffed when it ran straight from the off. I have reamed out each bearing and it runs freely. Not sure if I have the front bogie bracket nut/bolt the right way up so when I get upstairs in the loft again I will re check. Wheel spokes have now been cleaned up and the chassis stripped for painting. I hand paint my models and use Humbrol enamels mainly. I am afraid I do not get modelling time usually Friday and Saturday evenings only. I have since added the rods to hang the brakes on but, I am not sure whether to add the brake hangers/shoes prior to painting or paint and assemble chassis then add, will see how it pans out. Thanks for looking All the best Chris 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Looks good, Chris! Regards, Stefan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 Cheers Fella, I have finally plucked up the courage to do a loco. I am really a Southern Fan although I must confess to some GWR Stock . I have a LBSC D3 to build and wanted to practice on something before I touched that. Thanks All the bestChris 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobhead Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Considering how nice your chassis look, I dare to say that the rest of CoT will pose no problem for you. Regards, Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Hi all some further work Brake hanger rods added to main chassis Bogie constructed Tender chassis also started I have soldered the front brackets on the brake rods, the carpet monster ate the bracket for the water scoop though so will have to make a plastic one up. I have filed flush the centre wheel bearing tube with the tender chassis and mounted it ever so slightly higher to allow for the tighter radius curves. I placed the main driving wheels on the chassis in the top holes as per the additional slip states in the instructions and I have had to this out the splashers to get the wheels to turn with the running plate sitting on top of the chassis, I will add a sliver of plasticard also to ensure smooth running. Thanks for looking All the bestChris 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Hi Folks Bit more progress today bent the bogie arm and finished tender chassis off a bit more I have got to do a final clean up and fill the letters on the brake hangers and then will be painting it all and starting on the body. I am not sure which engine to do yet as I have a tender top to use instead of the Airfix one which will allow a later version so may do another City loco instead of Truro as I wanted to do the plain unlined green. I must admit I am well chuffed with this so far, I know I have probably done some bits incorrectly, but it is my first attempt. I am also very pleased with the fit of the Branchlines chassis kit and I am surprised at how quick it all went together, I am used to model aircraft and they take an age to build u (well for me anyway). Thanks for looking All the bestChris Edited May 29, 2014 by bigbadbadge 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted May 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2014 I placed the main driving wheels on the chassis in the top holes as per the additional slip states in the instructions and I have had to this out the splashers to get the wheels to turn with the running plate sitting on top of the chassis, I will add a sliver of plasticard also to ensure smooth running. Very nice work. When I built one of these about 8 years ago I convinced myself that there was something confusing in the instructions with regard to which hole to use for which type of wheel, so I take it from the above there is now a correction slip added with the kit? Like you I was surprised at how well and quickly it all fitted together, compared to my first few loco chassis which had been a bit of a struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted May 29, 2014 Author Share Posted May 29, 2014 Cheers Barry, yes there is a correction slip in with the kit. I am impressed with the Branchlines kit and I feel a lot more confident to go on with the next one now. I wish I did this years ago ! All the bestChris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted May 29, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2014 I am tempted to do one of these, does it work out much cheaper than the Bachmann one. And will it shift a long rake of Mark 1s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted May 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 29, 2014 I am tempted to do one of these, does it work out much cheaper than the Bachmann one. And will it shift a long rake of Mark 1s Depends on what you can get a Bachmann one for, but you won't see much change from a hundred pounds by the time you've added decals, nameplates and so on to the basic cost of the Branchlines kit - in fact, it'll probably cost you more than a hundred. I haven't stuffed as much weight into mine as I could, but it struggles with more than three coaches. There's probably scope for getting a bit more haulage out of it, but you'll always be fighting the basic lightness of the plastic body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Chassis looks excellent. Looking forward to seeing how you get the best out of the Airfix kit! WRT the Bachmann model - I think they did incredibly well to get such good haulage from a small 4-4-0 without resorting to traction tyres, as Hornby did with the T9. Mine can handle 4 Mk1s on my not-quite flat layout. Not exactly a long rake, but not too bad either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 Thanks everyone I was lucky in that I got mine from an exhibition for the reasonable sum of £40. It did have the coupling rod nuts