emt_911 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Just found the information on third rail electrification. Woking to Winchester was electrified as far as Alton in 1937 but didn't get any further. http://www.emus.co.uk/zone/southern/southern3.htm Looks like Rule 1 will be invoked. Duncan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 Right. Here we go again. Modified track plan with details added. I've removed the church as it would be at the front of the layout and the size would obstruct the view. As things develop during building I may find somewhere suitable for it. At the same time, I will be identifying where to place the village blacksmith. Full Layout Military Section Village Section Colour Code Dark Yellow - Fence Dark Green - Engine Shed Dark Blue - Water Tower Black - Coal Yellow - Tank Loading Ramp Pink - Bridge Brown - Cottages (These aren't individual cottages but terraces of 3 or 4) Light Purple - Station Managers House Purple - Station and Footbridge Light Blue - Goods Shed Red - Village Garage converted into Fire Station Blue-Grey - Pub / Hotel Dark Grey - Road Light Grey - Workshop Orange - Signal Box Thoughts / suggestions / ideas welcome Duncan 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Morning Duncan, Love the logical way you're developing the plan. You mentioned sleeper spacing, if you go for Peco code75 (which I probably will purely on financial grounds!), Ray ('Tender') has a good and easy way of adjusting the spacing on his 'Camel Quay' thread. Page1, Post #3, and it has a pretty good way of fixing and ballasting also - well worth a look! Keep up the good work, I'm learning like you as you progress! Kind regards, Jock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Morning Duncan, Love the logical way you're developing the plan. You mentioned sleeper spacing, if you go for Peco code75 (which I probably will purely on financial grounds!), Ray ('Tender') has a good and easy way of adjusting the spacing on his 'Camel Quay' thread. Page1, Post #3, and it has a pretty good way of fixing and ballasting also - well worth a look! Keep up the good work, I'm learning like you as you progress! Kind regards, Jock. Morning Jock Thanks for that. I've been watching 'Camel Quay' for quite a while now but had forgotten about how Ray did the sleeper spacing. I need to go back and have another look. As far as ballasting goes, my method isn't much different but I will be having another look around the forum before that starts. Duncan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 have you managed to source any of the 'people' yet. We always had a plan to do a Dads Army cameo, will love to see how this moves forward. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Afternoon Jaz Not sourced any people yet as I'm only in the planning stage. But, there seems to be a lot to choose from to give a good range of poses. There may be room for a 'Dad's Army' style cameo. Duncan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdare Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi Duncan I have kept having a quick look at this until I had more time to post. I like the concept you have of setting it during the war years, I love those kinds of layout as there is plenty of scope for scenic details and little cameos, I really am hoping that we shall see a bomb damaged building at some as they are a challenge to get right, but once completed must give a great sense of achievement if it looks authentic. I wish you the best of luck if you do go for that and I will watch with interest. I can't help with track layouts as I'm hopeless with that which is why I model prototype. I remember some time ago meeting the couple who exhibited Q dump which was a WW1 layout which fascinated me, a great bit of work. I look forward to seeing this up and running. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Duncan, if you check out the first post in Kingsley you will see more info on the Alton Line. Nice track planning, so bloomin organized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Hi Duncan I have kept having a quick look at this until I had more time to post. I like the concept you have of setting it during the war years, I love those kinds of layout as there is plenty of scope for scenic details and little cameos, I really am hoping that we shall see a bomb damaged building at some as they are a challenge to get right, but once completed must give a great sense of achievement if it looks authentic. I wish you the best of luck if you do go for that and I will watch with interest. I can't help with track layouts as I'm hopeless with that which is why I model prototype. I remember some time ago meeting the couple who exhibited Q dump which was a WW1 layout which fascinated me, a great bit of work. I look forward to seeing this up and running. Jim Thanks Jim It's still in the planning stage at the moment, but, I think I'm going to build a cottage first and then have my first attempt at the bomb damaged building. This will be before I even build the baseboards as it may take several attempts. I hope I don't disappoint. Duncan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Share Posted October 11, 2014 Duncan, if you check out the first post in Kingsley you will see more info on the Alton Line. Nice track planning, so bloomin organized. Andy I'd forgotten about all the information at the start of Kingsley. Organised. I must be doing something wrong. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Morning everyone A question. Can anyone point me in the direction of somewhere that shows and describes methods for creating derelict / bomb damaged buildings? I've got a good idea of how I'm going to do the floors and roofs but unsure about the walls. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 oooh hang on I have a picture from a layout you might like....... and I would recommend an Army Modelling site.....only make sure you come back here after....they are addictive........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Jaz I've been having a look around some of the military modelling sites (and yes they are addictive) but the ones I've found so far use kits of damaged buildings. If you can provide a link it will be greatly appreciated. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2014 Hi Duncan It is worth remembering that many bombed buildings would be reduced to rubble as soon as possible just to make them safe from falling on people. A recently bombed building would have things like the gas and water mains leaking so the road would be closed and dug up while these were repaired and/or disconceted. The rest of the street would not be able to heat food up so the Food Flying Squad http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/76/76BD001%20Food%20Flying%20Squad%20Bedford%20OX%2030cwt%20Van.html or WRVS or YMCA canteen vans would be parked near by. Auxillary fire service and one of the many volunteer ambulance services could also be present. The local bobby would be keeping his eye out for any looters. Don't forget a Sally Army or NAFFI van for the squaddies. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Clive Some good thoughts there. Just wondering how quick the demolition would happen in remote(ish) rural areas. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2014 Clive Some good thoughts there. Just wondering how quick the demolition would happen in remote(ish) rural areas. Duncan Hi Duncan Quite quickly, the local builder would do it and he would be desperate for materials. These would be part of the payment for doing the job. Have you seen Oxford are going to do a Diamond T tank transporter and a Bedford QL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Earl's court. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 this might be of interest, it's not the same but the technique.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z743HsvLn1E#t=176 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2014 I have forgotten I drew these for the wargame site I belong to. http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/ShelledandBombedOutBuilding1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 this might be of interest, it's not the same but the technique.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=z743HsvLn1E#t=176 Jaz Taken a while to reply as I've been watching various videos. They're more addictive than the military modelling sites. I've now got quite a few ideas that I can try. Thanks for the link. Duncan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 I have forgotten I drew these for the wargame site I belong to. http://www.juniorgeneral.org/index.php/figure/view/ShelledandBombedOutBuilding1 Thanks Clive. They look really good. Even more ideas to try. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Earl's court. Hahaaah Jaz, think you must have gone to the same Show as George and I, HAHAHA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Earl's court. Little bit too urban I think Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Evening Duncan, Have you seen 'KH1 Up the line 1918'. Although it is 7mm NG, the blogs in particular contain many pics of war damaged buildings that may give you ideas - hope this helps, just type KH1 in the search box! Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I believe Airfix do some kits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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