buffalo Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 ...More like a 41XX / 51XX. ...The 41XX tanks included:- 4110, 4115, 4121, 4141, 4144, 4150, 4156, 4157, 4160, 4164 and the 51XX included:- 5164, 5182, 5193, 5199. Ah, the wonders of GWR class naming. There is really no such thing as a 41XX or 51XX class. All those you list at Barry were members of the 5101 class (5101-10, 5150-99 and 4100-79), not to be confused with the 5100 (originally 3100) class (5100 and 5111-49). Defo a 61xx Do tell us how you identify the different steel used in the boiler plates of the 6100s from a photo Nick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Looks like a 61xx to me Thats what I initially thought.... but as there were no 61xx locos at Barry in1966, I then thought its a 5101 class loco of which ten listed in the posts above were at Barry in 1966 (4156, 4157, 4164 and 5182 being cut up before 1966). I will have to try and eliminate them one by one by looking at photos on the web Edited September 2, 2014 by Flamingo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Thats what I initially thought.... but as there were no 61xx locos at Barry in1966, I then thought its a 5101 class loco of which ten listed in the posts above were at Barry in 1966 (4156, 4157, 4164 and 5182 being cut up before 1966). I will have to try and eliminate them one by one by looking at photos on the web Checking out photos on the internet, it looks like it is 4141. https://www.flickr.com/photos/8755708@N07/6823915756/in/photostream/ Thanks all for your help... Edited September 2, 2014 by Flamingo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2014 Hi Nidge If so then its 6115 - the only one to find its way there see - http://www.railuk.info/steam/getscrap.php?id=111 - but as that was cut up April 65 - http://www.railuk.info/steam/getsteam.php?row_id=2898 then I suspect its a 41/51xx See http://www.railuk.info/steam/barry_search.php and the list above for the choice! Looks like you could light a fire in her and drive her off. Cheers Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I am in the process of cataloguing my friends 1960s and 70s railway slides which are all mixed up. There are around 3,000 and its turning out to be a mammoth task. I think he must have emptied all his slide boxes in a heap then threw them up in the air! Here is the first of many.. Class 47 1662 Isambard Kingdom Brunel approaching an undentified station. Can any of you experts help? Howie Edited February 21, 2015 by The Border Reiver 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I am in the process of cataloguing my friends 1960s and 70s railway slides which are all mixed up. There ar around 3,000 and its turning out to be a mammoth task. I think he must have emptied all his slide boxes in a heap then threw them up in the air! Here is the first of many.. Class 47 1662 Isambard Kingdom Brunel approaching an undentified station. Can any of you experts help? Howie ZZ057_20150206_0043_640.jpg Is that the western end of Reading station? The Fire Brigade training tower looks familiar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Seconded . Brian R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Yes, that is definitely Reading. And if you have 3000 of that period and that quality, then it is jackpot time. I think D1662 was in that early BR livery between 1969 and 1973 which narrows down the date a bit. Sorry, edited the dates, as my brain malfunctioned. Edited February 21, 2015 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Thank you for the location info Brian(s) and Jonny. Yes, that is definitely Reading. And if you have 3000 of that period and that quality, then it is jackpot time. I think D1662 was in that early BR livery between 1969 and 1973 which narrows down the date a bit. Sorry, edited the dates, as my brain malfunctioned. Jonny. just double checked and there are 3,500 slides in total consisting of 20 different slide manufacturers, of which 5 are diferent Agfa types.A good 75% of the slides are quite good quality, 20% are acceptable and the other 5% are basically too dark.There are some later Agfa ones where the slide number and month/year are printed on the slides. The early cardboard Ilford and Kodak ones also have the month/year printed on the slides (1966 era).As regards the rest I have to open each slide and note its frame numbers on the front of the slide, a very time consumning task indeed!Its just the locations I need from the undated ones, the remainder I need location and approx dates.Here is todays mystery location shot. Its of