Multiple identity account Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 At 0:32 what is that loco in the background? A highly modified 0F Pug?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted May 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2015 Intrigued I grabbed a screenshot, sharpened it, increased contrast and gamma. It looks to a be a Pug with something I couldn't determine behind it. I doubt it heralds anything interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 At 0:32 what is that loco in the background? A highly modified 0F Pug?? Perhaps Hornby are looking into using the Pug as a basis for a Y7? Something a bit less Tobylike..... Back to matters in hand, WHAT a pretty engine the J50 is! Hornby are coming along nicely with this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted June 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2015 "WHAT a pretty engine the J50 is!" Well, each to their own ....... and beauty is in the eye of the beholder! As fas as I am concerned, the J50 is one of the ugliest locomotives ever made! Entirely utilitarian, not a graceful line anywhere! I cannot fathom how Gresley designed such graceful and elegant locomotives as the A3 and A4, and the likes of the O2, and yet also was responsible for the J50! For a lovely 0-6-0T, Hornby could have chosen the J69 to model - that really is a pretty engine! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) "WHAT a pretty engine the J50 is!" Well, each to their own ....... and beauty is in the eye of the beholder! As fas as I am concerned, the J50 is one of the ugliest locomotives ever made! Entirely utilitarian, not a graceful line anywhere! I cannot fathom how Gresley designed such graceful and elegant locomotives as the A3 and A4, and the likes of the O2, and yet also was responsible for the J50! For a lovely 0-6-0T, Hornby could have chosen the J69 to model - that really is a pretty engine! John Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder, personally like many others I like this particular loco, It's been a long time in coming considering the only other representation was a very poor Lima effort. A good choice on Hornby's part I think which will sell very well !!! Edited June 2, 2015 by Black 5 Bear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) Interesting shot of the "kit" but where are the connecting rods? Edited June 2, 2015 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 "WHAT a pretty engine the J50 is!" Well, each to their own ....... and beauty is in the eye of the beholder! As fas as I am concerned, the J50 is one of the ugliest locomotives ever made! Entirely utilitarian, not a graceful line anywhere! I cannot fathom how Gresley designed such graceful and elegant locomotives as the A3 and A4, and the likes of the O2, and yet also was responsible for the J50! For a lovely 0-6-0T, Hornby could have chosen the J69 to model - that really is a pretty engine! John Beauty definitely in the eye of the beholder, but the J50 could be seen further afield across the LNER than the J69 and also fits in with the other Gresley designed engines Hornby have manufactured thus far. It was a brilliant choice and one I'd personally been emailing them about for years. Their next move is to make a J6 and suddenly they'll be selling to even greater numbers of the LNER modelling community. Many people would call the A4 ugly too (I disagree with that view) but each to their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 J50 uglier than the J69? Which version of the J69? Sure the two Liverpool Street pilots WERE pretty, but when you look at the pictures in the Yeadon guide there are some very poorly proportioned variants, some of which WERE downright ugly. Gresley needed a more powerful loco than the J52 saddletanks. The long tanks were a direct result of needing to run a while between cluttering up water cranes, and the downwards slope at the front was so the driver had a decent view ahead. Similarly the hopper variants were to give the driver a decent view running bunker first- which the average shunting tank spent half of its running time doing- turntables were for more important engines. Some J50s did get into the North Eastern Region, lasting longer than the Jinties transferred into the real North East. The ones at Darlington didn't stay long, although powerful enough the shorter wheelbase of the J94 was more suitable for local work. All the very best Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilks Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 It looks a great model. Note that the lower rear lamp irons look like part of the body moulding - the top lamp iron is a separate fitting. But what is the correct number of lamp irons - 4, 5 or 6!! Will the injector and pipe work be added under the footplate - some had them infront of the cab steps others under the bunker. What a nightmare it is for model making company to get it right - take a look at the relevant Green book and Yeadons for the subtle variations. The cab roof profile varied between batches!! It will be the best ready to run J50 on the market and I will be buying at least one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7029cluncastle Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 While the J50 isn't for me, i wonder hw easy it would be to get a chassis from one to put under the J52....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 However easy it is, not the right choice! Take a Bachmann 57xx, discard mis-shapen body work, and there you have a mechanism with the right wheelbase and wheel diameter for a J52. Other mods to taste to further de-Swindonise... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7029cluncastle Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Cheers for that! I'm not very good with all these wheel diameters and wheelbase lengths etc! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted August 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2015 Today's Engine Shed has photographs of decorated samples of the 3 versions of the J50 that are due later this year, at http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/5756/#.VdcNTvgfo1A.twitter These do look superb models. John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2015 Stunning looking models. Well done Hornby. Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hamlin Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Can't wait to get my hands on one after seeing these photo's I was just the same with J15! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilks Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 These new Hornby models look excellent with lots of research gone into bunker styles, cab shape, buffers, fluted or plain rods etc.. Looking through the relevant Yeadon's Register Vol46 part B: 635 was obviously liked by Eastfield shed as it stayed there all of its life from 1926 to 1960. 68971 roamed a bit more. After a year at Peterborough New England (34E) in 1961 it went to Doncaster in 1962 and then went back into the works as a works shunter No15. Prior to being at Peterborough it was at Hornsey (34B) from 1952 - just need to change the Hornby shed plate. 68987 was from October 1952 a Hornsey (34B) engine until it went to Doncaster in July 1961. The Hornby model carries the 34D shed plate - which is Hitchin. Unfortunately none were shedded at Hitchin. Still a lovely model worth buying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Hornby did have a Plain J50, designed to the BR Late Crest spec, on display in a Cabinet at The Great Dorset Steam Fair last weekend: Regards,Matt Edited September 8, 2015 by TheSoutherner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks for that Southerner. Any other models you managed to get photos of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Thanks for that Southerner. Any other models you managed to get photos of? You're welcome. Two as it happens; a Sickly Green Hall class, and an Adams Radial. I will confess, I could see a King Class in the display cabinet...shoved at the back behind a Crosti 9F, where I couldn't get a photo... Apologies about the poor light, but their stand was in a poorly lit tent. Adams Radial: Hall Class: Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2015 Shame the king was hiding. Thanks mate. The Radial is looking good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.J Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 a Sickly Green Hall class, Apologies about the poor light, but their stand was in a poorly lit tent. Hall Class: S2080033 - 1.jpg Regards, Matt The answer lies in your post.....Cannot judge a model's colour in a room that is lit badly. Especially that shade of green too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Park Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 There is a photo of a J50/4 at Victoria Station Eastern Side in Volume 2 of Noodle Books Modelling the Southern Vol 2. It is coupled to three wagons. The author does not know what working it was undertaking but it does confirm this variant did work south of the river. Must get my order in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The J50s were put on freight transfer between ER and SR in the early 1950s, as the older J52 class previously allocated to this work was run down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenway Park Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Victoria Station was not a normal destination for cross London freight traffic. The GWR goods depot at South Lambeth was the nearest. There were several coal depots in South London that were owned by the Midland or LNWR but I am not sure there were any GNR or GER depots in this area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted September 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2015 Victoria Station was not a normal destination for cross London freight traffic. The GWR goods depot at South Lambeth was the nearest. There were several coal depots in South London that were owned by the Midland or LNWR but I am not sure there were any GNR or GER depots in this area. J50s ran regular turns to Feltham via Gospel Oak and to Hither Green via the Widened Lines. They also turned up at Norwood Junction having travelled via Kew, the West London Line or the Widened Lines. So quite a lot of possibilities south of the river. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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