rembrow Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 So why did they tell me this morning they were due in January? This is odd It could be they've flown some samples from the production run in for the show. Their website still shows the early BR and LNER versions as late November releases with late BR on 8th December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 26, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2015 Probably because they wanna try and sell some for themselves. Or they might just be examples for running on their layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2015 So why did they tell me this morning they were due in January? This is odd I would surmise that they are the final approval samples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted November 26, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Or they might just be examples for running on their layout? I think that might be it - we'll see. Shame I'm missing the show... Edited November 26, 2015 by Derails Models Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 A chunky beast which packs a lot of weight into the body! Available imminently. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Sadly there were none available to buy at Warley. Looks mighty though ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2015 Those front windows look a bit big, and close to the top of the roof? Not sure if there were many variances in cab design but I'm basing it on the following picture http://www.jimmcgeown.com/Loco%20Kit%20Pages/J50%20Class%20LNER.html which I'm hoping to build at some point. Maybe as there's no representation of an opening mechanism and brass surrounding? Photos of the prototype as opposed to the kit that you have linked to suggest that Hornby have got it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 A better set of images is on the LNER forum http://d240vprofozpi.cloudfront.net/locos/J/j50_2.jpg http://d240vprofozpi.cloudfront.net/locos/J/j50_3.jpg http://d240vprofozpi.cloudfront.net/locos/J/j50_4.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Those front windows look a bit big, and close to the top of the roof? Not sure if there were many variances in cab design but I'm basing it on the following picture http://www.jimmcgeown.com/Loco%20Kit%20Pages/J50%20Class%20LNER.html which I'm hoping to build at some point. Maybe as there's no representation of an opening mechanism and brass surrounding? Never model other people's models - always check the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 . Not being able to find a "top view" of a real J50, is the way the side tank/boiler cladding aft of the smoke box meld/blend together rather than being a straight line meeting a curved surface right ? Surely the boiler cladding would be continued round ????? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted November 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2015 . Not being able to find a "top view" of a real J50, is the way the side tank/boiler cladding aft of the smoke box meld/blend together rather than being a straight line meeting a curved surface right ? Surely the boiler cladding would be continued round ????? . Seems not - from what I can make out, in several photos, there were curved flush cover plates that spanned the tank / boiler interface. Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeps Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Certainly an improvement on the Lima model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Seems not - from what I can make out, in several photos, there were curved flush cover plates that spanned the tank / boiler interface... There was considerable correspondence about these boiler to tank cover plates, probably about the early 70s in RM, and between several poor photos and the evidence of a chap who had worked on an erecting team at the Crimpsall, this was confirmed. Certainly every clear picture I have seen shows a very clean transition from the plane of the tank top. to the radius of the cladding/smokebox shell. It all seems rather bizarre, putting so much effort into largely out of sight finish, when the tanks would have to be regularly lifted off and replaced for routine firebox water space and stay inspections. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benachie Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Am I right in thinking that some J50s had the smokebox saddle in line with the front of the tanks as in the Hornby model while some had the saddle recessed back by a few inches? Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Certainly an improvement on the Lima model Agreed. Here's one about to follow me into retirement. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilks Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 . Not being able to find a "top view" of a real J50, is the way the side tank/boiler cladding aft of the smoke box meld/blend together rather than being a straight line meeting a curved surface right ? Surely the boiler cladding would be continued round ????? . The best photo which shows the cladding between the boiler and the tanks is on page 38 of Great Northern Engine sheds vol3. Griffiths and Hooper, Book Law/Railbus. The photo is Bradford Bowling Street (Hammerton Street) shed without the roof circa 1948. There are over 30 loco's on shed and all bar one/two appears to be either a J50 (12+), and N1 or a J6 - pure GNR heaven. Cab roof profiles These varied between the sub classes. To fit the Widened Lines (London) loading gauge the roof height was reduced making it look like the cab windows were closer to the roof line. The cab shape and large cab windows look right to me and are characteristic feature which Hornby have caught well. Valve chest covers 30 engines rebuilt from J51s to J50s retained a flush valve chest cover below the smokebox between the front sandboxes. The valve chests area on those built as J50 were recessed. Looking forward to receiving the Hornby model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2015 . Not being able to find a "top view" of a real J50, is the way the side tank/boiler cladding aft of the smoke box meld/blend together rather than being a straight line meeting a curved surface right ? Surely the boiler cladding would be continued round ????? . Post 508 of this thread has a photo of 68249 in which you can discern the meld from smokenbox to side tank. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69274-dave-f-more-photos-added-21-june-from-1947-to-1955ish/page-21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWesternFan220 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Hornby's website says the J50s are now due for release in January 2016. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 That's gone from due last Saturday, through due on Friday, to due end of January 2016 in the space of 5 days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 That's gone from due last Saturday, through due on Friday, to due end of January 2016 in the space of 5 days Somalian Pirates again....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR Dave Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Maybe the captain forgot his sandwiches so went back to China to get them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If the shipment didn't contain J50s one wonders what it did contain.It seems very strange Hornby didn't update the due date sooner on their website, one can only assume they were surprised also by the non arrival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Now in http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/catalogsearch/result/?q=j50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2015 Thank you,but I will not be able to get one until after Christmas. Regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hamlin Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Now in http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/catalogsearch/result/?q=j50 Fantastic news! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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