Brush Type 2 (as we used to call them) Class 31 No. 5527 in its original green livery with a Class 37 behind. The Nissen huts in the background may help with identifying the location. Date?Howie 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 ... the other 5% are basically too dark. Don't write them off just yet - I'm constantly surprised by what you can recover from dark slides and negs by tinkering with either the scanner settings or in an image editor post-scanning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Thank you for the location info Brian(s) and Jonny. Jonny. just double checked and there are 3,500 slides in total consisting of 20 different slide manufacturers, of which 5 are diferent Agfa types. A good 75% of the slides are quite good quality, 20% are acceptable and the other 5% are basically too dark. There are some later Agfa ones where the slide number and month/year are printed on the slides. The early cardboard Ilford and Kodak ones also have the month/year printed on the slides (1966 era). As regards the rest I have to open each slide and note its frame numbers on the front of the slide, a very time consumning task indeed! Its just the locations I need from the undated ones, the remainder I need location and approx dates. Here is todays mystery location shot. Its of Brush Type 2 (as we used to call them) Class 31 No. 5527 in its original green livery with a Class 37 behind. The Nissen huts in the background may help with identifying the location. Date? Howie 5527_ZZ055_20150205_0072_640.jpg No idea on location, but those aren't Nissen Huts; they're large fuel storage tanks with a low brick 'bund' around them. Given the number and size, it would appear to be a pretty big depot. The structure to the left and rear of the Brush reminds me of Gateshead, as do the flats, but I'm sure the fuel tanks there weren't that big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2015 I am in the process of cataloguing my friends 1960s and 70s railway slides which are all mixed up. There are around 3,000 and its turning out to be a mammoth task. I think he must have emptied all his slide boxes in a heap then threw them up in the air! Here is the first of many.. Class 47 1662 Isambard Kingdom Brunel approaching an undentified station. Can any of you experts help? Howie ZZ057_20150206_0043_640.jpg Reading, just coming off the Up Main Through Line onto the Up Main Platform Line (Platform 5 as it then was) at the west end of the station. State of the paintwork on the signals suggests late 1960s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The one with the class 31 also reminds me of Gateshead, but it's looking in a direction most photographers didn't. A very nice shot too, if I may say so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 A quick look on Flickr finds this shot of the fuel tanks at Gateshead https://www.flickr.com/photos/26871365@N04/7366569140/in/photolist-jwkPQc-8rBZDc-dpqJkX-pzi7Lp-e8ywER-nUTFWq-ngB79f-nzVgQ8-ng2DFD-okruFj-nSWtDC-nUYL8H-oGCfut-nWLemT-7XTSET-nUFE2e-nuLCeJ-ngEXux-o7peZ4-aKfDgT-jzLsG2-dCVv5V-fytEJk-jT7jQZ-jzPh9b-oZFnCT-8bzfvo-dxtyki-eQtpZE-eQh1L4-eQtquu-8iMZ4v-cdXAmL-ibnvh3-bX8qjL-jDG5bK-dJeruG-ah28Av-p31she-8fgXFY-jDwt6F-a9B7Tn-c9W6gL-phTt8B-jDvHSZ-jDvDWT-jDwGBP-jDxGEd-nje57w-qnuHeS cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobrien Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Almost definitely Landore, though I'm trying to work out where exactly the loco was standing; I can't remember a siding or loop on the Hamilton Street side of the triangle. As to which loco it was.. Apparently, after the end of steam traction at Landore, two 57xx Panniers were based at Swansea High St for steam heating; initially, they ran under their own power from Llanelly shed, which had taken a lot of Landore's steam engines. Later, they were kept next to the old turntable on the line that ran from Swansea High St to the docks. There is a view of one loco, 3654, with a clearly-visible number, on page 341 of 'The Red Dragon..'. As no such number is visible in your photo, then it's probably the other one, 9609. These locos apparently lasted until 1966. It may well be 9609 as I photographed this engine at Buttigeigs Scrapyard in Newport in Jan 1967. https://www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/6318094170/in/photolist- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Excellent work Rivercider. 