missing and did not have the body detailing kit, I have ordered these from Branchlines over the weekend. Branchlines gave very nice service as well I must say. I will be packing some weight into the firebox end. All the bestChris 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Hi Folks Been able to do a bit more, I have painted the chassis and wheels now, small amount of weathering to the chassis. Had to thin down the frames to the bogie a bit Will be adding the brake gear to the main chassis next then finish the painting and weathering. Hope you like and thanks for looking. All the bestChris 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hughes Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Models of 4-4-0 locos have a horrible tendency to not pull very much - too much of the weight is in the 'wrong' place, and of course with a plastic body there's not that much weight to begin with. No wonder some commercial efforts have used dodges like traction types and even Triang's 'magnedesion'! One rather more practical solution is to allow part of the weight of the tender to rest on the drawbar; carefully done this can do wonders for the haulage capacity! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted June 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2014 The real CoT is pretty sure footed and it did handle a full length train back in 1985 or 6 (not 100% sure which year) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Very nice work. When I built one of these about 8 years ago I convinced myself that there was something confusing in the instructions with regard to which hole to use for which type of wheel, so I take it from the above there is now a correction slip added with the kit?.... Cheers Barry, yes there is a correction slip in with the kit. .... In the sample that I have, the instructions say the upper holes should be used if you are representing a Bird/Bulldog/Atbara, with scale 5'8" drivers. The lower holes should be used for the 6'8" Cities and Flowers. There was no correction slip in the kit, so possibly I have an early one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted June 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2014 In the sample that I have, the instructions say the upper holes should be used if you are representing a Bird/Bulldog/Atbara, with scale 5'8" drivers. The lower holes should be used for the 6'8" Cities and Flowers. There was no correction slip in the kit, so possibly I have an early one. That's the bit that's wrong - the smaller drivers should be in the lower holes, not the larger holes. I think you'd end up in serious difficulty if you didn't spot the error, but it's sort of self-evident if you have the etchings and wheels in front of you. The OP's work is coming along nicely! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 Hi Folks Thanks for your kind comments. I have done a bit more today chassis nearly finished now, just got to get pickups added and then test and then hopefully paint. Very pleased so far, got to clean up brake gear also. Thanks for looking All the best Chris 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 That's the bit that's wrong - the smaller drivers should be in the lower holes, not the larger holes. I think you'd end up in serious difficulty if you didn't spot the error, but it's sort of self-evident if you have the etchings and wheels in front of you. In my context I don't think it would matter that much, since the plan was always to team it with the old Crownline "County-to-City" conversion kit etches, and rely less on the Airfix mouldings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I did one in P4 a few years ago as a Flower Class, mainly so I could finish it in unlined green. One error in the cab that is easily corrected and improves the appearance is the back of the cab side which extends well past the rear of the roof - evident in the photos below. An error I made was to not line up the cabside horizontal hand rail with the boiler hand rail.....oh well. If I recall correctly a new etched cabside comes with the body detailing kit and is pre-drilled for the hand rail. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 Wow thanks Jeff, That is the sort of thing I am going for was going to go for another City that lasted later, however not sure yet as initially this was just a test to see if I could build a loco but now want to finish off to as good a standard as possible, thanks for showing the piccies the loco looks great. All the best Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted June 10, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2014 And here's mine, while we're at it: The cab side sheets don't go back far enough compared to Jeff's model, and I wish I'd blackened the cranks before fixing on the coupling rods. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I did one in P4 a few years ago as a Flower Class, mainly so I could finish it in unlined green. One error in the cab that is easily corrected and improves the appearance is the back of the cab side which extends well past the rear of the roof - evident in the photos below...... Here as well.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Interesting it doesn't look as far back as mine and I thought I did mine from an official GW drawing....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted June 11, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 11, 2014 Interesting it doesn't look as far back as mine and I thought I did mine from an official GW drawing....... Yours is correct, Jeff - mine is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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