5527 was a Gateshead loco for a while in 71/72, which would narrow down the dating process a bit, although it might have returned after moving to Immingham I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 A quick look on Flickr finds this shot of the fuel tanks at Gateshead https://www.flickr.com/photos/26871365@N04/7366569140/in/photolist-jwkPQc-8rBZDc-dpqJkX-pzi7Lp-e8ywER-nUTFWq-ngB79f-nzVgQ8-ng2DFD-okruFj-nSWtDC-nUYL8H-oGCfut-nWLemT-7XTSET-nUFE2e-nuLCeJ-ngEXux-o7peZ4-aKfDgT-jzLsG2-dCVv5V-fytEJk-jT7jQZ-jzPh9b-oZFnCT-8bzfvo-dxtyki-eQtpZE-eQh1L4-eQtquu-8iMZ4v-cdXAmL-ibnvh3-bX8qjL-jDG5bK-dJeruG-ah28Av-p31she-8fgXFY-jDwt6F-a9B7Tn-c9W6gL-phTt8B-jDvHSZ-jDvDWT-jDwGBP-jDxGEd-nje57w-qnuHeS cheers That tender was used as a 'load bank'; it had resistances in the former coal space, which would take the output of a diesel-electric loco. My recollection was that it would 'steam' heavily on cold days, so presumably it carried water to help with the heat dissipation from the resistance-banks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Hi Here is a named peak (I can't tell the difference between class 45 and 46) at Bristol, I presume in the 1970s. Can anyone help identify which loco it is and a date? I have researched the two line names peaks with a centre split headcode and have narrowed the list down to three locos (although I may be wrong): 45040 King's Shropshire Light Infantry45043 The Kings Own Royal Border Regt45104 The Royal Warwickshire Fusilier looking at photos of three other peaks, their nameplates did not look correct (here they are anyway): 46026 Leicestershire & Derbyshire Yeomanry45137 The Bedfordshire & Hertfordshire Regiment45143 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It's pre-1976 and quite early morning, judging by the shadows. Is that frost on the sleepers? Personally, I would go with The Royal Warwickshire Fusilier. The coach behind the loco appears to be a composite sleeper. What service was 1V56? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It's pre-1976 and quite early morning, judging by the shadows. Is that frost on the sleepers? Personally, I would go with The Royal Warwickshire Fusilier. The coach behind the loco appears to be a composite sleeper. What service was 1V56? A 1976/77 WR WTT (section PD) shows 1V56 as the 23.59 Glasgow Central - Bristol Temple Meads sleeper calling Bristol Parkway 08.32 - 08.34 cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) . Edited October 3, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Oh, ok. Thanks. I was really only looking at nameplate. There is a lot of wordage there. But at least that narrows it down rather. It could be 45043 - http://dieselimagegallery.com/gallery/45Names/45oo45/45043-2-S.jpg the spacing of the words does look similar. Edited April 25, 2015 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted April 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Don't forget that most of the centre-box Peaks were originally fitted with the split variety, only getting the single panel type when the original one rusted or there was nose damage. Edited April 25, 2015 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted April 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Plated boiler grille, no triangular grille, split centre headcode, named on two lines, steam heat, means you are looking at either 45040 or 45043. I too think it is 45040, from the nameplate letter spacing on the first line. https://www.flickr.com/photos/96859208@N07/9342964998/ Edited April 25, 2015 by stovepipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) I bought this slide on Ebay, along with others, some time ago. Judging by the quality, I was convinced that it must be a commercial copy from Colour-Rail or equivalent. However, the slide mount has no annotation, copyright, or any other markings on except for the number 7025. Not only that but the transparency seems to be encased between two very thin slivers of glass. I have searched on the Colour-Rail site and cannot find a similar view; nor is this image in any of the colour album style books that I have in my collection, so I have no clues at to who the photographer was. The Ebay seller said it was part of a collection he acquired in a house clearance sale, so that provided me with no further evidence. However, judging by the accumulated dust on the slide mounts, they must have been stored untouched for quite a long time. Can any RMweb contributors shed any more light on this picture? I think it might be the western approach to Sonning Cutting, but am no expert on ex-GWR territory. Edited; for poor spelling. Edited May 2, 2015 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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